Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Would you keep this friend?

9 replies

LoyalFriendindeed · 24/12/2024 19:25

Hello all,
Im new here and posting because I’m considering cutting a friend out of my life, but it’s Christmas time so I’m really torn whether to keep the friend or not.

I like her and we’ve been friends for almost 4 years. She’s the only friend that has offered me a place to stay for the night (3 times) when I couldn’t afford anything due to homelessness. I’m a full-time working teacher but health problems (directly and indirectly) led to homelessness. I don’t have family in UK and she’s also the only person I know who I can call in the middle of the night in an emergency - an emergency loan, a warm place to stay, a meal or just a friend to have coffee with on the weekend. (My other friends turn their phones off at night and are generally overwhelmed w family obligations).

When we meet up, I get quickly drained. She is quite depressed and there’s often unnecessary drama in her life that I avoid. When it’s time to part she begs me not to go, nags and strongly insists and keeps me for a few more hours despite my vehement protests that I feel unwell and exhausted due to health condition.

She did this again a few days ago, despite my putting on my coat and telling her that I will collapse if I don’t go. I tolder at least ten times very bluntly. She just ignored and insisted and got me to help her move furniture around despite my telling her I physically cannot. It’s easier to stay rather than argue w her - that’s how bad the begging and nagging is to keep me from going.

I finally left hours later as she protested. And I ended up in hospital. It was serious, life-threatening and I’m still recovering days later. Christmas plans are all cancelled and I’m alone recovering, weak and exhausted.

She also did something else that uprooted my life a couple years ago, but I excused that because she had a newborn at the time. She had just taken in a lodger that was clearly unstable and mentally unwell and refused to pay rent from the start.

A week later she called to say that her uncle was moving unexpectedly to our town and she needed her room immediately and wanted me to take her mentally unstable lodger into my home immediately (it was a lie; she no longer felt safe with the lodger, I found out later).

At the time I was living in a happy home with a friend-landlord. Lots of pressure from my friend, so I begged my landlord-friend.
Suffice, that lodger made home life an absolute hell for me and my landlord. I ended up moving out. Lots of stress and health condition flared up along with other problems, so I have been dealing with homelessness ever since.

My question to everyone who reads this is…. would you keep this friendship? Before you say absolutely not…What if it’s your only safety net? She does have redeeming qualities and a fun personality despite the depression.

I would greatly appreciate any thoughts and comments as I’m finding it tough to decide what to do because it’s the holiday season.
Thank you all so much.

OP posts:
2468KMNP · 24/12/2024 19:33

What a strange situation - does she know that you ended up in hospital? What was her reaction?

Why didn't you just leave? Was she barring the door?

I cant stand people being so weak and using the "it was easier to just do as she asked" excuse. In what world has that EVER been true? Never.

If you aren't prioritising your own health - why should she think it is important?

duvetday0006 · 24/12/2024 19:36

Firstly I’m so sorry to hear about how you’re feeling and that your plans have been cancelled.

I wouldn’t put pressure on yourself to make any rash decisions. What I would say is weigh things up. Yes, this person has been there for you in some amazing ways. And yet look at the situation you’re in now due to her selfish actions at times.

So from someone who has been in a very similar situation, I’d say take some time to weigh it up. Life is short and unless she’s really worth it don’t waste time on a person that drains you.

I really hope you’re feeling better soon and wish you a peaceful Christmas ❤️

Seaoftroubles · 24/12/2024 19:43

I'm afraid your friend is demanding, needy and manipulative. But you have allowed this! You should have just walked away, she couldn't have stopped you. I would suggest counselling to help build your boundaries, which are currently non existent. No one should sacrifice their health in this manner and your so called friend had no right to expect it.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 24/12/2024 19:44

It sounds like both of you are quite chaotic people and can be quite needy friends, obviously from your side she sounds like hard work. Equally it sounds like you take a lot from the friendship, needing emergency money, late night phone calls, needing places to stay, needing to be fed etc. I would be interested to hear her take on the friendship. Two chaotic people are not going to make for a stable friendship!

Why are you still homeless if you are currently working full-time as a teacher and the issue with the lodger was a couple of years ago? Presumably you are earning enough to rent somewhere? Instead of focusing on whether you should continue to put into this friendship and worrying about how you will cope without your friend as a safety net I would focus on trying to set up a stable life for yourself so that you don’t need to rely on anybody for favours. If you aren’t relying on anybody else you will be able to say no to your friend and exert boundaries without worrying about losing her, it may be she listens and you can maintain the friendship without feeling obliged to please her or it may be she continues to treat you like this even after you’ve stood up to her in which case you can walk away. Either way it would be a better decision to make if you weren’t bringing chaos and neediness to your side of the friendship as much as she is to hers!

LoyalFriendindeed · 24/12/2024 19:44

If you’ve ever been so physically weak from a health condition that you barely have the energy or strength to even walk you would understand why it’s easier after 10-12 prolonged protests to just give in. When I’m well I can easily put her, people and students in their place.

OP posts:
2468KMNP · 24/12/2024 19:50

tolder at least ten times very bluntly. She just ignored and insisted and got me to help her move furniture around despite my telling her I physically cannot

So you have the energy to move furniture (whether you felt forced or not) and to tell her something 10 times - but not the energy to walk out of the door???

Okaaayyy then.....

DeliciousApples · 24/12/2024 20:04

I'd keep her. But at a distance.

When I visited her I'd tell her in advance that I will be leaving when I'm tired and it's not on to try and make me stay longer. When I need to go it's up and out.

When you feel the slightest bit tired just get up and say "I'm going now see you later" and walk out. No more chat.

If she ever physically prevents you from leaving I'd not keep her as a friend.

TriptoTipp · 24/12/2024 20:34

It seems you have an issue with boundaries both yours and others.

Why did you have to say 'No' x10 and then capitulate. What was wrong with your legs to walk out the door? Were you seeking her permission to leave? Did your legs only work when she agrees with you?

Also why the knee jerk reaction to mop up her dramas with the lodger?

Think about that. You didnt want to do it. But you went against YOUR better judgement to accomodate her - was it to please her? And then you feel resentment?

Are your any of your illnesses auto-immune / addiction / MH which could be related to childhood trauma? If so please seek professional therapy as your internal physiological world and your external relational world are both hughly dysregulated by your past and there is no need to live like this.

TipsyJoker · 24/12/2024 21:07

LoyalFriendindeed · 24/12/2024 19:44

If you’ve ever been so physically weak from a health condition that you barely have the energy or strength to even walk you would understand why it’s easier after 10-12 prolonged protests to just give in. When I’m well I can easily put her, people and students in their place.

You should have left after the first time you said no. Why would you say no then still stay there? You have to accept responsibility for yourself and your health. You’re not doing that. Your friend can’t make you do anything. At the same time, she shouldn’t be pressuring you into doing things you’re not comfortable with. No means no. You allow her to bully you into things you don’t want to do, even if they’re bad for you, because you have an issue with setting and maintaining healthy boundaries. I would suggest that you work on that and you should be working on getting yourself a stable, safe place to live. Why are you homeless when you are working as a teacher?

New posts on this thread. Refresh page