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Feeling lost I could really use some female advice, please!

28 replies

Dadonduty · 19/01/2025 20:57

I've been married to my wife for 17 years, and we're both in our late 40s with a primary school-aged child—who I love to the moon and back! We’re from London, and our relationship was great and exciting in every way before our child was born, although my wife has always been quite highly strung. She gets agitated over the smallest things, and it often feels like I'm walking on eggshells around her. It’s always been that way to some extent, but things have worsened since our child arrived.
Financially, we’re stable—both of us have good jobs. However, my wife’s mood has really taken a downturn. She seems permanently agitated and constantly looks annoyed. It’s been gradually getting worse over the years. She has tried antidepressants before, but they didn’t seem to help. She has also put on some weight, which I know bothers her. I’ve done everything I can—from reassuring her that it doesn’t change how I feel, to encouraging and supporting her when she wants to do something about it—but somehow, everything still seems to be my fault.
When it comes to intimacy, there is none. We’ve been sleeping in separate bedrooms for around five years, and there’s been no sex or even any kind of physical affection in that time. I go out of my way to make her feel special—I tell her every day how amazing she is, what a great mother she is, how beautiful she looks, and how much I appreciate her—but I’m usually met with silence.
On top of that, I do more than my fair share around the house and with our child—I cook, clean, do the school runs, help with homework, and generally try to take the load off her as much as possible. I’ve also been making an effort to look after myself, going to the gym—not just for me, but because I want to look good for her, if that makes sense?
I know she loves me, and I love her, but it feels like she’s fallen into a rut where nothing else seems to matter anymore.
Sorry for the long post—really appreciate your thoughts!

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Purplerain1144 · 19/01/2025 21:08

Have you spoken to her about it? You sound like a wonderful husband but if you don't broach the subject you're never really going to come to the cause of the problems

Dadonduty · 19/01/2025 21:11

Purplerain1144 · 19/01/2025 21:08

Have you spoken to her about it? You sound like a wonderful husband but if you don't broach the subject you're never really going to come to the cause of the problems

Hi , yes , I've tried lots of times - but its usually met with some kind of agitated response like 'here we go!' or just eye rolling .. if i try to push the subject , she just gets more wound up.

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teenmaw · 19/01/2025 21:13

It sounds if you really are all you claim to be and she would agree as if she's struggling with something that's impacting on her mental health. If she's not willing to be open with you, seek help and work on your marriage then you need to decide ultimately if you want to stay in a sexless and dead relationship. It sounds miserable and I'd personally not want that to be what my life was like again.

fashionqueen0123 · 19/01/2025 21:14

Sounds like she is depressed maybe? Why is she sleeping in another room?

NotinToTintin · 19/01/2025 21:15

shes irritated by you, she doesn’t want to be intimate with you, and she won’t even talk to you about your concerns. I’m really sorry, that sounds like a very lonely position to be in. Gently - what makes you feel that she loves you?

Dadonduty · 19/01/2025 21:17

NotinToTintin · 19/01/2025 21:15

shes irritated by you, she doesn’t want to be intimate with you, and she won’t even talk to you about your concerns. I’m really sorry, that sounds like a very lonely position to be in. Gently - what makes you feel that she loves you?

Every now and again , once a week maybe , she'll be really nice, she'll laugh make plans with me , even tell me how much she loves me .. but it just reverts back to the old ways pretty quickly .

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Insidenumber09 · 19/01/2025 21:18

I wonder, could you try writing some thoughts down for her to read and she could respond back that way - it may be easier for her to express herself in that format if you aren’t as close anymore and it may be an olive branch 🤷‍♀️

GrandmotherStillLearning · 19/01/2025 21:18

Dadonduty · 19/01/2025 20:57

I've been married to my wife for 17 years, and we're both in our late 40s with a primary school-aged child—who I love to the moon and back! We’re from London, and our relationship was great and exciting in every way before our child was born, although my wife has always been quite highly strung. She gets agitated over the smallest things, and it often feels like I'm walking on eggshells around her. It’s always been that way to some extent, but things have worsened since our child arrived.
Financially, we’re stable—both of us have good jobs. However, my wife’s mood has really taken a downturn. She seems permanently agitated and constantly looks annoyed. It’s been gradually getting worse over the years. She has tried antidepressants before, but they didn’t seem to help. She has also put on some weight, which I know bothers her. I’ve done everything I can—from reassuring her that it doesn’t change how I feel, to encouraging and supporting her when she wants to do something about it—but somehow, everything still seems to be my fault.
When it comes to intimacy, there is none. We’ve been sleeping in separate bedrooms for around five years, and there’s been no sex or even any kind of physical affection in that time. I go out of my way to make her feel special—I tell her every day how amazing she is, what a great mother she is, how beautiful she looks, and how much I appreciate her—but I’m usually met with silence.
On top of that, I do more than my fair share around the house and with our child—I cook, clean, do the school runs, help with homework, and generally try to take the load off her as much as possible. I’ve also been making an effort to look after myself, going to the gym—not just for me, but because I want to look good for her, if that makes sense?
I know she loves me, and I love her, but it feels like she’s fallen into a rut where nothing else seems to matter anymore.
Sorry for the long post—really appreciate your thoughts!

Bless your heart. Sounds peri menopause to me as I was a complete nightmare in my 40s with peri menopause..
If you Google symptoms and if they fit. It's not an actual test for menopause but they take bloods and go by the numbers increase.
If you can gently encourage her to have bloods done for menopausal reasons to rule it out.

Anon501178 · 19/01/2025 21:20

That's really sad as you sound a lovely husband just like mine is, but I would say that sometimes it's easy to take advantage of a good husband like you and take kindness for weakness and take that for granted.She needs to be informed of how you feel aswell as just being asked how she feels, and required to take your feelings into account.
What is she like with your daughter? As I think that would be telling to determine if this is more about her general persona or about her feelings towards you?

Dadonduty · 19/01/2025 21:23

GrandmotherStillLearning · 19/01/2025 21:18

Bless your heart. Sounds peri menopause to me as I was a complete nightmare in my 40s with peri menopause..
If you Google symptoms and if they fit. It's not an actual test for menopause but they take bloods and go by the numbers increase.
If you can gently encourage her to have bloods done for menopausal reasons to rule it out.

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Hi , yes , she's been dealing with that for a couple of years and has been on HRT which as helped all the other symptoms - but to be fair , this has been going on for a long time .. its just like she's annoyed by everyone and everything - and unfortunately i have to bear the brunt of it.

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Wishihadanalgorithm · 19/01/2025 21:25

I would tell her you are very unhappy and it sounds like she is too. Ask her if she wants to split. If she says yes, then there you go. If she says no then I think couples counselling is needed.

A PP has suggested peri-menopause and that’s a real possibility but unless your wife talks to you and wants to work on the relationship, you are wasting your life.

I think you know you are at the crunch moment, things can’t stay like this for ever.

GrandmotherStillLearning · 19/01/2025 21:25

Dadonduty · 19/01/2025 21:23

Hi , yes , she's been dealing with that for a couple of years and has been on HRT which as helped all the other symptoms - but to be fair , this has been going on for a long time .. its just like she's annoyed by everyone and everything - and unfortunately i have to bear the brunt of it.

Oh that is tough for you as I was very cold and shut down and bitter with the world at that time. Hard for those around me.

Dadonduty · 19/01/2025 21:25

Anon501178 · 19/01/2025 21:20

That's really sad as you sound a lovely husband just like mine is, but I would say that sometimes it's easy to take advantage of a good husband like you and take kindness for weakness and take that for granted.She needs to be informed of how you feel aswell as just being asked how she feels, and required to take your feelings into account.
What is she like with your daughter? As I think that would be telling to determine if this is more about her general persona or about her feelings towards you?

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We both do our fair share , but it like everything is a chore and a pain to her .. its so difficult trying to be upbeat and happy when the person you're with to so 'annoyed' by everything.

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It is .. when I wake up , in a good mood and hear things like 'oh for F*cks sake , i cant find anything in this room!' .. my heart sinks!

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Purplerain1144 · 19/01/2025 21:32

Do you think she would do talking therapies? It sounds like there's something else going on that she doesn't want to discuss with you but may with a stranger or counsellor

HoppityBun · 19/01/2025 21:35

Hi OP I do sympathise. I have to say that I’ve been like your wife in the past and I felt miserable because I was treating people I loved so badly. It would be a mistake for me to suggest that there are deeper parallels but I don’t agree that the perimenopause is necessarily the cause. I well remember being told that people around me felt that they were walking on eggshells.

My suggestion is that you engineer an opportunity to tell your wife that you can’t continue like this and that you will support her to find a way out of her unhappiness. Seeing her GP might be a start. Also a therapist. Best wishes to you both

Trinity69 · 19/01/2025 21:35

I agree that this like peri menopause. I’m currently exactly the same. Cranky about everything and wish everyone would just go away and leave me alone. I know very little about HRT, have an appointment to discuss it next month but if I understand correctly, it’s not a one size fits all. Maybe she could try a different form of HRT?

sjs42 · 19/01/2025 21:37

Sounds like menopause. Blood test needed. Menopause is utterly terrible for some people and it sounds like your wife is one of them.

PeopleLikeColdplay · 19/01/2025 21:39

It does sound lonely for you.

Has she said how she'd like to be approached in general? I know you said you're trying to cheer her up, but personally I find that really annoying when I'm down and hormonal. The compliments would probably grate on me too. Sorry if that's blunt, but I thought it would be better to be honest.

Is it possible for her to go away by herself for a few days? Stay somewhere nice and just relax and have some proper time for herself?

Hellohelga · 19/01/2025 21:52

GrandmotherStillLearning · 19/01/2025 21:18

Bless your heart. Sounds peri menopause to me as I was a complete nightmare in my 40s with peri menopause..
If you Google symptoms and if they fit. It's not an actual test for menopause but they take bloods and go by the numbers increase.
If you can gently encourage her to have bloods done for menopausal reasons to rule it out.

Edited

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Anxiety and depression were the first symptoms for me, way before the hot flushes. I found Citalopram worked wonders - has she tried this? It’s gentler than a lot of anti depressants and is more for anxiety really. It’s very commonly taken by ladies of a certain age. And a bit later I added HRT as well. Please get her to see a gp and discuss all this.

NotinToTintin · 19/01/2025 22:06

This sounds awful for you op. I think if I was your wife I would want to know how my behaviour was effecting others.

And if I was in your shoes I would want to make it very clear that no one deserves to spend the rest of their life being the garbage can for her bad moods. She needs to accept some responsibility and work on herself so that her relationships survive - primarily with you but also, I imagine, with your children who are watching her treat you like shit.

have you thought about whether you would prefer to be alone or to be with her when she is treating you this way?

Sillyauldthing · 19/01/2025 22:27

I am sorry that sounds hard to live with. Has her personality changed since your child was born , was she always a bit uptight and easily annoyed and it’s got worse? . If she can’t control moods perhaps she needs to see a Dr. Everyone gets a bit moody but it shouldn’t be allowed to make your life a misery almost all the time. Perhaps she just not happy with her life OP ( kindly meant) and it’s time to take the bull by the horns and discuss where you go from here, or perhaps it’s just her personality and it’s up to you to work out if you want to continue living like this. Good luck op

Findwen · 19/01/2025 22:36

Once a week...maybe... she is really nice ? No one could think that is enough.

Putting aside physical intimacy, verbal intimacy and companionship are vital for long term relationships. It's clear she is still the one for you... but it seems you are no longer the one for her. Maybe no one is. Point is, you no longer seem to make her happy and I bet your child is very aware about the atmosphere.

If you can no longer make her happy - maybe it is time to let her go. Think about creating a new life in a new home with your child - am sure you could make a wonderful, fun & nurturing environment for them. Don't act on it yet - but think about how you could make it work. Then set yourself a date - Easter, end of this school year - whatever, and if you still seem unable to improve her life on that date .. it is time to do the decent thing and exit it, don't prolong it another 6 months, year, 5 years....

Mumshire · 20/01/2025 06:33

This was is one where I'd love to hear her side of the story. My DH could've written similar to this (from his perspective) but my story would be completely different and in reality he's a very difficult person to live with.