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WWYD?

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WWYD89 · 11/01/2025 01:20

Sorry for sparse details, I didn't want to go overboard on a public forum.

Background - with boyfriend for a little under two years, he's separated from ex(wife) for almost two and a half years. Knew him before he left, no crossover, but in hindsight likely too quick - maybe six/seven months between. There are three children 3, 6 and 9. There has been no engagement from ex with solicitors letters, discussion about house, finances, child schedule so all still as unresolved as Day 1. We've both met each others friends and family, but I've never met his children and they don't know about me. He wants to wait until divorce is final. Ex suspects I exist and has asked directly but he has never confirmed because he said it's not her business.

I've been patient over the last two years, and I'm trying to continue to be, but I'm feeling so frustrated that our relationship isn't progressing.
He spends the majority of time at my property, but doesn't contribute to any costs which bothers me but I haven't mentioned it. He now has his own rented accommodation, and continues to contribute half to the fmh and bills there as she would not discuss the fmh and future, so he's now very stretched financially. We live week to week with up in the air child arrangements, which are consistent each week but not suitable for a good relationship with their dad and he is the one who facilitates it all. At the beginning I think there was a lot of bad-mouthing and spitefulness from ex's side to the kids about their dad, and weeks would go by where he wasn't allowed to see them. This has caused a lot of problems with contact now. My boyfriend has tried to rebuild this bond and things are getting better, but in not forcing time with him, he has now made contact optional and the kids' choice. Sometimes they will not come 'just because' or 'don't feel like it' then be completely fine or willing the next time.

We've had discussion about the future, I am ready to think about buying property together but obviously can't until his circumstances change, and I've met kids and built a relationship with them. We've had disagreements on the future about more children and marriage. He is quite against it, although I think that is normal given what he is going through currently. When I try to raise that I think X, Y, Z is problematic and could he try A, B, C instead, he gets overwhelmed and tells me that kids and financials have nothing to do with me and that he will sort it out himself. I agree with this to some extent, but he also pursued me hugely and the outcome of his divorce affects me and our relationship.
I feel like I don't know a huge part of him in that he is a father, and I feel that he isn't considering my feelings or opinions, even though I've tried to explain that it affects my life too now.

It's becoming a huge elephant in the room in our relationship and I don't know what to do. I love him, so find the idea of leaving him heartbreaking, but I'm starting to get so frustrated and feel so stuck. I know that he loves me and our relationship is great outside of these issues. Do I remain patient and see how it goes or should I leave him to it?

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WhydontyouMove · 11/01/2025 09:05

** not happy, didn't love each other any more, felt like a dogs body for housework and felt like he was funding it all.

I missed he split with a 6 month old baby. Do you really think it’s true he was a dogsbody? I think he was probably expected to adult.

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 11/01/2025 09:10

No sign of divorce after 2 years?
Then it’s not a priority for him op. He’s not considering your relationship or your feelings at all. You don’t want to hear this but it sounds like it’s time for you to walk away. You are essentially dating a married man with responsibilities.
There is no reason why he couldn’t have initiated divorce proceedings by now, nor is there any reason to keep you a secret.
He hasn’t committed to you, nor is he showing any signs of wanting to. He’s a cocklodger. Nothing more

Daleksatemyshed · 11/01/2025 09:11

Every relationship should be as equal as possible, there should be something worthwhile for each of you. For you there's very little Op, he doesn't want to remarry or have more DC, he's never going to stand up to his Ex so you'll be last on the list until his kids grow up.
Frankly, I don't know why you're wasting your time and money with this man

TwistedWonder · 11/01/2025 09:14

Unfortunately this is often what happens when you get involved with a man who has recently separated. You are his rebound and it’s an easy option for him to plod along, using your home without contributing and refusing to tell his ex you exist as not ricking the boat with her is his priority, not you. And if you’ve met his kids, of course his ex knows about you. If he really wants a future with you, why are you a secret?

You're wasting your life with him. And quite bluntly you must be mad to be considering buying a property with him. Keep what’s yours and don’t put your finances at risk for a flaky bloke who walks out on a 6 month old baby and is still enmeshed with his ex wife. He will end up as a cocklodger - which he already seems to be on the way to.

NeedsMustNet · 11/01/2025 09:14

In your shoes I would go away for a weekend and try to talk of these things through in a neutral location.

Go on walks, have car journeys and / set up other conversation times where you are side by side and can talk naturally and freely. Not just over a dinner table.

I would say, if nothing further comes out of these chats, that you want to have a pause of two months as it’s not working for you currently and he and his wife hasn’t processed the fall out from his marriage which means you are stuck in the middle and that hangover is spilling over into the present moment, and you want clarity and transparency, not this muddled arrangement. After two months - no contact - you can meet and see if anything has changed for both of you.

NeedsMustNet · 11/01/2025 09:14

NeedsMustNet · 11/01/2025 09:14

In your shoes I would go away for a weekend and try to talk of these things through in a neutral location.

Go on walks, have car journeys and / set up other conversation times where you are side by side and can talk naturally and freely. Not just over a dinner table.

I would say, if nothing further comes out of these chats, that you want to have a pause of two months as it’s not working for you currently and he and his wife hasn’t processed the fall out from his marriage which means you are stuck in the middle and that hangover is spilling over into the present moment, and you want clarity and transparency, not this muddled arrangement. After two months - no contact - you can meet and see if anything has changed for both of you.

If nothing has changed for him you need to go cold turkey and move on.

2025GB · 11/01/2025 09:15

Why are you hanging around when you want children in the future and he doesn’t? He’s got three small children anyway. Sorry op it sounds very messy and I don’t know where you fit in.

NeedsMustNet · 11/01/2025 09:18

What is very weird is that he says financials are none of your business and that your existence is none of her business. She knows you exist and she knows your name - their kids will have told her straight away.

It’s as if on some level he isn’t aware of he likes playing these two women off against each other.

  1. if he doesn’t want more children, he doesn’t want them.
  2. what is he trying to hide? did he have an aware before he left his wife? He seems emotionally constipated.
pinkdelight · 11/01/2025 09:21

Please get past the 'but I love him' optimism. You can't possibly consider buying a house with a father of 3 children that you've never met. He doesn't contribute, it bothers you yet you don't mention it - that's a terrible dynamic for a relationship. And you can't mention it because you know he won't be receptive and he's stretched with his ex and kids financially so he's got no money anyway. Of course he doesn't want to marry and have DC with you. You're very useful helping to support him financially and with all the other benefits of your home and love and sex in this tricky two years almost immediately after he split with his wife, but there's no way a man with 3 young children wants more DC and a new wife any time soon or maybe ever. And if he did, I'd be doubting his sanity. Thank your stars that you've not moved in together and don't make it part of your future plans. He is not a good bet and I think you know it deep down.

TwistedWonder · 11/01/2025 09:22

He says his financials are nothing to do with you while he freeloads off of you!! Of course they are your business as he’s taking from you by staying at yours and contributing nothing.

Coldcoldwinterweather · 11/01/2025 10:09

He is a man with 3 children. One was only 6 months old when he left. And he left at the very time his ex had every right to expect him to step up and do his share of all that parenting requires. Including housework. No wonder she was bitter.

And now he is free loading off you.

I think you should see him for what he is and not what you want him to be.

FinallyHere · 11/01/2025 16:58

felt like a dogs body for housework and felt like he was funding it all.

So now he is being very careful to make sure he won't feel like that again, by freeloading off you. How much does he do around your house? To me, He doesn't seem to be contributing much to your life. How much of your life got him I'd wanting a different version of him which may not actually even exist?

I think your instinct that you got together soon after his separation.

He doesn't sound as if he has much left over for you. Fair enough for him but is that really what you want for yourself?

WWYD89 · 12/01/2025 01:18

Thanks everyone, I have some thinking to do.....

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