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DH and musical activity

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runningpram · 23/12/2024 10:47

DH is an amateur musician and performs at v high level. He recently joined a music group that has been running a series of concerts at a prestigious venue through December. The concerts happen twice a day on a Sunday through December and now will take place every day twice a day in the run up to Christmas. There is also a once weekly rehearsal. The performances are not just a few hours. Yesterday’s effort was 14 hours including journey time warm up and events.

It has meant every Sunday during December and now everyday in the run up to Christmas I am doing childcare, xmas prep alone, following a week of busy full time work. I have also been really unwell with a bad cold over the period. DH then disrupts my sleep further when he arrives back late.

The venue is packed out and each concert must make huge sums but the group doesn’t even provide a couple of free free tickets to families of participants. Last night, sick with flu and disrupted sleep, I got to the end of my tether with it all.

DH loves his music and it is a brilliant experience but am I wrong in saying this cannot go ahead next year without significant revision. I also feel that I might also drop a quick note to the group administrators - who talk about wanting to attract younger members - congratulating them on a successful concert series but asking them to be mindful on the pressures on families in the background accommodating their bonkers schedule!

DH has said that he didn’t understand the sign up process and felt that he had to put his hand up for more concerts as a new member. He said he had put TBC for some dates but then had been roped in for the whole thing.

It is only one month a year and for good causes and DH gets lots from it, so part of me feels it is the flu talking and I should I suck it up. Would be good to get views - especially from those with experience of family members doing high level amateur arts stuff.

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mitogoshigg · 23/12/2024 13:12

My advice to him is to check the set up of the group. Some are choral societies which means money made not donated to charities is going back into the organisation which is non profit (typically only the conductor receives a fee), if it's a for profit group that the organisation is making money from (there are many set up like this now) is be asking a lot more questions about proceeds from free labour.

Finally there's plenty of choral and other music opportunities with less burden, we perform 3-4 times a year which seems far more balanced, and my other smaller group we put money we make from concerts into the org to pay for transport to gigs, arranging costs, annual Christmas party etc and pay no fees.

itsparklesitshines · 23/12/2024 16:47

taxi4ballet · 23/12/2024 13:07

It can take over everyone's life in the family, not just the performer, I agree. With a dancer and a musician in my family, and quite a few in my wider friendship circle, I've come across it a lot.

Regarding venue tickets - the ticket sales are not normally organised by the orchestra, choir, theatrical company or whoever is putting on the performance. All the tickets are usually sold by the venue itself, so the performers can't necessarily get free or discounted tickets.

Not quite true.
There's two types of gig arrangements- one where the venue pays a fee to the musical group for the concert - the venue then does all the promotion, marketing, fixes the ticket fees and take all the ticket income.
The other arrangement is where the musical group pays a fee to the venue to hire it - and then the musical group does all the promotion, marketing etc and takes all the ticket sales income. Most amateur concerts are the latter

I'm suspicious about where all the money is going on this one - I think someone is possibly taking massive advantage of the goodwill of these amateur musicians, but without any specific details on this , it's difficult to tell.

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