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Astute guy or missing out on love

17 replies

Huskyjohn · 21/01/2025 16:19

Me, male (59) has been dating partner, female (40) for 5 years, we have both gone through divorces. It's been a rocky 5 years, we love each other and have faced a few difficulties with acceptance from my grown up children.
She moved in with me into my family home after 18 months of dating. I was living with my teenage son, and this quickly became a dysfunctional and toxic setup. Eventually after 12-15 turbulent months my girlfriend moved out and my son moved in with his mum and brother.
We continued dating, but her desire for independence and some resentment about her moving out meant she was pulling away from me. I tried hard to win her back and over time I realised she was moving further away and I didn't feel she valued me and at times i felt used. Remember I do earn a lot more than her and I am generous.

I then decided the relationship was failing and really felt I was being used so I decided to end it.
This was a shock to her, but we remained close even when we started dating. We then both dated, her unsuccessfully (creepy guys) but me more successfully and i dated another girl and started to move on. It turned out to be a pleasent but ultimately summer romance for me but we remained friends. My ex was away for the summer and when she returned she begged me to get back together, she seemed genuinely to be wanting to be back with me. In the summer I had tried to move on, so initially I was cold to her, she begged more and eventually I said let's try again. I really felt we had found something we had lost, but I wanted to be sure I was getting the girl I fell in love with and not the one I felt didn't value me and used me.

Over autumn it was good, we were connecting. Then I mentioned i wanted to sell the family home and buy my own place. She felt that I was choosing independence over her, I said our relationship wasn't ready for moving in together with things to resolve. She was very upset and decided we had no future together, I genuinely believed there would be issues moving in together and moving out of my old family home was best. She went away for Christmas and I thought about it.

After Christmas I then decided I really want her in my life and said let's move in together and I wrote down some ideas on how we could solve some of the previous issues and disagreements.

She thought about my suggestions, I have a much bigger pot of house and pension, and she asked me what it would mean about our assets. I said we buy something together, split based on what we bring. If it works, we get married and join assets together.

She said she wants everything in joint names up front. And that's really important to her. In my opinion it's only an issue if you think we are going to break up.

I said I would think about it, but my gut reaction is No! Although we are together now, she will eventually leave and I lose a woman i love.

Am I being too untrusting or am i an astute guy?

OP posts:
SilenceInside · 21/01/2025 16:22

It's not about being untrusting or being astute. You have doubts about the relationship and you think she's somewhat of a gold digger. That's your underlying reaction to this. You think there's a more than 50/50 chance that you will split up. So, it doesn't seem sensible to move in together or continue the relationship imo.

gannett · 21/01/2025 16:26

eventually I said let's try again

You're not astute enough

TwistedWonder · 21/01/2025 16:30

You’re 20 years her senior
You earn significantly higher than her
You've got far more assets
You've got a lot more to lose than her
You have adult children who could lose their inheritance if you get married

She does appear to be after what she can get imo - stand by your gut feeling and DO NOT get married

thistimelastweek · 21/01/2025 16:33

I would protect my assets.
If this were a deal-breaker for her, so be it.

CarliLove35 · 21/01/2025 16:47

Move on from her and find someone else.
This isn't love, you don't sound happy and fulfilled at all, you sound fed up.

SnailFail · 21/01/2025 16:51

Would you be happy to be in a relationship with a 78 year old right now? Because that's what you're asking of her if this relationship went long term. Grim.

That aside, it's obviously a disaster for plenty of reasons.

Relationships 101... look for someone in your age bracket with a similar lifestyle and outlook on life.

WhatTheKey · 21/01/2025 16:58

Why do you want to live with someone you think is with you for your money?

Ecstaticmotion · 21/01/2025 17:01

Stop calling adult women girls.

NeedsMustNet · 21/01/2025 17:05

Gold digger is not a word I’d use lightly and I don’t think I yet see / use it here. There are a lot of women who start conversations here after landing up in extreme hot water 20 years down the line when they haven’t had these big conversations up front, so well done for doing this.

Acceptance issues from children are really difficult to bridge. I have to give her credit for staying the course. Many people - male / female - would have fled for good.

What did she do that made you feel used? And has she stopped doing that?

Arlanymor · 21/01/2025 17:17

The fact that you were trying hard to win her back and then she was begging you… doesn’t that tell you that it’s not the right relationship for either of you? It shouldn’t be that difficult, it shouldn’t be a situation where one person is pleading with another to resume the relationship - that’s just wrong.

I find it baffling that she can object to you selling the family home and buying another place, that makes no sense. Then if you buy another she can either decide to bug with you or not. If she buys with you the she is jointly listed but only on the grounds of what she has contributed. You have to protect your assets for your children after all and if she doesn’t understand that then truly she’s not the one for you. Sounds like a horrible 15 months, not sure why either of you would want to go back to that - particularly sad that your son felt the need to move out of his own home. Have you reconciled that situation with him now?

Orangesinthebag · 21/01/2025 17:26

Remember I do earn a lot more than her and I am generous.

This line gives me the creeps somehow. What are you trying to say here? That she shouldn't have been "pulling away" from you because you earn more money than her?
The whole situation sounds odd and a like it has disaster written all over it. If your son didn't feel happy before he isn't going to feel happy if you marry her and his inheritance is threatened by a woman nearly 20 years younger than his dad.
Unless you have mended the relationship with your son I would concentrate on that and stop faffing around with a woman so much younger than you who you obviously view as after you for your money and seem to actually want to be after you for that reason.

LoveSandbanks · 21/01/2025 17:28

I’m sure this is the third time I’ve seen this posted but worded differently 🙄

Seaoftroubles · 21/01/2025 17:31

You are almost 20 years older than her which could well cause problems long term, especially as she and your son didn't get on previously. Also you don't trust her and we can't tell what her motives are, she might be a gold digger, she might not, only time would tell. The fact you aren't sure of her suggests you should step away.Things have been pretty rocky so far between you so its unlikely that. anything will change.

Wisterical · 21/01/2025 17:32

At 59 you are way to old to be dating girls.

Mauro711 · 21/01/2025 17:53

Ecstaticmotion · 21/01/2025 17:01

Stop calling adult women girls.

I agree but I guess we don't know the age of the other girl he dated, she could have been 16 for all we know. OP seems to enjoy being the much older, richer and generous type.

AgnesX · 21/01/2025 17:59

Remember I'm generous? Oh please.

You're making out that you're a sugar daddy and she's a gold digger. Just yuk.

Christl78 · 21/01/2025 18:02

TwistedWonder · 21/01/2025 16:30

You’re 20 years her senior
You earn significantly higher than her
You've got far more assets
You've got a lot more to lose than her
You have adult children who could lose their inheritance if you get married

She does appear to be after what she can get imo - stand by your gut feeling and DO NOT get married

100% this and I am a 46F. Do not marry her. There is no reason. You are not going to have kids at this age and your adult kids may lose their inheritance.
you can move in together and co-habit instead.

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