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I don't feel good enough to stay around for

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HoolieJem · 15/01/2025 15:20

Hi there

I apologise in advance if this isn't the right place to be posting, but I wanted to ask for some support and advice.

I'm in my forties and am single without children (hope that doesn't rule me out of being here). I have a full time job, some social interests and one male sibling who I am close to, but otherwise no family left. My Dad died suddenly when I was in my twenties and I lost my Mum fairly recently too in 2020 (not covid).

I know I haven't fully processed my Dad's death as it happened when I was so young and I kept going for my Mum and brother. I didn't fully comprehend how young my Dad also was when he died and am only seeing it now as I get older myself. But when my Mum died, it completely floored me and I have never felt pain or confusion like it. She was my rock and her death plunged me into a depression.

I then met a man who I fell deeply in love with but who became very abusive to me and I had to uproot myself and my job to get away. It has seriously affected my self esteem to the point I feel worthless.

In the immediate aftermath of Mum's death, the people that I believed were my close friends visited, attended the funeral and then - nothing. At first I thought as they are lucky enough to have their full families that they didn't understand or know how to deal with grief. But the last time any of them visited my house was in 2020. I wasn't lying around, but after covid I found myself not comfortable going to parties, or being in large crowds and one of the group in particular (gay male) did this all the time. I explained it was no longer for me, and seemed to relugated to the box of 'cinema friend'. As time has gone on, even though this male friend has both parents, he seems to have one crisis after another which is always a bigger issue than anything I have experienced. But I have tried to be a support to him - even offered him use of my caravan when he was having a romance issue, and my dear Mum paid for a holiday for him to come with me for a birthday present. I have tried to be open and honest with him about my feelings surrounding her death and how it's affected me but to cut a long story short, he has completely disappeared. He lost his grandmother who was 90, and didn't tell me she had died. When I raised it with him saying I wanted to support him, he sent me a text that said 'you are the only person I know who would make an issue of this. I can't deal with this when I am going through trauma and have had to plan a funeral'. He told me he hated her and wouldn't be sad if she died. All I was doing was saying I wanted to support him and was surprised he hadn't told me, but after he sent that text I apologised for 'getting it wrong' and he said 'yes you did but let's move on'. I haven't heard from him since and that was a year ago.

My female friend has been no better. But the crux of that is that despite what I experienced, I have made every effort to stay in touch, and I'm always the one who does all the travelling. I have bought her kids presents which have never been delivered due to this or that at her end. She has a car but has never once driven to visit me in the 17 years I've known her and we live half an hour apart. I fully appreciate having two young children is not easy, but she has the support of her mum, mum in law and husband and other family members. I've dropped hints, oh come and visit! And she always just sends a smiley emoji. I have spoiled her daughter in particular rotten since she was born 8 years ago, but this year I just decided I wasn't getting the usual Christmas gifts because I can't afford it, and last year when I drove down to deliver them, despite her knowing I was coming, she texted to say 'we have to go to his mum's now' and she actually DROVE PAST ME, waved, knowing I had all the kids gifts in the car. She tells me she isn't well, then I will see photos of her out in her area with other people. It hurts like hell. I tried to talk to her early on when my abusive relationship ended and her exact words were 'What do you want to talk about? I'm trying to stay positive at the minute so won't be discussing HIM'. So I just kept it all to myself.

At one point I'm embarrassed to say I tried to take my life and thought opening up to the people who I believed were my best friends would be the right thing to do but I was in hospital alone for the duration with only my brother visiting. The most I got from them was an emoji sad face or 'hope you feel better soon'.

I know I have been through a lot but I have always done my best to be a good friend and to be there for all of them. But I am finding as I try to put boundaries in place, none of them are looking for or coming for me. The man I fell for, I loved so much but he said he couldn't cope with being loved and now I feel my friends are non existent too. I do feel like if I disappeared I wouldn't even be missed.

I hope I have articulated this properly. I am well thought of at work and am always told on the outside I'm a ray of sunshine but inside I'm really hurting. I have come to the conclusion now that I don't seem to be worthy of the same type of love and support as other people.

Thanks for letting me talk.

OP posts:
PullTheBricksDown · 15/01/2025 15:25

You are worthy of love and respect. Totally. Your mum's love for you shows it too. I'm sorry she is not here for you now. I'm not surprised her loss has floored you.

You sound like you're very eager to please and you've run into people who have taken advantage of that. It doesn't mean you aren't worthy of better. You are.

If you work, do you have money to afford counselling? Apart from anything else, you really could do with help coming to terms with your mum's death as well as everything else. It would be worth spending on. I say that because I know it'll take ages to get it on the NHS.

HoolieJem · 15/01/2025 15:44

PullTheBricksDown · 15/01/2025 15:25

You are worthy of love and respect. Totally. Your mum's love for you shows it too. I'm sorry she is not here for you now. I'm not surprised her loss has floored you.

You sound like you're very eager to please and you've run into people who have taken advantage of that. It doesn't mean you aren't worthy of better. You are.

If you work, do you have money to afford counselling? Apart from anything else, you really could do with help coming to terms with your mum's death as well as everything else. It would be worth spending on. I say that because I know it'll take ages to get it on the NHS.

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I was worried I would be made fun of. I try so hard to be a good friend and a nice person and am very trusting but am so fed up now of not getting anything back. I can't believe the only response that comes in is an emoji now and again. It's just very hard for me to believe I am worth anything as everyone seems to leave.

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Lavenderblossoms · 15/01/2025 15:58

I used to be like this. A total people pleaser. I genuinely believed that you don't give to receive but as I've gotten older, I've realised it's utter balls.

A healthy relationship in any form, is mutal giving and receiving.

I used to have friends who were just like yours. All about them but could never be there for me. I also went way too far for people who didn't deserve my love and kindness.

I realised what was happening, grew myself a spine and told myself no one treats me like that again as I was letting them. I realised I did have some power in this. And the secret? I am friends with people who's actions matches their words. I have less friends but my goodness, they are worth everything.

I genuinely used to believe that bad friends were better than no friends when I was younger. I was bullied and didn't have that many.

It's so strange, now I no longer give people a mile to use me, I feel like people respect me more now. I'm still kind and generous but only those who have time for me. Genuine people who don't game play.

You will find your people. It just takes some time. Most of my friendships are one on one and I'm happier that way.

I'm sorry for your loss too. Unless someone has experienced it, I've found people don't know what to say or can't be there for you. Real friends are I believe. I have also had loss this year, in more ways than one and sometimes people don't understand how deep the cut is.

I recommend some ACT therapy. It really helped me.

You sound like a wonderful person and you deserve the world. Make this year your year. Get out and treat yourself how you deserve to be treated. Do you have anything to fill your life out side of work? Is there anyone at work that you could do outside stuff with sometimes?

Lavenderblossoms · 15/01/2025 16:00

HoolieJem · 15/01/2025 15:44

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I was worried I would be made fun of. I try so hard to be a good friend and a nice person and am very trusting but am so fed up now of not getting anything back. I can't believe the only response that comes in is an emoji now and again. It's just very hard for me to believe I am worth anything as everyone seems to leave.

If anyone laughs at your for pouring out your feelings on here, whilst asking for help, then that says more about them than you will ever know.

spoons123 · 15/01/2025 18:24

Really sorry that you're having such a difficult time. You deserve love, friendship and respect as much as anyone else and I hope you manage to find some support to help you understand that.

It's perfectly normal to hope that your close friends would help you through life's challenges. The fact that they haven't offered much means that they are at fault NOT you.

Wishing you a happy and healthy future.

Newnameshoos · 15/01/2025 18:32

I completely understand where you are coming from, @HoolieJem and it sounds as though your friends were the 'sunny day' type. Fine while everything is sweetness and light, disappear rapidly when you need their support.
I think the suggestion to get counselling is a good one, and perhaps some therapy around building self esteem and self image. We people pleasers seem to have awful self esteem but not realise it. Having therapy helped me to realise how much I was letting people take advantage.
There will be genuine real friends out there, either people who you know but haven't realised, or people who you don't know yet. Perhaps joining an interest group might be a way to build your network.
I hope you start to feel better about things soon.

Bibi12 · 15/01/2025 18:56

OP they are not real friends. The time you're putting into chasing them you could be spending on finding and building better relationships.

Of course you are worthy of love and good enough. You sound like an amazing friend and someone others would be lucky to have in their life. You just need to stop investing in people who don't invest in you back.

HoolieJem · 16/01/2025 09:18

I'm 48 now though. It's very hard to meet anyone new at this stage and I know I am a bit different in that I don't have kids and a husband etc. The other thing about my female friend is that she is a classic fence sitter. Even when the male friend hurt me badly she won't step in or speak out for me and she also said 'I don't want you breaking your heart if you see me out with him'.

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Lighteningstrikes · 17/01/2025 22:45

Time to drop these so called friends and get some proper ones. They sound absolutely awful!

Friendship is a two way street and you were too nice with these complete takers.

It’s a new year, and time for a new start.

Perhaps join a club and see what comes of it. Never force it or be needy. When it’s meant to be it will happen.

Good luck 💐

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