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Help! Should I say something?

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shutuporsaysomething · 27/11/2024 14:32

Name changed for this. I am after some advice about my friend and I’ll try and keep it as brief as possible. She lost her DH a year ago after a long illness. Both mid forties and they have two teenage DDs. It was incredibly sad and traumatic and she was an absolute hero in terms of caring for him and keeping everything going. She has also lost both parents very recently.

A few weeks after her DH died she was contacted by an ex boyfriend who she hadn’t seen for decades but they still have a mutual friend. Since then they have met every few weeks for a night in a hotel near to her home and call and text regularly. She told me about it early on and has confided in a few close friends but her DDs do not know. I have never met him. My reaction was initially good for her. I could see she needed some affection and intimacy and some time away from the daily grind. It seemed good for this to be with someone she already knew and trusted. She said she made it clear to him that she did not want any commitment or a relationship. They live a couple of hundred miles away from each other. He is currently living with the mother of his young children but apparently the relationship is over and has been for some time, he sleeps on the sofa and he intends to move out (she says she has had this confirmed by the mutual friend).

A few months on I am becoming increasingly concerned about him and I’m not sure whether I should say anything to my friend. He has recently been suspended from work following very serious allegations about his behaviour (possibly verging on criminal). He told my friend about this and she is outraged on his behalf and adamant that this is all untrue and the allegations are false . A couple of weeks ago she said he would clear his name but now apparently he is going to just hand in his notice, get a job in another sector and won’t need a reference. He has also told her that he going to leave the family home next year and rent a flat. My friend has relayed things he has said to her that she sees as sweet and loving and I think sound manipulative.

My feeling is that there are a number of red flags. The work allegations are horrific, and it bothers me that apparently he is fairly calm about the situation and is just planning to walk away. The other issue is my friend has money and owns a house and seems to be paying for everything. He has no money, no house and now no job, he is in his 50's (it was an age gap relationship when she was a teenager). He's also had a number of failed relationships over the years including other children he doesn't see. My friend seems to be romanticising this and he says things like no-one ever measured up to you.

I wouldn’t usually interfere unless she asked for advice and I’ve tried to just be supportive of her and listen, she talks about him a lot to me. I’m wondering if I really should say something and if so what? I don’t think it will go down at all well, she seems very enmeshed in this, it seems to be becoming more serious and I feel she is very vulnerable atm. Part of me feels like I am being cowardly by avoiding a difficult conversation. Equally last thing I want is to upset her or fall out and I am wondering if it will come to a natural end (which I have been thinking it would for the last 10 months). What would you do?

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Daleksatemyshed · 27/11/2024 16:42

I'm afraid that if you say anything Op you'll just lose her as a friend. He sounds awful but there's no way to make her see that at the moment, she's running away from the grief of losing her DH. I'd stay close in hope that she'll start to question this relationship and cut him off

Northernlassie123 · 27/11/2024 20:53

if it was a close friend Îd innocently question things / make remarks here and there Hopefully just plant little seeds in her mind til the next conversation. If it was a childhood friend I would just gently tell her i was a bit worried . I’m lucky to have two very close childhood friends. W’eve disagreed and argued on occasion over the 40 years we’ve been friends and its never caused a lasting rift.

Orchidacea · 27/11/2024 22:32

There are so many red flags here that I have to wonder about your friend's judgment in previous situations.

Has she been pretty level-headed in the past?

shutuporsaysomething · 28/11/2024 00:55

Thanks. Yes she has been level headed in the past although slightly bonkers at times in the best of ways but probably quite impetuous and she’s now lost her DH who was calm and steady and her counterpoint if you see what I mean .

@Daleksatemyshed is right and it’s running from grief. I think it’s partly what’s worrying me and making me want to say something because this unquestioning acceptance of what this man tells her is very out of character. She has always been savvy. She’s a really really good friend who I’ve known for years (but not since childhood) if she asked me what I thought I’d tell her but she hasn’t. I do ask questions about him and his situation in a (I think) non judgmental way.

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