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What do I do about Christmas?

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SnappyLemur · 15/12/2024 18:21

I am a recent divorcee and have recently got back with my ex-partner from 20 years ago that I dated for eight years and lived with for seven years. We split up as I was going through a period of poor mental health due to my only sibling dying from a genetic illness. He really wanted to try again back then but I later started dating the man who became my husband and father of my children. Looking back, I felt my ex-husband manipulated the situation and taunted my ex-partner. My ex-partner has remained mostly single for the past 20 years and three years after we split, he was diagnosed with cancer and whilst he thankfully made a full recovery the treatment left him infertile. He has no children of his own.
After separating from my husband, I bumped into my ex-partner in the supermarket and after much persuasion on my part he reluctantly agreed to meet me for a drink. We chatted and got on well and soon started seeing each other at least a couple of times a week. He made it very clear he only wanted friendship, when I tried suggesting a weekend away whilst my children were with their dad. He said that he really liked me a friend but couldn’t give me anything more as I gave his future to another man. He said lets just see where it goes as he might change his mind in time. I was taken aback and upset but accepted that he was just protecting himself. I still see him most weekends, but he seemed to have no desire to meet my three children or spend time with me when they are at home with me. I asked him if he would like to come to my house for Christmas and after some consideration, he accepted asking what to buy my children without going over the top. I am hoping that spending time with all of us might make him more interested.
Last week my children invited my ex-husband to come to my house on Christmas day and open presents in the morning and have lunch with them. He messaged me and I found it hard to say no seeing as our children had asked him. He then asked if his brother, my former sister-in-law and nice could come in the afternoon to give the children their presents. My ex-husband is likely to make comments to try and wind up my ex partner and could potentially make the day very uncomfortable. I feel that my children’s lack of consulting me has taken over a Christmas that I wanted to spend trying to bond with my ex-partner.
I told my ex-partner what had happened, and I received a text message earlier today saying he will no longer to be coming to mine for Christmas. He said he didn’t want to be there if my ex-husband was there and it is easiest if he stays away so there is not a sour atmosphere. When I asked him what he would be doing instead, he said watching TV and perhaps do some admin work for his business. I am really upset as my ex-husband is now getting in the way of the future I want to try for. What should I do?

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Alifemadelessordinary · 15/12/2024 18:23

How old are your children OP?

category12 · 15/12/2024 18:36

Crikey, I feel like you're almost forcing this guy into a relationship.

Doesn't that put you off? Surely someone who is keen on you would be a better bet for a relationship and for your mental health instead of trying to make something with Mr Reluctant.

something2say · 15/12/2024 18:40

I would let Christmas go, enjoy the day and see the new man as soon as feasible afterwards. Don't be too pushy about it - it would have been a nice idea, but it is not happening so let it go. I think you need to be sensitive to the fact that the new man may feel he had a whole different life as a result of what you did so you can't expect him to suddenly be 100% on board.

category12 · 15/12/2024 18:43

I just think he's trying to punish you for your life choices - which is an incredibly shit basis for any kind of relationship.

Mickey79 · 15/12/2024 18:49

I’m finding it difficult to determine from your post whether you are in an actual relationship with ex partner or whether you are still in the friend zone. How old are the children that they are inviting their dad, your ex husband to spend Christmas Day at your house. They have overstepped and should not have done that.

Cannotorwillnot · 15/12/2024 18:49

You can invite your ex-partner round any time - it doesn’t have to be on Christmas Day, which your children want to spend with both their parents (though they should have asked you before inviting their father).

It sounds as if you are putting too much pressure on ex-partner anyway. Back off a bit and give him more space or he will feel you are railroading him. Invite him round for New Year, or just an ordinary meal.

SnappyLemur · 15/12/2024 18:53

category12 · 15/12/2024 18:43

I just think he's trying to punish you for your life choices - which is an incredibly shit basis for any kind of relationship.

I don't think he wants to punish me. I think he would start would be more enthusiastic to start something more than friendship if my ex-husband wasn't still on the scene because of the children. My ex-husband can be manipulative and vile towards people he doesn't like and would deliberately antagonise during any situation they were both at.
He has suggested we go to dance classes together as he knows I like strictly so he must enjoy spending time with me.

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TheSilkWorm · 15/12/2024 18:53

Several different issues
1- don't have your ex husband over for Christmas if you don't want him. The fact that the kids invited him doesn't mean you have to agree
2- why did your children invite their father without asking you first? how old are they? Old enough to know better?
3- this guy doesn't want to meet your kids. He's not ready for the kind of relationship you want. Can't you keep it separate from your kids for a while?
4- are you actually in a relationship with the ex or just trying to be in one? Are you sleeping together?

SnappyLemur · 15/12/2024 18:54

Mickey79 · 15/12/2024 18:49

I’m finding it difficult to determine from your post whether you are in an actual relationship with ex partner or whether you are still in the friend zone. How old are the children that they are inviting their dad, your ex husband to spend Christmas Day at your house. They have overstepped and should not have done that.

Still in the friend zone but I would like more as he is a kind and funny man.

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TheSilkWorm · 15/12/2024 18:55

He's not interested is he? I think you're at risk of embarrassing yourself here

SnappyLemur · 15/12/2024 18:56

TheSilkWorm · 15/12/2024 18:53

Several different issues
1- don't have your ex husband over for Christmas if you don't want him. The fact that the kids invited him doesn't mean you have to agree
2- why did your children invite their father without asking you first? how old are they? Old enough to know better?
3- this guy doesn't want to meet your kids. He's not ready for the kind of relationship you want. Can't you keep it separate from your kids for a while?
4- are you actually in a relationship with the ex or just trying to be in one? Are you sleeping together?

I invited him to stay when my children were at their dad's but he politely declined. We are getting on really well but he won't step out of the friendzone. I think it is because I have hurt him in the past.

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SnappyLemur · 15/12/2024 18:57

Cannotorwillnot · 15/12/2024 18:49

You can invite your ex-partner round any time - it doesn’t have to be on Christmas Day, which your children want to spend with both their parents (though they should have asked you before inviting their father).

It sounds as if you are putting too much pressure on ex-partner anyway. Back off a bit and give him more space or he will feel you are railroading him. Invite him round for New Year, or just an ordinary meal.

I invited him for Christmas to show him how much he meant to me. I thought it would send out a clear message to my him that I have strong feelings for him.

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RavenclawLuna · 15/12/2024 18:59

You're coming off way too pushy OP. It sounds like the ex partner just wants to be friends and you are pushing the situation.

MisterPNumber23 · 15/12/2024 19:00

SnappyLemur · 15/12/2024 18:57

I invited him for Christmas to show him how much he meant to me. I thought it would send out a clear message to my him that I have strong feelings for him.

How old are your children?

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