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MIL issue

41 replies

Hjrk · 15/12/2024 22:10

Hi there,
Sorry, this post will be quite long, but I'm just looking for some advice on how to handle this situation. I also really need to rant. I'm a FTM to a 7 month old baby boy. He's the first grandchild on both sides of our family. The situation pertains my MIL. When I was pregnant she would say that she and FIL would help us after the baby was born, that they could help with housework or cooking etc. She must have said this like ten times over my pregnancy. She would say these things voluntarily, DH and I weren't asking for help yet as being first time parents we didn't know what we will need help with. She even said that they'd help before I was even pregnant.

We were going to have a home birth, but we had complications, so I had to have an emergency C-section and our baby had to be in the NICU for 5 days. Our hospital didn't allow visitors, so my parents in law didn't see our baby until the day after we came home from hospital. Note - at my baby shower a few months before our baby was born I casually told MIL that we would like a couple of days for just resting and bonding for the three of us after he was born. She didn't say much to that, but I thought she was okay with it. However, some time after this she spoke to DH and I found out that she was extremely upset by it as she wanted to see her grandson like the same day or next day after he was born. We reduced the amount of days we wanted to have alone after the birth. Even though she was so upset by this she didn't speak to me about it and seemed to be friendly to me. She would even call me and ask how I'm feeling etc. around and after the due date, so she seemed to want to be involved. The reason why I described this is that my DH thought that could have been the reason why she behaved the way she did after our baby's birth (see below). This and the fact that we asked everybody not to kiss DS for the first two months (for his own good!). DH said that MIL thought we had "too many rules" (we literally only had one in the end). Also, she did kiss DS defiantly in front of DH during one of her first visits...

Fast forward to the day after we brought our baby home. My parents in law came to see him. They brought a gift, sat down and waited for DH to bring them cups of tea, biscuits.. They didn't bring food or even ask if we needed help. The apartment was a mess because I laboured at home for hours and after we were rushed to the hospital DH didn't have much time to tidy. I was sitting on the couch holding our son. They held him, took pictures and just sat on the couches. I told them about the labour and C-section (it was pretty traumatic so I got a bit upset and teary). DH said he'll need to go to the supermarket as we needed some food. His father started saying something that they could go to the supermarket for us, but his mother literally nearly snapped at him and said that they need to go/get on the road or something like that. She was quite cold - thinking about it I'm still quite taken back at how cold she was. (She did something similar a couple of weeks later where FIL asked DH how he is and she snapped and said "he's fine"). After that she didn't check in with us for a good few days until DH called her and confronted her and said that she promised to help. (I think she said "Ah you know, I say a lot of things" or something like that). She was really upset about DH confronting her like this to the point that she called DH's brother and said she's never been so angry with DH. Eventually it was agreed that she'd cook us a certain meal and bring it once a week, but then that stopped after a short time. Ever since then she just wiggles out of everything eventually and when DH says something to her she comes up with excuses. She came maybe twice and helped by cleaning our bathroom. When our son was 2 months old after DH said something to her, she sent a voice message saying they we're into our third month now and we don't really need her help anymore and that she'd just like to come for a chat and a cup of tea. She came for a chat and a cup of tea for some time every fortnight or so and I met her either in the local shopping centre or at our place. I prefer to meet her at the shopping centre because the last time she came here, she didn't even wash her cup and left it at the sink with her biscuit wrapper for me to clean. She's supposed to come every fortnight again from January onwards, but I don't really want to be having cups of tea and chats with her tbh. I actually recently texted her and asked her myself for the first time whether she could look after/take DS for a walk for like 2 hours when she comes every fortnight. She said she would, but I don't know how long that'll last.. I'm just tired of this. She always says things like "I care about you" etc., but there isn't much to show for it. I'm a tired FTM, and I also have postpartum thyroiditis and some other health issues - I just need a hand. Don't get me wrong, I know that nobody has to help us, but I'm just fed up with her behaviour. It's just promises promises and then nothing. She promised all this stuff when I was pregnant and then nothing, then she even suggested she'll help me move things around in our living room to make more space and never mentioned it again. Even before DS was born she agreed to clean our second hand buggy (they have a house so have space to dry it, whereas we live in an apartment) and when time came for her and FIL to bring it over to us DH asked her if she cleaned it, she said she forgot and got annoyed at him after which she very grumpily cleaned the pram. It seems to be always like that - she promises something and then expects us to forget about it and act like she never promised it... I don't really believe any word she says now. She always says these things and then doesn't follow up and expects us to forget about it.

She was never very welcoming when we came to visit and also likes to talk about her problems a lot. I often found some things that she did quite frustrating, but I could kind of put up with them. We would always get along and we still get along now, but I just feel so hurt and annoyed because of the way she's been since our son was born. DH and I feel that she's not even interested enough in her grandson.. Surely she should want to spend more time with him? And again, I know nobody is obliged to help us, not even family, but it's sad that we can't count on family for a bit of help when we need it. My own family is in no way perfect, but my mum did come for some weekends to give us a hand after our baby was born even though she lives further away and works full time. My MIL doesn't work and lives closer. I'm just so tired of this situation. Was/is anyone in a similar situation and do you have any advice on how to handle this? I've gotten to a point that I just feel irritated when I even think about her and I obviously don't want to feel this way. I wish I could just accept this and not care about it...

OP posts:
Yankadoodledoo · 16/12/2024 09:20

Your husband should have cleaned and sorted food while you were in hospital, not expected his mum to do it. I think you’ve taken the offers of help incorrectly. Also your husband is a bit of a cheeky bastard expecting his mum to cook for him every week.

Pensionswew · 16/12/2024 09:27

It is your husbands responsibility to clean, shop, make meals.
Not your MIL's.

You have a lazy husband.
You need to sort yourselves out.
This is not your MIL's job to do.
Best of luck.

Tourmalines · 16/12/2024 09:29

I don’t understand how 2 adults could have had such a messy apartment just because you had a few hours of labour at home. I mean how messy are you talking about ? How come you both weren’t keeping the apartment tidy before your labour ? It wasn’t like you had lots of kids running around everywhere . And why didn’t your husband tidy up while you were in hospital? Jesus, then you expected the grandmother to pick up after you both . What CFS you both are .

Mylovelygreendress · 16/12/2024 09:35

I can’t believe you expected your MIL to clean your bathroom ! If you weren’t able , why didn’t your DH ?

Cornishskies · 16/12/2024 09:38

I would really love to hear this from the MIL perspective !
Also I love my MIL , we have a long and close relationship but there’s no way I’d expect or want her to be cleaning my bathroom or be annoyed that I had to wash up her cup after she’s visited. I think you are expecting way too much.

Yankadoodledoo · 16/12/2024 09:42

Your husband thinks housekeeping is a woman’s job, and when you were out of action he expected his mum to do it. And so did you.

You both owe her an apology for treating her like a skivvy.

SallyWD · 16/12/2024 09:47

Mylovelygreendress · 16/12/2024 09:35

I can’t believe you expected your MIL to clean your bathroom ! If you weren’t able , why didn’t your DH ?

Exactly

gotmychristmasmiracle · 16/12/2024 10:03

It's a hard slog, shame she said she would do all this stuff and then just casually forgot about all. My mum and MIL both did similar things. Best just to rely on yourself and set your boundaries, none of this coming over for a chat being waited on. If MIL wants to come over make sure DH is there to facilitate her needs and you get out for a breather and maybe see a friend etc. we went into lockdown when my little one turned one and it that sorted out both problems.

WhyDoesDenisNotRhymeWithPenis · 16/12/2024 10:07

Surely she should want to spend more time with him?

She asked to call in for tea and conversation but you want her washing up her cup and cleaning your toilet.
The mind boggles.
If you and your husband are struggling so much with basic chores, pay for cleaner or cook.

Yankadoodledoo · 16/12/2024 10:17

When our son was 2 months old after DH said something to her, she sent a voice message saying they we're into our third month now and we don't really need her help anymore and that she'd just like to come for a chat and a cup of tea

It’s you that’s had a baby, not your pathetic lazy husband. And you shouldn’t need help after three months. You seem to support the idea mil should be his lacky and clean your bathroom! Does he treat you the same way?

What sort of man expects his mum to heave furniture around? Why hasn’t he done it? You’re going to have problems with this lazy entitled man I think.

Poor mil.

flowergirl2020 · 16/12/2024 10:27

Just crack on with your life. It doesn't sound like the help you are expecting is something reliable so you just need to sort between yourselves or perhaps get help from people who are willing and consistent if that is what you want. However, I say this as an older IVF mum who therefore has older parents (grandparents) who I don't feel I should expect the same from as my younger Mum friends... it's best not to rely too much on others as things can happen. People can get unwell, work change etc. You will find that that generation can be resistant to the developments in looking after kids (kissing/RSV, safe sleep, weaning etc) my own Mum was a pain in the backside also... it doesn't sound seen the withdrawal of help is related to her not being given free reign with the baby. You just need to decide what matters most; her help at any cost, or raising your baby the way you both choose. You may have to sacrifice the help if you want the latter.

Mischance · 16/12/2024 10:50

She's supposed to come every fortnight again from January onwards,
It's just promises promises and then nothing.

For heaven's sake! - this is ridiculous! She is the child's grandmother - treat her as such.

I have GC and every time one has been born (and indeed a for long after) I have popped in (not unannounced) and mucked in where I can. But ..... this was not an expectation; it was just what I did because I wanted to. It was my choice.

Your MIL is a free agent - she does not have to book in to provide chores and other services. Having a go at her because she does not live up to your expectations is out of order and will have brewed up trouble to come - why would you want to do that?

She has said very clearly that she wants to be grandma and come round for a cup of tea, rather than be booked in for specific chores. I think it's a blooming cheek on your part to have all these expectations and then give her grief because she does not live up to them. It seems to me that many of the "promises" are extracted from her rather than freely given. Why would you do that? It is almost as if you are setting her tests to pass.

Welcome her - smile - involve her in some fun. Don't give her a list of tasks. Don't get your OH to complain to her.

Neither my parents nor in-laws were even passingly involved in caring for my children or helping with household chores - they were people who appeared and showed love to my children - that was good enough for me, and I made no demands on them.

Relax - go with the flow - take on your responsibilities - don't make demands on others.

It is crazy that this needle is spoiling your first precious months with your baby. You do what you have to do and leave them be.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 16/12/2024 20:45

I'd be so embarrassed if my inlaws were cleaning my bathroom..

And why would your mother in law be in charge of cleaning up the mess from your home labour?

That's just gross and not her job.

She's not your maid. Of course FIL isn't expected to cook and clean for you.

Your DH and you need to grow up.

Guest100 · 16/12/2024 20:54

This is what happens when you have a baby. You will get all sorts of promises of help that never happen. The grandparents come and visit and will just sit there asking for something while you wait on them after having surgery.

I think you need to get Dh to facilitate his parents seeing their grandchild. He needs to organise it, and be home.

strawberry2017 · 16/12/2024 21:45

She's repeatedly shown you exactly who she is when will you believe her?
Stop trying, stop expecting. She's never going to give you what you want or need.

TammyJones · 18/12/2024 06:09

gotmychristmasmiracle · 16/12/2024 10:03

It's a hard slog, shame she said she would do all this stuff and then just casually forgot about all. My mum and MIL both did similar things. Best just to rely on yourself and set your boundaries, none of this coming over for a chat being waited on. If MIL wants to come over make sure DH is there to facilitate her needs and you get out for a breather and maybe see a friend etc. we went into lockdown when my little one turned one and it that sorted out both problems.

Agree
Boundaries
Can't be doing with false promises
People just do it to sound good.
Rely on yourself and enjoy your child.

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