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What is reasonable regarding in laws staying

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Wisteria1989 · 27/12/2024 09:28

My husband is not from the UK, we have been together 10 years and lived in a 1 bedroom flat before, moved to a small 2 bedroom house within the past year. His sister booked flights to come here on Xmas eve without checking first, her and her 2 kids are staying 11 days.

I’ve tried to be a good host and make the best of it, managed to cook a massive xmas dinner all by myself for 8 of us, as I had already invited 3 people before she booked her flights. We are in a dilemma of different opinions and I think it is a clash of cultures. He says that in his family view/opinion they can just invite themselves here/book a flight whenever they want without discussing it first. If we asked them to check with us first, or it wasn’t suitable for whatever reason, it would look like we didn’t care and didn’t want them here.

I know his parents want to come here too, probably within the next month. I actually don’t mind having people here (although they don’t speak English so it’s obviously a bit awkward) but out of respect I have said that a conversation needs to be had first, to check it is a convenient time to visit, that I am okay with it. After all I would ask my husband if he was okay with my family staying. It’s not about asking permission it’s just common courtesy.

I think this is going to happen again and again, unless he says something. I feel like I'm the guest in my own house, they've completely taken over. The children are so badly behaved but I can’t say much as they can’t understand me. He is trying his best, the kids are stressing us both out as their Mum doesn’t discipline them at all. He is just as stressed as me, but he can’t say anything as she will then think he doesn’t want them here. This all sounds so toxic, just booking flights without checking and imposing yourself and your badly behaved kids on people. I would never do that to anyone I cared about.

Really struggling with what next steps to take, we don’t have kids yet but are trying to get pregnant too. I can’t imagine having a baby myself and them just showing up and taking over our house when they feel like it. I feel like I am the guest in my own house. His family doesn’t see it like that though and make themselves right at home. I think it’s just differences in opinion, I don’t know what to do next time one of his family members decides they want to come, as I have just had enough now.

I will say, I'm quite close with his Brother and Wife who live 20 mins from us. It seems the family who don’t live in the UK are the issue. They didn’t stay at the Brothers house, as she stayed there last time and I think she wanted to come here as it’s our new house and she wanted to see it… we have spent so much money preparing the house for them, had to buy all the furniture too just before xmas. We hadn’t bought everything when we first moved in as it is obviously expensive. Had no choice now though as we had no spare bed in the other room - also bigger dining table and chairs too, for all 8 of us on xmas day plus xmas pressies for our extra guests.

Am I being mean or can people understand that I feel my husband is allowing them to dictate stuff to us. He feels like he can’t ever say no to his family. It’s going to be the same shit when his parents visit too. FYI my family have never stayed with us, but to be fair they all live in England so I understand his family must miss each other and will want to visit. Visiting I can put up with, but a bit of respect would be nice.

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Incenseda · 29/12/2024 00:34

If you haven't had children, get out.
If you have children, make plans.
This will only get worse a lot worse.
No man is worth this.
Certainly not some mummys boy terrified of upsetting his rude family.
Are you paying towards housing his family for weeks on end?
Then you unfortunately are a mug.
And don't they know it.
Hence they don't respect or pay a blind bit of notice of you or him.

Gymnopedie · 29/12/2024 00:36

If they want to visit, he can’t say no as he thinks they will then think we are rude and don’t care.

That's their culture. But in yours, they are the ones being rude and not caring.

There needs to be a proper compromise here, not you giving in to keep the peace.

TomatoSandwiches · 29/12/2024 00:45

He won't change or have a word with anyone, he will tell you what you want to hear and carry on with what his family of origin wants, you are not his priority at all.
Just divorce now and absolutely do not have any children with him, if not then this will be your life, he won't change for you.

DreamTheMoors · 29/12/2024 01:00

Oh, @Wisteria1989I truly, truly understand.
Except I wasn’t in a multicultural marriage - mine was plain old white.
I loved his family - absolutely adored them. They lived on the US east coast and we lived on the west coast, but no matter where we lived, they’d all take turns and come to visit.
And it was wonderful to see them, but it was exhausting.
I’d have houseguests from May until September.
And that included the marketing, the laundry, the day trips and all the little things.
They’d wait for me to plan things. They’d wait for meals and snacks and activities.
Day after day after day after night after night.
And a few days after one set would leave, another set would arrive.
I feel your pain — but don’t be like me. Don’t just complain about it on the internet - use your voice and put your foot down. Stop this now by refusing to carry on any more.
The magic word is “NO!!”

ThatKhakiMoose · 29/12/2024 01:25

I have trouble believing that any culture is this rude. Is that just a cop-out? Or are they from India, where the wife/DIL is the lowest on the totem pole?

BMW6 · 29/12/2024 02:28

Honestly OP this Relationship is not going to work.

He will always defer to them rather than you. Always.

If you have children with him it will get much much worse.

Save yourself a world of heartbreak and get out of this marriage.

Wisteria1989 · 29/12/2024 08:51

So the inviting themselves probably won’t happen again without us both agreeing, he knows this now and agrees as we have spoken a lot and he has seen how upset I am. The issue with his sister is she had already booked the flights, so there would be no way we would not have let her come here. Only if we physically had no room, or already had other people sleeping here. There is the option of the brothers house but I think they prefer it here, as his wife would never put up with any shit. She very much makes them understand that it is her house, and while they are guests they aren’t going to be taking over the place, and the kids will be told off. They might not understand English but they understand the word no or stop. Plus our house 🏠 is new so they want to see it… I

feel really bad inside because if I wanted my family to stay and he put up a fight on it I would be annoyed too. I feel like in a marriage we should compromise a bit to try and make it each other happy. So having his family come and stay, is this something to be expected? I can’t tell if I am being unreasonable. My only point would be that if I was more firm on my stance (like my husband’s brother’s wife) maybe they would respect me a bit more, what do you think?

We’ve just had her here with the kids, then his parents want to come at some point, I’m pretty sure it will be in January. I cant stand the thought of them coming, the house is small and again it’s 2 people who I can’t speak to. I care about my husband so I don’t want to ban his family from visiting, I think I should put down some boundaries. I would prefer it if they came for 1 week only, Also at a mutually agreed time, not just after Christmas and also just after our other visitors.

We’ve spent so much money, she hasn’t put her hand in her pocket one time. The parents won’t either, so obviously with his parents he wants to look after them and treat them. Right now though it would be better to have a bit of a gap before we have anyone else visiting, as we are supposed to be saving money not spending it. Does anyone have any ideas of how to handle the next visitors, if at all? Also I have thought about parting ways, but really am I going to throw 10 years in the bin. I love him, yes he is a bit more laid back and doesn’t want to upset his family, this is a problem we need to put a stop to right now. I just hate feeling like the bad guy.

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Youvebeenframed · 29/12/2024 09:09

I personally couldn’t and wouldn’t put up with this regardless of how much I love my husband. It is totally unreasonable to have people staying in a small home when they don’t pay their way, you can’t communicate with them and when they have zero respect for you.
SIL has it sorted 🤷🏼‍♀️
As you have previously mentioned if you were living in his country fair enough; but he is married into your culture in your country so he should respect that; particularly when you are so upset about it.
You are being very reasonable to be trying to think of compromises and at the very least they should
a) run it by you first
b) stay no longer than a week
c) not have visitors more than once a quarter (or whatever you’re comfortable with) and never when you have plans or want to make plans.
Being made to feel uncomfortable in your own home is just not on so you shouldn’t have to stay elsewhere or consider doing other stuff to stay away.
If they want to see him they should all make plans together away from your home Airbnb ? Hotel etc (and pay for it)
This would be a deal breaker for me

Wisteria1989 · 29/12/2024 09:35

Youvebeenframed · 29/12/2024 09:09

I personally couldn’t and wouldn’t put up with this regardless of how much I love my husband. It is totally unreasonable to have people staying in a small home when they don’t pay their way, you can’t communicate with them and when they have zero respect for you.
SIL has it sorted 🤷🏼‍♀️
As you have previously mentioned if you were living in his country fair enough; but he is married into your culture in your country so he should respect that; particularly when you are so upset about it.
You are being very reasonable to be trying to think of compromises and at the very least they should
a) run it by you first
b) stay no longer than a week
c) not have visitors more than once a quarter (or whatever you’re comfortable with) and never when you have plans or want to make plans.
Being made to feel uncomfortable in your own home is just not on so you shouldn’t have to stay elsewhere or consider doing other stuff to stay away.
If they want to see him they should all make plans together away from your home Airbnb ? Hotel etc (and pay for it)
This would be a deal breaker for me

Thank you, 🙏 totally agree. I think I am going to put my foot down, no visitors for the time being after they leave. Especially ones who I can’t communicate with, just not fair.

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