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Feeling lost, not respected and appreciated by husband

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Emotionalday · 16/12/2024 16:09

Hello fellow mumsneters,

Not really sure what I'm looking for here, your honest opinion, advice, or perhaps just an opportunity to write it down to process it myself. So here it goes...

My husband and I have been together for 17 years (married for 13) with two young children. I would like to think that we were both sweet kind-hearted people, but in recent years, life has changed us and it is not rare for us to have bitter arguments and throw nasty words at each other. Yesterday, we had another huge argument and worse, in front of our kids, which we both regret, and that's what prompt me to sit down here to take a long and hard look at our relationship.

To put it simple, we don't feel loved, emotionally supported and respected by each other in this marriage. I can only come here to offer my side of the story : More and more so recently, I feel that I am just a tool in his life to make things move forward for him, and that makes me feel emotionally and physically drained.

All started with the pandemic. My husband was focusing on looking after our children due to sudden reduction of work and I was working from home day and night to support the family. I had a severe back pain back then, but by massaging my back, I managed to force myself to sit down to work long hours and luckily we managed okay as a family. On one of this stressful days at work, I went upstairs to speak to him, only to find out that he had his pants down, busy watching live porn. To me, recorded ones are fine, but watching live ones is different, and it's the ill timing that made me feel so sick about it - I was working hard downstairs (in order to do so, I kept massaging my back so much that I bruised myself), but my husband was busy watching another naked woman chatting live. The excuse he gave was 'I felt lonely'. I understand, but never accept that it can justify his action. I felt extremely hurt, and betrayed.

Long story short, we talked about this and tried to move on. But more issues, small ones, started to surface. He lied about searching for and following his ex on social media, repeatedly initiating chats with one specific female co-worker from 10+ years ago, speaking to another mum at school, joking (according to him) that his wife 'works too much and can't take her ass off the chair', wanting to staying for playdate with another mum at her house although home is only 3 minutes away, etc. etc. None of these are big issues, and no, I don't think he has had a physical affair, but little by little, those small things eroded my trust in him.

Emotional support wise... 1) in the past 3 years, I had a few health scares and went through numerous scans and checks. My husband was always ready to give me a lift to the appointments, but never (not once) asked about those consultations and test results. He was physically there for me, but I was left emotionally alone to deal with these. When I raised this issue with him, he blamed me for not being proactive in keeping him informed. 2) Before our big arguments this year about kids & school, he normally left everything school-related to me (apart from morning dropoffs), claiming that he was busy at work (occasionally true) but assuming that I, equally busy at work, would always find time to run the house, look after kids while providing a reliable income for us. If he cooked or checked kids homework, it's him HELPING me (as if it was supposed to be my job alone) and 'you should feel privileged that I work from home and can help out with the kids' were his words yesterday. 3) Regarding the 11+ journey we are currently going through, I have been informed yesterday that he wouldn't get involved as he was way too busy (despite having time for Netflix) and had no clue about 11+ (no, he doesn't know how to use Google search, and yes, I should know better although I'm from a different country).

I won't bore everyone with all the details. In short, I just feel that he has been emotionally logged out most of the time in the past few years, and I am just a person in his life to make things progress - children's education, family matters and provide financially when he keeps looking for jobs.

Yesterday, I couldn't hold back my tears in front the children, and he claimed that I was just acting sad to make him look back in kids' eyes (even laughed at the fact that I would often cry during arguments). He also called me a 'manipulative mum' in front of our kids (because kids were worried, and I told them that it's okay for mummy to cry as mummy is sad, and that I might need a hug from them). While I was breaking down in tears, he was busying searching through bank statements, trying to show me that I didn't contribute any money in one of the months last year (which turned it out not true; we each normally contributes to the joint account as much as we can, sometime he paid more, often it's me). So, yeah, it's painful to find out yesterday that he didn't respect me at all, and turned a blind eye on all the pressure (emotion and financial) and the work I have been put under.

I wondered if I was overreacting to all these, and even did a depression assessment online. I am also aware that that it has not been an easy few years for him, and that because I was so hurt by a number of his actions, I kept the intimate time out (not as punishment, just emotionally couldn't do it if it makes sense), which doesn't help with relationship.

So, I'm lost.

Am I being unreasonable to feel unloved and unappreciated? What is the way forward? Whatever your role is in your relationship, please offer your advise and your perspective. Criticism are welcome too. And thanks so much for reading my lengthy rant (I feel much better after letting it out).

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Whathappensnowplease · 16/12/2024 16:29

He getting his sexual gratification from porn and from live Web cam sex workers. He has no respect for women. He sees women as sex objects.
He seeks out other women in real life.

Why do you want to stay in a relationship with a man like that ?

Mumlaplomb · 16/12/2024 16:35

OP it can be very hard on couples when children are fairly young and both are working. It’s normal for some distance and resentment to arrive. However seeking out interaction with sex workers, colleagues, mums at the school gate isn’t reasonable and neither is not supporting you emotionally. Do you want the relationship to carry on? What needs to change both sides for that to happen? Is he willing to put work in or has he checked out?

kobii · 16/12/2024 16:35

I have to say he sounds like he has completely checked out. I think you would be flogging a dead horse trying to make things better as it will you making all the effort.

Eyresandgraces · 16/12/2024 16:42

He sounds absolutely horrible.
I rarely cry but if I do my dh will always come and hug me and take it seriously.

We bicker at times probably more than we should but dh has never, ever shirked responsibility regarding dc, chores etc.
My 2 are adults now but they have learned that both parents are responsible for running a household.

Emotionalday · 16/12/2024 19:38

Whathappensnowplease · 16/12/2024 16:29

He getting his sexual gratification from porn and from live Web cam sex workers. He has no respect for women. He sees women as sex objects.
He seeks out other women in real life.

Why do you want to stay in a relationship with a man like that ?

Edited

That is the question I'm trying to work on. Perhaps I'm just clinging onto those nice things he do for our family and fleeting moments of care he shows to me. Or perhaps I'm just unreluctant or afraid to make any big changes that will affect our children forever.

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Emotionalday · 16/12/2024 19:42

Mumlaplomb · 16/12/2024 16:35

OP it can be very hard on couples when children are fairly young and both are working. It’s normal for some distance and resentment to arrive. However seeking out interaction with sex workers, colleagues, mums at the school gate isn’t reasonable and neither is not supporting you emotionally. Do you want the relationship to carry on? What needs to change both sides for that to happen? Is he willing to put work in or has he checked out?

He promised yet again he would change and put in more efforts, but deep down I know it is unlikely to last. I can see that our relationship is slowly turning into the one his parents have (his mom is the rock of the family and dad has emotionally checked out for years), although he always resents me for thinking so.

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Emotionalday · 16/12/2024 19:46

kobii · 16/12/2024 16:35

I have to say he sounds like he has completely checked out. I think you would be flogging a dead horse trying to make things better as it will you making all the effort.

Thanks for your honest opinion and honestly that would be my reply too if the original post was written by another person😅but when personal emotions are involved, letting that message sink in just takes a little longer time...

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Emotionalday · 16/12/2024 19:50

Eyresandgraces · 16/12/2024 16:42

He sounds absolutely horrible.
I rarely cry but if I do my dh will always come and hug me and take it seriously.

We bicker at times probably more than we should but dh has never, ever shirked responsibility regarding dc, chores etc.
My 2 are adults now but they have learned that both parents are responsible for running a household.

I would offer a hug even if it's just a stranger crying in front of me, so his reactions yesterday really showed how little he cared about me emotionally. A slap on my face and a big wakeup call. I need to take a few days off to process what's happening in this marriage.

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poormenagain · 16/12/2024 19:51

... he normally left everything school-related to me (apart from morning dropoffs), claiming that he was busy at work (occasionally true) but assuming that I, equally busy at work, would always find time to run the house, look after kids while providing a reliable income for us. If he cooked or checked kids homework, it's him HELPING me (as if it was supposed to be my job alone) and 'you should feel privileged that I work from home and can help out with the kids' were his words yesterday.

This is clearly a complete recasting of reality, a ridiculous expectation on his part, and thoroughly unfair to you. Has he ever explained to you why he feels this way? It's possible that he's a complete narcissist and just sees whatever he feels like doing at the moment as the most important thing and everyone else as a kind of bit player 9this might explain why he's had trouble keeping a job, too). Or he just advocates for his own interests, whatever it takes, expecting you to push back equally hard for your interests (and disregarding the negative impact to the shared children)? Or is it possible that he thinks that the children somehow aren't (biologically) "his"? Or he's an extremist misogynist?

CatWolf · 16/12/2024 19:52

Oh hell no. The relationship would be over the moment I walked in on that. Disgusting beyond belief.

Userengage · 16/12/2024 20:01

I couldn’t get past him with his pathetic dick in his hand watching another woman live on screen. He would be the ultimate turn off and would make my lip curl every time I saw him let alone all the rest of woman-hassling he’s doing.
“I was lonely”, my arse.
It would be over for me OP.

Rhaidimiddim · 16/12/2024 20:07

You are his maid, cook and nanny. He's looking for shags elsewhere.

This isn't a marriage, it is an arrangement where you facilitate his life and he makes you feel.like a failure for wanting appreciation and affection and for show8ng sadness when you don't get it.

Appalonia · 16/12/2024 20:13

He sounds quite selfish, manipulative and unkind tbh. And v insensitive to your feelings. I'm not sure I would want to carry on with a man like this, the mental health toll would be too much. I'm not sure what he resents you for though? I know it's easy to say just leave, but how easy would it be be as I can't see this getting any better...

LetGoLetThem1234 · 16/12/2024 20:14

Please recognise how damaging this marriage is for you.

It is actually painful and shocking to read how your husband responded to your distress. I am so sorry that your husband lacks even a shred of compassion towards you.

Dryshampoofordays · 16/12/2024 20:19

you know deep down that you deserve better OP. It’s really sad to read because you’re clearly a loving mum (and wife) and want to do the work to make things happy for your family. From your perspective there’s nothing stopping you both from making things better- you’re willing to forgive his awful behaviour if it means building a happy life for your kids. Sadly there’s no way to make someone else understand or change when they don’t want to. All you can do is focus on how you feel as things are in your marriage and decide what you need to do based on that.l Listen to your instincts and find out what life without him could look like (finances etc). You and your kids will be ok.

Dryshampoofordays · 16/12/2024 20:26

also, if you don’t have one already get a support system around you of good strong women that can hold you up when you need to lean on someone. There’s no shame in needing emotional support and it can be really isolating in these kinds of relationships when you don’t want people to know what he has done. No more protecting him at the expense of your own well-being. Good luck you really do sound like such a good person.

Emotionalday · 16/12/2024 22:01

Thank you all for taking the time to reply, and to offer your understanding and kind words.

Not to defend my husband, but he has a gentle and caring side (from my MIL, who is an incredibly caring person), although he also started to show the selfishness and cold-heartedness of his dad. In my opinion, he is also a victim of his dad's abusive behaviours, and he has unconsciously copied those behaviours which now affects us badly.

I've spent a lot of time trying to understand him and us. Perhaps he is depressed due to frustration with on-and-off work, with financial dynamics in this marriage or just midlife crisis. I'm far from perfect either - stubborn, sharp-tongue and argumentative. But that doesn't justify the way he treats me...

And 'thank you' to @Dryshampoofordays. Your words brought tears to my eyes. I was brought up to be an emotionally tough girl, too used to digest my feelings alone. This is the first time ever I seeked out for others' emotional support, and I'm glad I did.

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