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Time to call it quits?

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LJJWER · 26/12/2024 20:11

I have turned to mumsnet a couple of times in the past and have received some really helpful insights and advice. I'm back again with a very long, multi layered story and so I appreciate it if you stick with me throughout.
My husband and I have been together for 17 years (married 7) and during this time lived in the UK, then overseas (2012) and back to the UK (2021). We moved back for many reasons but it was quite abrupt and driven by my husband who I don't think thought this through. I was quite ready to come home since we had two small children and i was missing my family.
Initially we moved out of the country when we were fairly young and childless but the main reason was my husbands work prospects. He was struggling to hold work in the UK.
Once we moved, the same patterns of the in and out of work cycle soon started again. I was in full time work the entire time we were away not apart from when I was on maternity. Most of the time I actually had a 2nd part time position too which was more of a passion project. And this is when the pattern of being in and out of work began again. Everything was supposed to be great...there was loads of jobs available but every single on he was fired, walked away, laid off, sabotaged. Over and over again. Bouts of unemployment took their toll on our finances of course and so staying ahead was really difficult even though I was working constantly. He loved his lifestyle but couldn't hold a job.
There have so been episodes of addiction over the years. Substance, gambling. And I believe porn/sex. Sex has been an issue in recent years for him (despite the fact we have 3 children under 8) apparently I don't want it enough, I'm not intimate....and these days I agree but I am not a robot.
The majority of the household workload is on me, including responsibility with everything that comes with having 3 young children. I love them and would do anything for them but this should be partnership and it is not. Its like I have 4 kids. I do everyone's washing, meals and household cleaning. I mean, would you want to be intimate with someone who you felt like acted like your child !! I think not.
Since returning to England I got a job (kids at that time age 4 and 5 months) and before we came back husband made all kinds of promises about work and what we could do...made it sound really exciting. As soon as we got back. Completely negative. He says... Wages not enough, pond life, its like a prison here, we need to move back overseas where there is work, excuses and reasons why he cannot work here. Constant negatively.
There have been dashes of.hope when there have been periods of steady work when I've felt positive. We had another baby (I became pregnant whilst taking the pill so don't come for me....why have another - I think all of things of myself all of the time so I know, but my baby girl brings me such joy) ...2 months after she was born, he got laid off. And they said it was restructuring but I know how he is and how he goes on. Entitled and opinionated. It rubs people the wrong way.

And now. After being on maternity leave for a year I am back at work full time with all of the same physical and mental workload at home and a husband who is so depressed about his decision to move home that he is rude, irritable, sneaking substances, short with me and the kids. He is constantly negative and sometimes if we get into an argument he flies off the handle and name calls and screams awful things within earshot of the kids (this is what I hate the most and thankfully it hasn't happened recently). Completely unwilling to commit to anything, will not entertain doing any type of job that is not perfect. This list goes on.
And so this is where I am at. Living in a tiny rental home (because his bouts of unemployment have completely swallowed all the savings we had to purchase) with my 3 kids and him currently not contributing a penny and not pulling his weight.
Why can't I find the strength to end this?! I do love him but these days the resentment is taking over. His sister and I have on multiple occasions pleaded with him to seek professional help for his mental health and addictions. Also we suspect full on ADHD. He had a trauma filled childhood with physical and emotion abuse from his father and other things like bullying. I know he has his issues. And I would never turn my back on him BUT this is MY life too. And my kids. I am 36 and I feel like I am waking up thinking....is my life going to feel like this forever. Him never happy where he is and me following on where the grass is greener for HIM? I've never been one that craved loads of money and things. I just want to be able to give my kids the things they need and have a stable life for them. Not shipped here there and everywhere when things get hard. I don't want to do this alone. But there are times I feel I already am. I worry about the impact it would have on the kids if we separated. I wonder where he would go. He has no money and I doubt his sister work take him in or his parents for that matter. They know about everything going on. Apologies reader...this is not just all of my thoughts being spewed onto the screen. I don't really have many people I can speak with about this at the moment so I do apologise for the rambling.
I feel really alone, really weak and really tired. I just want peace. 😓

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YesIdolovehim · 26/12/2024 20:19

That sounds unbearable OP. Even when you are considering leaving him, you are thinking of the impact on him, He doesn’t show you any care or consideration so I would say LTB and build a new life with your kids. It doesn’t sound like he is contributing anything positive to your life at all.
Good luck, make 2025 the start of your happier future xx

LJJWER · 26/12/2024 20:24

YesIdolovehim · 26/12/2024 20:19

That sounds unbearable OP. Even when you are considering leaving him, you are thinking of the impact on him, He doesn’t show you any care or consideration so I would say LTB and build a new life with your kids. It doesn’t sound like he is contributing anything positive to your life at all.
Good luck, make 2025 the start of your happier future xx

Thank you 💜

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username299 · 26/12/2024 20:31

I have no idea what you're doing OP. He's completely incapable of being an adult and you're basically his carer.

He's an addict and can't hold down a job while you follow him about and use up all your savings.

He's a dead weight dragging you down yet you won't leave. Read up on codependency and cut him loose. You don't want your children to emulate any of this.

LJJWER · 26/12/2024 20:33

username299 · 26/12/2024 20:31

I have no idea what you're doing OP. He's completely incapable of being an adult and you're basically his carer.

He's an addict and can't hold down a job while you follow him about and use up all your savings.

He's a dead weight dragging you down yet you won't leave. Read up on codependency and cut him loose. You don't want your children to emulate any of this.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

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ruddygreattiger · 26/12/2024 21:04

Please just kick him out, he is making your life so much harder.
Pp was spot on - you are basically his unpaid, unappreciated carer.

LJJWER · 26/12/2024 21:15

ruddygreattiger · 26/12/2024 21:04

Please just kick him out, he is making your life so much harder.
Pp was spot on - you are basically his unpaid, unappreciated carer.

Thank you

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Neveranynamesleft · 26/12/2024 21:17

You need to take a deep breath, put your big girl pants on and make plans to leave him. Life is too short to be flitting here there and everywhere just to suit him and it sounds as though nothing will ever really be good enough for him anyway. Please think of your own health and wellbeing, your children need you and need stability in their lives and although it may seem daunting now, please move on, (or move him on) you will thank yourself in the not too distant future.

grumpyoldeyeore · 26/12/2024 21:34

My ex would similarly self sabotage. The resentment and feeling you have an extra child won’t change. After we split my ex had to go back to work- he made new friends, his depression improved. So don’t worry about walking away it’s probably what he needs - he will never step up when he can rely on you to do all the hard work. You will at least be able to control your finances so you can rebuild. I found I saved money after being in debt for years. Use a benefits calculator and see if your income may be topped up by UC. I understand not speaking about it I felt embarrassed that this was my life and the partner I’d chosen and I hid the extent of his uselessness for a long time. It will be exhausting physically doing it solo but mentally the load will much easier. I ended it when I felt my mental health was going downhill too and I realised my dc needed one functioning parent. The dc were fine they adjust much quicker than the adults and the calmer and more stable the home the happier they will be.

LJJWER · 26/12/2024 22:12

grumpyoldeyeore · 26/12/2024 21:34

My ex would similarly self sabotage. The resentment and feeling you have an extra child won’t change. After we split my ex had to go back to work- he made new friends, his depression improved. So don’t worry about walking away it’s probably what he needs - he will never step up when he can rely on you to do all the hard work. You will at least be able to control your finances so you can rebuild. I found I saved money after being in debt for years. Use a benefits calculator and see if your income may be topped up by UC. I understand not speaking about it I felt embarrassed that this was my life and the partner I’d chosen and I hid the extent of his uselessness for a long time. It will be exhausting physically doing it solo but mentally the load will much easier. I ended it when I felt my mental health was going downhill too and I realised my dc needed one functioning parent. The dc were fine they adjust much quicker than the adults and the calmer and more stable the home the happier they will be.

Thank you so much x

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LJJWER · 26/12/2024 22:12

Neveranynamesleft · 26/12/2024 21:17

You need to take a deep breath, put your big girl pants on and make plans to leave him. Life is too short to be flitting here there and everywhere just to suit him and it sounds as though nothing will ever really be good enough for him anyway. Please think of your own health and wellbeing, your children need you and need stability in their lives and although it may seem daunting now, please move on, (or move him on) you will thank yourself in the not too distant future.

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Thank you

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SunflowerTed · 26/12/2024 23:19

You need to make plans to ask him to leave. Do you have family nearby? He just hasn’t got the interpersonal skills or motivation to keep a job and is sabotaging your whole life.

YesIdolovehim · 26/12/2024 23:25

You have been posting about your issues with him for months OP so you need to accept that it isn’t going to improve. I know it is really difficult to separate lives that are so intertwined but you are so unhappy that it can only get better if you make the decision now.

unsync · 26/12/2024 23:39

Get rid of him. You deserve better. Your children deserve better. You are already alone as he's not pulling his weight, at least not in the right direction. You will have much more capacity to deal with life when he's not taking up so much of your mental bandwidth.

Builtforspeednotcomfort · 26/12/2024 23:56

I think you're correct with the ADHD. He needs to get counselling for his depression, and get a diagnosis for the ADHD. You need to give him an ultimatum, get tested and get councilling or we are through. You need to give him a deadline. Like you see a doctor as soon as possible, ( days not weeks) the doctor can arrange testing for ADHD and can arrange councilling sessions, or put him in touch with the right people like NHS mental health services.

If he refuses to do this, or doesn't stick to it, you have to be prepared to call time on the relationship. You deserve a partner and your children need a dad. He will never change because he'll blame the world and never own it, why would he? You're an enabler. You sound like a lovely person, great mum and extremely understanding. Whether he means to or not, he's taking you for a mug. Be strong, remember by doing this, you're helping him. I hope 6 months from now he's thanking you and holding down a job.

Another thing; Maybe if he rubs people up the wrong way, does he have skills that could fit to him starting up a little company? Consultancy, Freelance, Web and tradesman companies are very cheap to set up, some people just don't suit the corporate structured workplace. So talk to him about other options. Please don't jet off to start again, his problems will follow him anywhere in the world!

Good luck,

Wishing you a fabulous 2025 x

Squareroot · 27/12/2024 00:02

“Why can't I find the strength to end this?! I do love him but these days the resentment is taking over”
What exactly is it that you love about this man & your life atm? Your post is long & to me you sound worn out, thoroughly despondent & like you’ve had enough. But I note one PP say you’ve posted about this before. You might just be one of these people who find they prefer to stay with what they know & moaning about that rather than change it is easier simply cos it’s familiar. That’s the deal you’ve made with yourself. But think about the model you’re setting your kids of what a healthy relationship looks like. Even if you’re prepared to settle for this, do you think they should when they grow up?

Incenseda · 27/12/2024 00:07

OP, what are you doing with this multiple addict loser and inflicting him on children?

Get him out of your home.
Whatever happens to him is on him.
Put your children first, not this loser who cares only for himself.

AutumnFroglets · 27/12/2024 00:19

You cannot fix him. You never could.

He is broken and now he is breaking you. When you are both broken who will look after the children?

Itiswhysofew · 27/12/2024 00:36

I wonder if he has any clue just how bad things are? Does he setiously think that his behaviour can continue within your relationship?

Pinkbonbon · 27/12/2024 02:20

You do know it's OK to be single right?

No need to keep this parasite in your home.

Choose you and your kids.

LJJWER · 27/12/2024 09:50

SunflowerTed · 26/12/2024 23:19

You need to make plans to ask him to leave. Do you have family nearby? He just hasn’t got the interpersonal skills or motivation to keep a job and is sabotaging your whole life.

Thank you

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LJJWER · 27/12/2024 09:50

YesIdolovehim · 26/12/2024 23:25

You have been posting about your issues with him for months OP so you need to accept that it isn’t going to improve. I know it is really difficult to separate lives that are so intertwined but you are so unhappy that it can only get better if you make the decision now.

Thank you

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JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 27/12/2024 14:41

Yes, it's time to call it quits. Hi don't need permission from anyone but yourself to make that decision.

You sound worn out and worn down but I assure you, you will start to feel better as soon as you get this man out of your life.

You're so young! You sound like a grafter. You don't need to be dragged down anymore. You can do this! Tell him to leave and if he won't go, find somewhere for you and the children to move into. Start 2025 as you mean to go on. And that's without him in your life.

LJJWER · 27/12/2024 15:48

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 27/12/2024 14:41

Yes, it's time to call it quits. Hi don't need permission from anyone but yourself to make that decision.

You sound worn out and worn down but I assure you, you will start to feel better as soon as you get this man out of your life.

You're so young! You sound like a grafter. You don't need to be dragged down anymore. You can do this! Tell him to leave and if he won't go, find somewhere for you and the children to move into. Start 2025 as you mean to go on. And that's without him in your life.

💜

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LJJWER · 27/12/2024 15:50

Itiswhysofew · 27/12/2024 00:36

I wonder if he has any clue just how bad things are? Does he setiously think that his behaviour can continue within your relationship?

I think he's so self serving he really doesn't consider how deeply he is affecting everyone.

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