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Partner cheating again, caught out how to handle HELP

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Lolo2000 · 02/02/2025 09:32

Backstory, I’ve been with partner 6 years we have a 4 year old DS. He cheated on me 7 months into our relationship (before son was here) I took him back he swore he wouldn’t do it again.
Relationship was ok, we had our moments but he joined a new firm in December 2022 and became a different person.

In June last year, I found out he was cheating on me again, his mum has a air bnb and he was taking her back there on days/nights it wasn’t booked, I caught him in the act - was extremely painful, it was going on since Feb last year and ended in July.

Like the fool I am, I took him back again he spent 3 months back in the family home with me promising me he wouldn’t do it again.
Well I found out last night he is, in November he started acting the exact same way being shady, not answering my calls - so I called time on the relationship in December and asked him to move back to his mums home (her actual home) until I figured things out. He swore there was no girl, all in my head blah blah.

I said he didn’t want to loose his family/me and will do anything so I asked him to prove it, he hasn’t done anything.
Its all come to a head now, he’s been in his mums home since December visiting his son at mine and taking him to his mums EOS, still telling me he loves me, we were still sleeping together.

We had a arguement 2 weeks ago in which he did tell me there was someone else and flashes a picture of him and her on his phone, he told me that they met in October and he has feelings for her, he then backtracked and said he said all that to make me angry because of the things I had said (I said nothing of a another man) this obviously left me very confused.

He came to my home yesterday as our son was sick and to give me money, I should mention his phone is broken. He arrived at 1.00 and said he would need to leave at 2.30 because he was meeting his dad at 3.30 - so I said ok, again told me he wasn’t lying and he wants to make things work and to take it slow.

As his phone was broken he asked to use my work phone to call his dad to say he was going to be late, I gave him the phone and he went outside to make the call. He deleted the number from my call log.
This didn’t sit right with me as he knows I’ve got his dads number.
anyway he left at 3.30 (after sleeping together) and told me he would call me later and he was getting his phone fixed.

I never heard from him, and I had this feeling he was lying. As he used my work phone and I have access to business vodaphone portal, I logged in and saw in the “unbilled usage” the number he called and it wasn’t his dads.
I put the number in what’s app and it looks like the girl who he flashed a picture of - so he obviously went to meet her, and more than likely either at his mums air bnb or her home. I’m heartbroken, the old me would have called or messaged me but I just don’t see the point, I’d be painted out as the “crazy ex” when I’m not.

Please help me on how to deal with all this - he manipulates me/gaslights me and I don’t know what the truth is anymore.
Help!

OP posts:
Lolo2000 · 02/02/2025 10:19

@DeepFatFried yes, that’s what he did, I’m a fool ain’t I.

I know there’s therapy sessions at my work, I’ve already looked into them, I know I’m going to need it. I don’t see how I’ll ever trust another person again.
my self esteem is shattered, I feel worthless.
if I attempted to move on, he keeps saying to me “your mine” and “I ain’t going to allow that to happen”
I honestly never want to see this man again. I don’t know who is he anymore

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2chocolateoranges · 02/02/2025 10:19

raise your bar!
Stop sleeping with him!

he is just using you for sex.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 02/02/2025 10:19

@Lolo2000 is “if you sleep with anyone else, I will get you” a threat?

If so, I suggest reporting it to 101 and getting it logged, just in case. Also continue with CMS and stick to third party communication wherever possible. Good luck!

Lolo2000 · 02/02/2025 10:21

@dror I’m humiliated enough, I don’t need to do myself anymore damage.
the last one he cheated on with me told me he spoke really negative about me and told her he was only with me because of our son. That was probably the truth, again he denied saying that

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remaininghopeful23 · 02/02/2025 10:25

It sounds like you're being far too kind to him when making arrangements for your child. If he doesn't agree to what you've stipulated then he doesn't see your child. Won't use the app, doesn't know how to use email, doesn't want a 3rd party... all excuses to continue trying to control you!! I would personally not give another option. Do it the way YOU want that ensures minimal communication.

I wouldn't message the OW it will do nothing to serve you. Let them believe it doesn't phase you. Hold your head up high.

MissMoneyFairy · 02/02/2025 10:26

Don't message her, you are both the ow, show them you don't care, concentrate on yourself and your son. If he threatens you go to the police, apply to the courts for cms, let him apply for visitation, does he have pr at all. Your friends and family will love and support you, let this creep ruin his own life.

Lolo2000 · 02/02/2025 10:26

@Bumblebeestiltskin the way he said it, I definitely took it as a threat. He’s not stupid enough to put it in a text message. Once he said it and I said I’m going to report him to the police he begged me not to, he said I would fuck up a good thing for him, I now know what he meant.
I have no duty or loyalty to him no more, so I will do the above.

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Dweetfidilove · 02/02/2025 10:27

You have taught this 'man' that it's okay to disrespect you and you'll reward him for it.
You have to stand up for yourself or he'll continue walking over you.

Engage the therapy at work. Block him so he can spend some time figuring out emails and start rebuilding your self-esteem.
And follow through with the CMS application.

tribpot · 02/02/2025 10:28

Should I message the OW?

What on earth for? You've already separated from a serial cheater.

It sounds as if you are allowing contact with your DS only to take place at your house (and then he spends some of that time shagging you? Classy). I assume this is because he is too incompetent/doesn't have anywhere else to go.

A simple fix to both issues would be to have a third party with you when contact happens. I don't think you'll see him for dust if that keeps happening.

ICanTellYouMissMe · 02/02/2025 10:29

He's coming round to fuck you in the afternoon before going back to his lovely single life.

OP, what in the name of fuck are you doing?!

If one of your mates was putting up with this, what advice would you give them!

Lolo2000 · 02/02/2025 10:36

@tribpot he collects our son from train station/halfway point on a Saturday eow and the drops him back home on a Sunday early evening. He’s not slept at my home since late November when I caught on to him. He collects our son from nursery 2 nights a month which allows me to go to the gym after work. He’s suggested doing “family days” which I said no to.

Going forwards I’m going to meet him at the train station with my brother in tow

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Lolo2000 · 02/02/2025 10:37

@remaininghopeful23 thats exactly what my friend said, he’s trying to control me and have me “there” just in case things go to pot with her.
I know he’s using me, asks me to borrow him money and do favours (like we are in a relationship) I haven’t done so I don’t have money to give him and I don’t want to do anything for him.

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tribpot · 02/02/2025 10:42

he collects our son from train station/halfway point on a Saturday eow and the drops him back home on a Sunday early evening.

So is that one time he came to your house the only time you've slept with him since he moved out? Or does it happen on a Sunday evening? It sounds like you would be better having your brother at your house on a Sunday evening.

I know he’s using me, asks me to borrow him money and do favours (like we are in a relationship)

Well done for not falling for this, but it will really be better for you to switch to the parenting app and stick to it. You need absolutely minimal contact with him whilst you break this curse!

The OW has your phone number now, btw. I would block hers before she has a chance to use it.

MissMoneyFairy · 02/02/2025 10:47

He threatened you then begged you not to call the police, hes got no money, he uses his mummy's house to shag his girlie's, what an absolute charmer, he's completely spineless. You sound like you're doing all the right things in getting this idiot out of your life, your brother sounds great.

Lolo2000 · 02/02/2025 10:52

@tribpot we never stopped sleeping together (stupid I know) I have texts from him from October onwards telling me he loves me and wants to make it work and not to move on from him and we should take it slow, he doesn’t want to loose me or his family, he’ll be lost without me and there’s no girl. He even sat here yesterday telling me he’s not lying if he didn’t want to be with me he would say, again he was lying.
He must have asked her, or felt that he couldn’t so that’s why he asked me, he said he wouldn’t be able to get to work without this money and then wouldn’t be able to pay for his son - he try’s to guilt trip me.
I’m pretty sure he 141 from my number and pretty sure she thinks we spilt way before December, he’s probably told her “I’m crazy”

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Fastingandhungry · 02/02/2025 10:55

You need to take responsibility for your own happiness here.

If you lean on your friends it can also be infuriating for them and I have walked from a friendship like this because there wasn’t anything left for me to say.

Your child is ill, he comes round and you end up sleeping together, seriously, come on, you deserve better, you need to do something like a healthy relationship course.

peachystormy · 02/02/2025 10:55

Honestly your being a mug. And still sleeping together uugh. Dump him and move on

Diarygirlqueen · 02/02/2025 11:04

Please, please start getting your act together! You deserve so much better than this.

I hope you get the counselling and start working on your self esteem. Why do you think so little of yourself? You are raising your son mostly by yourself, working, keeping a home...you're doing great without him. GREYROCK him.
Good luck x

Turkeyneck101 · 02/02/2025 11:05

Stop equating having sex with love. He is manipulating you and using you. This is not love. It is cruel and abusive. There is only one person who can stop this and it is you.

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BitOutOfPractice · 02/02/2025 11:09

You do know the truth op. And you know what to do.

I’m not going to ask where your DS was when you were having sex on a Saturday afternoon with this loser…

Mummaonherown · 02/02/2025 11:13

I feel for you, my ex was similar lying over and over again until I caught him out.
My self esteem was shot to pieces, had no confidence whatsoever I kept alot of what had happened to myself so I was in a real lonely place.
Get the counselling at work, good job on CMS don't let him try and talk you out of it.
I agree with others, grey rock him now, if he collects your son from the station just hand your son over and walk away, the same for collection unless he comes to the home then I suggest having someone there.
It will take time and it will be painful but you'll get there - you've got this x

Imbusytodaysorry · 02/02/2025 11:40

@Lolo2000 you through him out for cheating gave him all the time and free reign he wanted and kept sleeping with him . Why???

I agree find your anger . He’s a serial
cheat . Lies , messes you around has no respect . He doesn’t make you happy
Ask yourself what
you love about him or the non relationship ?!

Tell him he now takes your dc at the weekend from 5pm Friday to 5pm Sunday (whatever works) he doesn’t get in your home again and he buys all the stuff he needs for the child for his mums house .
Do you know his income so you know if he is paying you the correct amount . Tell
him this goes in your bank as a standing order not coming to your house or you will get the child
maintenance to deal with him.

End this now . Set boundaries and don’t budge from them .

NiftyKoala · 02/02/2025 11:52

How much more cheating does he have to do? How much more time of your life does he get to waste. Choose you.

Dollychopsporkchops · 02/02/2025 12:02

@Lolo2000 what advice do you want? Will you take the advice or do you want to vent?

I ask because the writing has been on the wall time and time again and you’ve not looked at the signs or taken them into consideration.

He doesn’t want you but he doesn’t want to feel like he can’t have you as an option. He will never be faithful to you and he will always seek other women.

Stop sleeping with him. Keep the relationship entirely focused on your child and heal. Stay away from him, all he knows how to do is lie and cheat

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