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Me (F24) got drunk at firm party as an intern and let also very drunk supervisior (30-35 y/o) in my hotel room whilst I have a bf of 4 years

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kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:12

I’m posting here because I’ve told this story around five friends and (half the story) my parents, but am now looking for a neutral opinion from people that are not naturally on my side because they’re friends & family.

I‘m a student an interned in one of my country’s most recognised firms. Two weeks in to the internship, there was a firm summer party. During the internship I had a „buddy“ that was supposed to take care of me and give tasks to me etc., however until the summer party I had only talked to him twice (first time: I was introduced, second time: I asked for work). This summer party was outside my hometown where I live together with my boyfriend of 4 years. I rarely drink, but if I do (3-4 times a year max.) I drink too much. If my bf is around (he never drinks), it is not an issue. If he’s not around, I usually don’t want to drink at all. At this summer party everyone got extremely drunk. People were literally smashing their glasses and one man (50+) threw up in the bus that took us to the venue. I did not have any drinks until an hour before the party venue closed. At that point I was like: don’t be like that, just enjoy yourself, these are the people you look up to careerwise and they do it too.
So, I drank and partied. At around 1 am we all (meaning around 100 people) had to leave the venue and went downtown. The boss of this crazy company wanted to party on and took circa 30 of us to a bar. We stayed there until 03:30am. Some people left because they were really drunk (they all started drinking around noon, I only started late in the evening). I was alright at that time but already drunk. When I drink, it’s very hard for me to stop and just go home. So when I saw my „buddy“/supervisior go to another bar with a group of girls he met in front of that other bar (meaning they were strangers), I asked to join. I noticed that he really wanted to party on and that somehow caught my interest. I was curious what he’s like and how the nights gonna go (but not in a romantic sense at all!). So, we went to a second bar close to my hotel. We stayed until 5am and partied with strangers and I once saw him hit on a girl (he literally picked her up and carried her through the bar, that was a bit much). My supervisior and I got along and I was trying to talk to him about work and studies. He didn’t really care, he was all about drinking. I bought a drink for myself but after that drink he started to buy drinks for me without really asking beforehand. He was just like: let’s get pissed. At this point everything felt like it was fun, however, I should’ve just left, because he was seemingly irresponsible. I joked about how it was not okay that he is partying with me. But, that’s 100% on me, I stayed even though I personally knew this was all wrong. This bar/club closed at 5am. We decided on going to a third location because we didn’t want to end the night. That was stupid (like all of this). And to me all this felt surreal. Because this guy was literally my supervisor in this „top tier“ firm. I need point out that never ever in my life I would go on such a party journey with a random guy or male friend. I did this, because I was amazed by this firm and the people working there. But I am not innocent: I am a very good looking woman and of course I wanted his attention for my looks and also my „fun personality“, that I was trying to show. When I told him that I found this not appropriate he was like: haha we‘re only buddies, this is platonic/normal socialising and nothing is going on.

At this third bar/club I was extremely drunk. He again got a drink but I definitely didn’t finish it because my body was just shutting down. We hung around there and danced. I cannot recall him dancing inappropriately with me, but of course, there is a slight chance this happened because I was so drunk. I only remember he once touched my belly in a weird way when I sat down. It made me uncomfortable and I think I moved away from him. Since we were both so drunk, there was not much conversation between us. But I am certain that I was way to nice to him, meaning that I flirted with him. Not because I was sexually attracted, but because I was excited and really wanted him to like and adore me. That’s wrong, I know.

Well, we left the last place when it was already light outside. He was like: I’ll take you to your hotel with a taxi. That was fine for me. Then he also said he wanted to come to me room to shower because he was meeting friends in the morning. He knew I had a boyfriend and therefore said he would not lay in bed with me but sleep on the floor for an hour. Again, at this point I should’ve screamed and told him to leave me. But I played it down and was like: whatever, nothing is going to happen. I love my boyfriend with all my heart and do not want to have sex with other man (that’s how it is). We had a coffee at the hotel bar. Because they were already open, I must have been around 7am or so. I can’t remember much of what the situation was like in the hotel lobby. I definitely didn’t finish this coffee because I was starting to fall asleep whilst sitting. I am terrified that he hugged or touched me whilst in the hotel lobby. I cannot remember if something like this happened. But in general I do have proper recollection of the night so I guess I must remember if something like this happened.

A couple minutes (or like half an hour?) later we went to my room and I felt very ashamed on the way there and was not excited at all. But still I was super drunk and not capable of telling him to leave. I only remember I had trouble opening the room with the key card because I was too drunk to find the lock. I guess he opened it then.

I straight went to bed and only took of my shoes. I took the blanked and covered myself and fell asleep in like 2 seconds. I turned by back to the bathroom. He showered in this bathroom. When he was done, I was awake and remember him getting a towel from the room whilst wearing boxer shorts. He put a shirt on and layed next to me next but I cannot remember him asking me if that’s okay. But I guess I consented by not asking him to leave or lay on the ground or whatever.

I wanted to sleep, he wanted to talk. He put on very very loud rap music for some reason and was walking around the room. When talking things got way too intimate for me. I get sick to my stomach now thinking about how he looked me into the eyes. He told me I look sad because I pouted my lips and also told me how amazing my eyes are. I asked him whether I should talke an PhD after uni and what he voted for (very weird, yes). I am telling you this because I want to show I was not trying to provoke a sexual situation. However, he said thinks like: all guys in the firm think you’re hot. Also he asked me if there’s something I don’t like about my bf. I responded that we are a happy couple and I love him, but we sometimes have dissenting opinions on politics. Not more. But of course it was wrong to say something that’s negative about my bf. This talking and looking in his face was the worse part for me. What I consider flirty and disgusting of me is, that I told him about my lip fillers and wanting to get more. Ugh. He also told me random stuff like that he went to a prostitute before. This was not dirty talk, but I have to admit this was a flirty and stupid conversation. Still, the goal of me was not to get him horny or anything, I was just so drunk and wanted to be desired and seem like it’s hard to resist me, while I stay untouchable. This was so dangerous. Yes, I was untouchable in a practical sense, but not untouchable over all because I let him into my private sphere.

Well, I slept again and was like dizzy/half asleep all the time. Then I suddenly feel his hand touching my (dressed) butt. I immediately got loud and told him to get his hands of me. I literally said: My butt but belongs to my bf, he’s the only person allowed to touch it. Leave me!

After this happened I went into drama mode and he slowly decided to leave. He didn’t leave right away, but stayed for a few more minutes. But I guess after I was being very clear for the first time in this night he realised there’s no chance of sleeping with me. I nearly cried and told him my relationship is destroyed now and that I have to break up when I’m home because I let this bad party night and the drinking happening. He briefly replied nothing at all happened between us and I should calm down. He also said he’ll tell his best friend at work about this because he’ll meet him for breakfast now. He finally left the room and I was still panicking, but decided to sleep to get the alcohol out of my system. I woke up and called my bf. I was hyperventilating and in panic and said it was a horrible night. He was like: did you cheat? I said: no. No kissing, no groping, no sex. This guy just really wanted to get me to do something and I only stopped him last minute. On the phone I did not tell him about the hotel room thing. I checked out at the reception after the phone call with him and traveled back to my hometown (9+ hours travel). I was trying to contact my bf constantly but he blocked me for calls etc, he only came home at 2am in the night. He told me he was so angry he didn’t want to see me. I sent him like 100 messages telling him we need to talk. Well, when he came home he told me he will break up with if I get drunk in such an environment again. Fair point, I understand that. Because he ignored me from 11am until 2am the next day I was very scared to tell him this whole story. He said he doesn’t care, he only wants to know if I cheated. I did not. My huge problem is know: if inappropriate behaviour (like what I let happen that night) is considered cheating is a question that’s up to one’s personal views. To me it was not cheating. I told him I flirted and acted like a slut (pretty sure this guy thought I’m really attracted to him bc I basically followed him habt night) but clearly drew the line when he touched my butt. The detail, that his attempt to touch me happened in the hotel room, I left out. I leave the hotel room part out because this could cause endless speculations on my boyfriend side. He told me like 20 times that he really trusts me that I didn’t cheat, but still, I think I put myself in such a dangerous situation, that he would be very very worried.

This happened almost 5 months ago. I am panicking since then and tried to tell my boyfriend everything except the part of him entering my room. My boyfriend said that he trust me and he loves me with all my heart, and he knows that this never happened before and will never happen again. And this is also how it is. This will never ever happen again and I will never put myself in such as situation especially in and work environment. It was my first time working in such a firm and I was insecure and overwhelmed all at once.

My big question is now: Am I just putting myself in the position of a victim, even though I am manipulative and simply a liar? What I can definitely say is this all did not happen because of any romantic feelings from my side. My only thought that night was: I want to party and I want to be admired but I don’t want to be touched or whatever. Of course I felt guilty and bad drinking and staying out on my own, but why is being super, super drunk the consequences were not clear to me. But this is how it is when alcohol is involved. The other question I have is: is it legitimate, that I didn’t tell him every detail of the night, only in order to protect our relationship and myself? Or again, is this just selfish? We are so in love and never doubted our love. I can imagine that he would forgive me for letting him into my hotel room since nothing happened in the end. But I know that this could also need to trust issues and him becoming so angry at me for keeping this for five months that we have to break up.

Just yesterday he told me he wants to become old with me and we are pretty certain that we will Marie pumped. This is the worst thing I have done in my life and I feel like is literally over.

This is so hard for you that I can barely work at the moment. In the next weeks I’ll see a psychologist and ask her about how to deal with lying about one part of the night of if I just let him everything and risks our relationship. Of course my boyfriend notices that I am in panic a lot of the time pumped he only said I should calm down and he doesn’t understand me being so upset, because for him it counts that I didn’t cheat.

All of my friends told me that this was a big fuck up, but it would only be a lesson to me. What is clear is that I will never touch alcohol again if I am on my own. If I am with him, I will either drink nothing or the amount that is socially appropriate at like a dinner or so. My friends all know him and me and they know how much we are in love they know we. They also know I did this from being insecure and stressed in the situation and not from wanting to hard I’m off all because I’m looking for other guys. I have never had an eye for other guys in my life before. By the way, I continue to internship for six weeks. There was no interaction with the supervisor after the incident and I didn’t even look him in the eye once. I was offered a job after the internship but I declined because I definitely do not want to send any signals that I’m interested in working with this guy again.

Again, I take 100% guilt on me for this. Alcohol is not an excuse. I should never have decided to go to a bar with him on my own pump. That was the point where I ultimately fucked up. I should’ve known that most guys are not interested in my personality or in the work, but only in getting me so drunk that we might make out or whatever. But to be honest, I never thought this could happen and I was convinced that this guy may draw a line but he clearly had no boundaries himself. What hurts me a lot is the fact that I can not be sure what happened in every detail because I was so drunk. For example I am very scared that this guy took photos of meanwhile I was passed out on the bed. Also, what if he touched me in one of the bars and I just simply can’t remember? I’m not sure about this, because I do have general recollection of the night, but I can’t be 100% sure because of the intoxication.

This is all over the place and a very long story. I am sorry. What are your thoughts on this? Am I a liar and a cheater (that’s how I feel) or is it possible to continue the relationship with what I told my boyfriend until now? Ultimately, I will see what my psychologist says and then talk to my boyfriend again probably.

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FeelingJolly · 04/12/2024 17:17

I am not a victim blamer.

I like to always give the benefit of the doubt but I'm sorry, you messed up here

You knew tou cannot be trusted around drink. You asked to go with him despite knowing you shouldn't. You wanted him to like you.

Tou do all these things then get mad at him for having no boundaries??

I think you BOTH acted unprofessionally

And if you try and put all this on him to save your job and relationship you should be ashamed because he didn't do anything illegal or wrong,

MichaelaJournee · 04/12/2024 17:19

Your supervisor / buddy sounds like a massive creep.

Other than drinking too much, you didn't do anything wrong. Your bf also doesn't care as he knows you didn't cheat, so think you're fine.

I would flag it with the company where you interned though as your supervisor sounds like a predator in all honesty

Edited to add: as someone who binge drank all through her twenties and got into similar situations, I honestly think you shouldn't drink at all now. You don't have an off switch - totally get it as I am the same. I am now teetotal as I know I can't drink sensibly

Scutterbug · 04/12/2024 17:19

Bloody hell that was long.

You both behaved unprofessionally by getting so drunk.

Nothing actually happened between you though so I don’t know why you are obsessing so much over it! Move on!

ThianWinter · 04/12/2024 17:23

You didn't cheat on your boyfriend. You got very drunk and your supervisor tried to take advantage of you. Don't get so drunk you don't know what you're doing.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 04/12/2024 17:23

Sorry, that’s much too long to wade through.

kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:24

I asked other young people working at the firm after this happened about him and they told me he is known for drinking too much alcohol and for posting inappropriate photos of stranger women in a firm group chat.

That he is a creep does not take the guilt away from me. I am so angry at myself because I put the relationship with the man I want to marry and have been with since I am 20 at risk.

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Isthereanypointtoallthis · 04/12/2024 17:25

Well I'm glad to hear you turned down a job at this firm.
The employees sound like a load of unprofessional, drunken idiots and your " supervisor a first class creep.
You are well out of it.

kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:26

I am not mad at him, I don’t care about him.

It is so unbelievably painful that I kind of ended my life (my relationship) through this one time binge drinking on my own

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Namechangeobviously2024 · 04/12/2024 17:27

The guilt for what? Nothing happened. Five months ago. Everyone needs to calm down. (The supervisor does sound creepy though)

MichaelaJournee · 04/12/2024 17:29

kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:26

I am not mad at him, I don’t care about him.

It is so unbelievably painful that I kind of ended my life (my relationship) through this one time binge drinking on my own

Edited

With kindness, I think you're being too dramatic here. Your bf isn't upset with you. You didn't cheat. Even if he was he'd be wrong and a massive twat.

Also, your relationship could end any time (sorry and God forbid etc). That would not end your life.

SmalllChange · 04/12/2024 17:30

I got to the '100 messages' and honestly couldn't read anymore.

But this happened last Summer, yes?

It's time to move on and obviously never touch alcohol again. I don't know why you would anyway, since you said when you do you drink far too much.

kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:31

Thank you so much for understanding. That’s an accurate description of me when drinking.

I actually hate drinking and only do it when I am insecure at parties. From this horrible night I learned that I just cannot handle alcohol and that I drink it for the wrongs reasons.

Will definitely stop, the consequences are just not tolerable.

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EmmaMaria · 04/12/2024 17:32

I pretty much lost the will to live reading that wall.

Sorry - you both acted unprofessionally, and you were no more innocent of anything than him. You absolutely knew that you were leading him on - and he was leading you on. You went out of your way to continue spending time with him despite (or because of) you being very drunk. You were so very lucky that it didn't get a lot worse. And I am not saying that to victim blame, but he backed off - many very drunk men wouldn't have. Whatever his faults, he acted as a good guy.

Learn the lesson - never do this again. then forget it and move on, because every young person has done something bloody stupid, so you really aren't unique in that!

SmalllChange · 04/12/2024 17:32

Oh and I remember now reading something about your 'butt belongs to your boyfriend'?

It doesn't, it belongs to you.

Always has and always will.

I know it's not the point of the thread, but it's something you should remember.

kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:33

Oh I understand you all posting this text is way too long. Yes, it is. But I get sooo upset.

Yes, happened in June.

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ThianWinter · 04/12/2024 17:34

Have you c&p'd this from somewhere else? The formatting is strange.
Why are you still obsessing about something that happened so long ago? Is it because the season of work parties is upon us? Are you nervous that you might get drunk and do something similar?

AlexaSetATimer · 04/12/2024 17:36

kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:26

I am not mad at him, I don’t care about him.

It is so unbelievably painful that I kind of ended my life (my relationship) through this one time binge drinking on my own

Edited

You are so over the top and dramatic. Your OP is also ridiculously over detailed. There's no need.

Nothing happened. You didn't cheat. Get a fucking grip of yourself, move on, it was months ago and you are nowhere near that guy now, it's all in the past. Enjoy your current relationship and be aware that you can't drink to that extent again.

You will push your boyfriend away if you can't calm the fuck down and relax and enjoy life.

kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:38

ThianWinter · 04/12/2024 17:34

Have you c&p'd this from somewhere else? The formatting is strange.
Why are you still obsessing about something that happened so long ago? Is it because the season of work parties is upon us? Are you nervous that you might get drunk and do something similar?

No I typed it on my phone in the browser.

I have a lot of stress with uni tasks at the moment and am planning christmas with my boyfriends family atm. Can’t wrap my head around being able to be a part of that happy family even though I made this mad mistake.

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kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:39

AlexaSetATimer · 04/12/2024 17:36

You are so over the top and dramatic. Your OP is also ridiculously over detailed. There's no need.

Nothing happened. You didn't cheat. Get a fucking grip of yourself, move on, it was months ago and you are nowhere near that guy now, it's all in the past. Enjoy your current relationship and be aware that you can't drink to that extent again.

You will push your boyfriend away if you can't calm the fuck down and relax and enjoy life.

Thank you for being so honest and not trying to sound overly friendly

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tothelefttotheleft · 04/12/2024 17:43

MemorableTrenchcoat · 04/12/2024 17:23

Sorry, that’s much too long to wade through.

Then don't post and read something else.

MounjaroUser · 04/12/2024 17:43

How long were you at the company for?

If he's posting photos of unconscious women on the work's group chat it's only a matter of time before he's hung out to dry.

And yes, stop drinking, and also stop wanting randomers to think you're beautiful. Have a bit of self-worth for heaven's sake. Who cares what he thinks of you?

kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:43

FeelingJolly · 04/12/2024 17:17

I am not a victim blamer.

I like to always give the benefit of the doubt but I'm sorry, you messed up here

You knew tou cannot be trusted around drink. You asked to go with him despite knowing you shouldn't. You wanted him to like you.

Tou do all these things then get mad at him for having no boundaries??

I think you BOTH acted unprofessionally

And if you try and put all this on him to save your job and relationship you should be ashamed because he didn't do anything illegal or wrong,

I accidentally posted what I wanted to reply to you somewhere in the thread.

I 100% messed up! I am not mad at him, I am extremely mad at myself. I don’t care about this guy at all.

Me being so upset is about the question: Is this forgivable in any sense? My bf is the victim here

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CatamaranViper · 04/12/2024 17:44

Tbh, it sounds like you were showing interest somewhat by following him from bar to bar, drinking drinks he bought you and allowing him to take you back to the hotel and in your room. He does sound creepy and he definitely tried to take advantage of you when he touched your bum while asleep. He also stopped when you said no and left. It could have been so, so much worse.

It's good you've recognised your lack of control around alcohol and are taking steps to take control. We all (well, many of us) want to be desired. I get that you really wanted to impress this guy and have him think "wow, this intern is not only beautiful but also intelligent, funny and brilliant. She'll definitely go far", but the reality is he just thought you were a low consequence shag.

You can't change what happened, only how you deal with similar situations going forward. Focus on you, not your BF here. How can you protect yourself from creeps? How can you spot creeps and creepy behaviours?

MemorableTrenchcoat · 04/12/2024 17:45

tothelefttotheleft · 04/12/2024 17:43

Then don't post and read something else.

Nothing wrong with pointing out the post is unnecessarily long. I’m not the only one to have done so.

SmalllChange · 04/12/2024 17:46

kayali06 · 04/12/2024 17:43

I accidentally posted what I wanted to reply to you somewhere in the thread.

I 100% messed up! I am not mad at him, I am extremely mad at myself. I don’t care about this guy at all.

Me being so upset is about the question: Is this forgivable in any sense? My bf is the victim here

Me being so upset is about the question: Is this forgivable in any sense? My bf is the victim here

And has the 'victim' forgiven you?

Because that's all that matters, not all the amateur dramatics.

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