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Marriage 20 years - need advice

7 replies

MinimalistMommi · 26/12/2024 06:46

Would you stay in a financially secure marriage in my position? Or would you leave?

Some background: Was very ill with cancer at 21. I found this an extremely traumatic time and felt very lonely through the experience. This was in the March. Made stupid decision in the January had got impulsively married to uni boyfriend. Got diagnosed 12 weeks later and he said he didn’t want a sick wife. While I was having chemotherapy he insisted on sex one time and covered part of my head because I was bald. This felt awful emotionally inside. He refused to walk beside me on pavement because I was bald and he was embarrassed. Didn’t come to single chemotherapy with me. I packed up my stuff and left during chemotherapy. Divorced. Had chemotherapy/radiotherapy/treatment for a nine month period.

Went back to childhood home afterwards. Lay in bed for two weeks with covers over my head because I couldn’t cope with life. Finally got out of bed and started to function again. This was a year on from initial diagnosis and that year I turned 22.

Got a retail job etc and carried on. In the September decided to move to another city. The year I was 23 I started a relationship with my now husband and went back to uni for a year for training. We rushed into things and decided to get engaged before uni. Looking back his mum was pushing at engagement bizarrely. I was very frightened and scared after what I’d been through and probably wasn’t in any way emotionally capable of making that decision. When he proposed I cringed inside. Not a good sign. We were long distance for an academic year. He would travel to see me each weekend and everything appeared fine.

After uni, we moved in with each other and I almost immediately fell pregnant. No protection as I’d been told I would be infertile from treatment. Didn’t realise I was pregnant until around 2 months pregnant. Got married very soon after baby was born. Was overjoyed about baby.

Throughout marriage some things have been fine with a stable routine. I’ve had to deal with many hospital appointments checking constantly for cancer. Chemotherapy damaged heart and needed work done on it after second baby. Would say I’m traumatised by all the hospital stuff. It became clear pretty quickly that husband had anger issues and couldn’t control anger. Lots of shouting and releasing his stress on me after work. When I was pregnant with second , he wasn’t ‘allowed’ to shout at me as I was I danger of heart attack and dying in my sleep so I had a buffer zone until my heart was fixed. Flying off the handle and lots of shouting continued, at least weekly if not a couple of times a week. Shouting in front of children. When he wasn’t doing that he was bending over backwards to do everything for me which was very confusing. He grits his teeth at me and talks to me in very aggressive manner through gritted teeth. In front of the children too. I’ve begged him to stop but he continued.

Sex deteriorated very quickly early on in the marriage because of the shouting. He would pester for sex and say I want to have sex with my wife etc and if I didn’t give in he would give silent treatment in front of kids for 48 hours and be moody. I felt forced into sex to keep the peace for most of marriage. It wasn’t loving as I couldn’t look at him because emotionally we weren’t connected. It was uncomfortable and painful. I felt very sad and used. Kissing stopped and cuddling stopped. For past decade he has slept with cat in his arms and I’m at the side of the bed with big distance. We go to bed at separate times.

So here we are almost at 20 year point in 2025. My husband is someone who is either shouting/being extremely aggressive towards me or bending over backwards to do everything for me. Apparently it’s been emotionally abusive but I didn’t realise until about 5 weeks ago. I’ve been working for the past ten years and he didn’t love me being more financially independent. Six years ago I ran off to a yoga retreat in a far away country for two weeks and never felt more free. When I returned home he put so many of his emotions onto me and made me feel so guilty that I knew that would never happen again. I feel so much sorrow that I’ve never had a satisfying sex life with a loving partner with emotional connection and kissing and hugging and cuddling. It makes me deeply sad to have not connected in this way. Everyday routine is fine and he will sit with me each evening for around an hour watching a tv show together. Rest of time in two separate rooms.

I’ve asked him to leave the family home tomorrow. I’m extremely, extremely frightened and panicked and anxious as I am financially secure with him. I feel like I can’t cope with my feelings and the children’s feelings. I’m very high risk secondary cancer. Should I stay because of the security but never have the chance of true love with a deep emotional connection or does that not really exist? I feel like I can’t cope and I’m so scared.

OP posts:
Wallywobbles · 26/12/2024 06:55

The alternative to not doing this are far worse. Yes it will be scary. But honestly you'll be so much happier and healthier.

Please no more relationships. Take time to heal. Get good counseling for yourself. Find who you are. You were so young when all this trauma started.

After my first horrible marriage I was single for 6 years because it took me that long to heal.

FedUp1000 · 26/12/2024 07:44

When I read your title I was 50/50 as I would have stayed in my unhappy marriage to remain financially secure but having read your post I definitely agree with the PP. It will be hard leaving but living with your H sounds intolerable.

TipsyJoker · 26/12/2024 09:29

You might be financially secure but you are not safe. Your husband is emotionally abusive, aggressive and is sexually assaulting you by forcing you into sex you do not want. What are you teaching your children by staying in this abusive relationship? That’s men are aggressive emotional abusers and women accept it. That’s not a healthy lesson to learn.

You’ve tasted what life would be like living without this abusive man. Money can be made. Your safety is paramount. The stress of living like this could even cause you’re health to deteriorate again. Get out before that happens.

If you’re in the UK, contact women’s aid to get support and help to make an exit plan. Also, see a lawyer about what you would be financially entitled to in the divorce. Remember, you should be entitled to half of everything since you’ve been married for 20 years. And if your children are under 18 you will entitled to maintenance too. If you are on a low income you would be entitled to claim universal credit and get help towards housing costs and a council tax discount. Women’s aid can help you with this too.

As pp mentioned, therapy would be good. It will help you process your medical trauma, the abuse you’ve suffered, including the sexual trauma and help you learn new skills like how to set and maintain healthy boundaries.

category12 · 26/12/2024 09:45

You're in an abusive marriage, (as was your first).

You deserve a happy life.

I wouldn't leave in the hopes of finding another better man, but in the pursuit of a contented and calm life of your own.

Maybe a good relationship will come along, but with your history of relationships, you may be vulnerable to picking another wrong un (as it's really common to end up in further abusive relationships as boundaries get squashed and skewed with abuse). You could try the Freedom Programme and counselling to try to recover from the trauma and reset boundaries.

A life free of some nasty-ass bloke bossing you around and sexually coercing you is worth leaving for, on its own.

Chaseandstatus · 26/12/2024 09:48

You have one life OP. It can be a happy one. You are doing the right thing - good luck.

Kosenrufugirl · 26/12/2024 10:11

As I see it you have a choice of either staying financially secure with 0% chance of finding happiness or leaving financial security with a very small chance of finding love. I am not saying you should stay. I would say you are in a very poor position of finding a fulfilling relationship right now. You are suffering terribly emotionally. You also seem to have a very poor self-esteem if you have tolerated this marriage for so long. You haven't mentioned the children- this will complicate things a lot. Unless your life is in danger I suggest you stay put and get counselling first before making any drastic moves. Contact Women's Aid- they will probably suggest some ways forward regarding counselling, finances etc.

Haroldwilson · 26/12/2024 10:18

You need to learn to define yourself other than through kids, cancer, men. Who you are for yourself.

Don't leave this relationship with the mindset 'I must find another man before cancer returns'. Leave it with mindset 'I'm going to give myself the best life I can and stand on my own two feet'.

Men and romance might be something that comes along. I'd aim more for contentment, friends, hobbies, solid things that build your confidence.

You stuck out two relationships for longer than you should, being treated badly. You need to work out why that is before you go into another one.

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