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Ex is still enmeshed with my life- need help

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WhyCantTheyJustBeKids · 10/01/2025 15:31

Hi,

This could get long but I feel I need to give some background.

I met my ex in 2015. The relationship was a bit rocky from a year in, because- as I later found - he is avoidant. He would regularly walk away and say he couldn't do the relationship. Then the next day be apologising and wondering why I wasn't acting like nothing had happened. This happened a few times, and I seemed to fall into a bit of a rescuer role, as he definitely had and has mental health difficulties.

Anyway, I had a child with him. Not planned but very much wanted. She's amazing of course and I'm glad to have her. In 2019, he suddenly started holing up at his parents' place where he has an annexe, and not spending time with the family anymore. We hardly ever saw him and it was all to do with his mental health. I pretty much begged him to sort things out and even went with him to a MH assessment. After 6 long years of his behaviour, which, after our daughter was born, became emotionally abusive as well, I ended the relationship in 2021. I found it very hard to cut it off, and ended up taking him back but only for a few weeks and not long enough for anyone else to know. He was just never going to help himself.

He continually told me he was going to get himself sorted from then onwards. So I remained invested. Because of course if he sorted himself out, I still loved him and I'd take him back. Plus, we have a daughter together. But in 2022 he had two periods of several months of not so much as contacting me to ask about our child. He was usually seeing her several times a week - at my home. From then onwards, I started separating emotionally finally. Then in 2023 I had some major health issues that made me vulnerable, and in the end he didn't support with our daughter. I had to find childcare for her when I was taken seriously ill and in hospital for 2 weeks, because he couldn't step up after having yet another aggressive outburst with me a few days before I became ill. So for all that time my daughter stayed with my friend whilst worrying about her mum, and didn't see her dad.

And yet... he brings our daughter home here to do bedtime on the days he has her, because he's not got a space for her at his. His sons have a bedroom each and only stay every other weekend. I've recently said she has to stay every other weekend on the Saturday night so I can start having a life, but this isn't going well as he flakes. I've continued to go with them some weekends to help with her clubs, or taking her to the park. This is partly driven by fear of him not managing her. He wouldn't hurt her but he can become shouty and I want to manage their relationship. Our daughter also likes seeing us together and for the most part it is positive. She never sees animosity. He still asks me what I'm up to and tells me things about his life randomly. Like this morning he sent a random text saying he'd had some good news. Nothing about our daughter.

It took a good 2 years but last year I felt ready to think about dating again. I still felt connected to him and found it hard, but by November I went on a really good date that resulted in a kiss but ultimately went nowhere, and that was enough for me to finally be able to draw the line. Since then, I've been dating someone else.

The problem I'm having is, my ex is so enmeshed with my life. I don't ask him anything about his anymore, but he will ask me. He will look at stuff. He has to come here when he has our daughter. I also know he still loves me, but I do not love him anymore. I do, however, care about him; and I am scared of telling him I'm dating. But I will have to if things progress. I'm worried he will spiral and be devastated. I'm worried it'll change things for our daughter.

How can I do this in the best way for everyone? I'm dating someone I think is lovely, but it is very early and things may not go anywhere. Eventually it will with someone though. I want him to know I'm moving on with my life and am no longer an option for that pie in the sky day when he sorts out his life. Please help!

OP posts:
TipsyJoker · 10/01/2025 16:50

He’s still enmeshed in your life because you are allowing it.

You can’t, “Manage their relationship” you should t really be involved in it. It’s your daughter’s relationship with her dad. You have to give him a schedule of when and where her clubs are and leave him to it. Hard though that may be, she’s his daughter and when she’s with him she’s his responsibility.

No more doing bedtime at yours. He could easily put his 2 boys in the same room and make a room for his daughter. He doesn’t because it gives him an excuse to come into your home. And that’s another thing that has to stop. He drops her at the door.

No more texting giving him info about your life. It’s none of his business. If he texts you something that not about your daughter, ignore it. He’s emotionally abusive, he’s NOT your friend. Learn the grey rock method and employ it. Your relationship will be confusing to your daughter and giving her false hope of a reconciliation.

Don’t be surprised if he starts not turning up for contact when he realises you’ve made plans. He won’t want you moving on with your life because he’s emotionally abusive and controlling.

Mum2Fergus · 10/01/2025 17:05

Stop enabling him.

SapphOhNo · 10/01/2025 19:17

You know deep down your enabling this behaviour OP.

WoBeeWon · 12/02/2025 10:44

You need to stop functioning for him, and focus
on taking full responsibility for yourself and your own choices.
You cannot “manage” your ex’s parenting of your daughter. It’s unhealthy for the whole family for you even to try. Most importantly of all, it’s not in your daughter’s best interest.
As hard it feels to deal with what will be a big change for you, it is totally within your own power to set boundaries. You already know that you should. Point is: if you really wanted to, you would. You need to be honest with yourself about why you haven’t. You need to move your focus from “wanting him to know” that you are “moving on,
to actually just doing it. When moving truly occurs, his awareness of it is not your motive and by the by.
I agree with the advice above to use the “grey rock” method. Put all your energy and focus into really moving on - which means building up other aspects of your own life with your daughter. And with the boundaries: fake it tell you make it. Maintain your boundaries to HELP yourself move on. In the end, you’ll get to a place where you have moved on, and the boundary maintenance will be natural.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 16/02/2025 12:05

True, the only person who can stop it is you OP.

Great that you've started daying again, that's a big step. Now follow through and own it.
Caring for someone has to go both ways. If he loves and cares for you, he'll want you to be happy. If he doesn't, then he can't care that much.

It's unhealthy and you need to put boundaries in place. Don't be so easily available to him. Enabling him is giving mixed signals.

Be firm as your daughter will also benefit from a proper structure.

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