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Need out but can't find courage or words

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Eyebagsandbingowings · 27/11/2024 13:56

Apologies - this might be an essay!...
My marriage has been all but over for the past 10 years. I got so sick of DH’s over inflated ego (self importance), insistence on gaining ‘respect’ by means other than giving respect to others, moods, ‘do as I say – not as I do’ attitude. His refusal to take responsibility for anything (as a father to our DC’s, partner, his own health after developing a chronic illness and bringing in an income to help towards household costs and mortgage) in the end rendered me accountable for everything and therefore taking the blame for everything. I suppose I enabled this by not setting boundaries.
In later years this was difficult as everything amplified into quite a toxic and emotionally abusive situation for me and the DC’s. DH is not from this country but has lived here in the UK since we met (30 years).
When things became unbearable I took solace in my work and practiced the ‘grey rock’ method whilst at home. This detachment became the norm and our lives became just an ‘existence’. DC’s retreated to their rooms and I ‘worked’ until late every evening to avoid having to walk on eggshells in our home. He had very few friends and spent most of his time on sofa for about 7 years.He rarely spoke to us but would spend hours on the phone to his family abroad.
Eventually, he began to talk about having been offered a job in his home country. I told him I thought he should go… because of this he didn’t leave. Fast forward another two years and he approached the idea again, this time I said nothing and he decided to go (to a job that never materialised).His only explanation to me was ‘I need to go for the sake of my mental and physical health’. I paid for his flight and he left with no money at all and lived with his parents for a while who supported him financially (albeit they both had dementia and he had access to their funds). He later moved to another nearby country to stay with a sibling and again did not work and was being supported financially and with a place to stay.
Meanwhile, back here, I had to retire early because of physical disability and am trying to pay all bills, mortgage and supporting two of my DC’s through university. I can no longer afford the house that is in our joint names. DH is now working in a low paid job and comes back whenever he wants (Xmas, Easter and this year in the summer) as if it is all OK and ‘normal’ to live in another country whilst I spend my time trying to process what happened and what next. He doesn’t ring two of the kids at all and has not supported them. He sometimes calls his son who is living in uni accommodation but this is sporadic.

My problem now is that his sibling is no longer willing to have him stay and DH has said he’ll ‘have to’ come home because he can’t afford to rent a place of his own. He seems to feel entitled to the financial support of others but cannot see that to live you have to pay your way! I have walked on eggshells to keep the peace for so long that I’m frightened of confrontation and not being able to explain why I cannot go back to living the way I was. He will not have a job to come back to and I imagine will just assume that it’s OK to not be earning as that is what he did for so many years before.
Life is far too short and all I want is my own space and freedom to live the rest of my life doing what I want to do (not what I have been conditioned to feel like I ought to do).I need all the money I have to be able to support myself and my kids until they are fully independent. I have taken a very part time job recently but still can’t keep up with the bills. It is unlikely that DH will ever have anything to help them with should they need it.He has no private pension and a few more years before retirement age. Because I have a small income from a workplace pension along with some money put aside for the now adult DC’s, I thought when he left that it was better to NOT go down the divorce route and, as long as he stayed away, I’d be financially better off. He has sent money twice in two years and in total it hasn’t even covered the extra expense of him being at home when he has decided to visit.

I know I have to tell him NOW that I don’t want him to come back – but I just can’t seem to articulate what I need to say, or find the courage to start the conversation – I know it will all end up with me taking the blame because he cannot accept responsibility or be accountable for his actions. WHAT SHOULD I SAY AND HOW?

I need to divorce him BUT over the last 16 years I have been the main earner and have inherited half of my parent’s house (rented out). I recently drew my workplace pension and the lump sum which I invested and have a low monthly income equivalent to the wages he is earning abroad. I’ve been paying the mortgage and supporting our 3 kids (now adults) at Uni and college. I won’t get another mortgage so need to hold onto everything I can turn into cash to buy a home for me, one of my DC’s (special needs) and with enough space for the other two DC’s to have somewhere to call home. I’d be really p*ssed off if I had to give away half the house equity, half the investment and half of my pension when I was the only one working for it! WILL THIS HAPPEN?

Any words of wisdom or encouragement gratefully received!

OP posts:
unsync · 27/11/2024 15:09

You need to get proper legal advice as your situation is complicated. The sooner you do it, the better. When you have all the information, you will be able to make an informed decision.

category12 · 27/11/2024 15:15

Yeah can't really advise financially, although I don't think inheritance is necessarily considered part of the marital pot.

And it seems like you've been living separately for a long time?

I wouldn't let him move back in if you can help it - get proper legal advice fast before he does. You'll be in a worse position if he's back in the house.

category12 · 27/11/2024 15:17

And don't worry about blame, he'll probably talk a whole lot of nonsense before you're done, but you have to look after your own interests no matter what he throws out there.

Eyebagsandbingowings · 27/11/2024 15:49

Thanks for the advice. I think legal advice is a good idea at this point. What my post probably doesn’t convey is how devalued I feel being treated like a meal ticket. Not functioning well at the moment and the anxiety is crippling. Avoiding contact with him because I can’t find the energy to deal with the conversation (he twists and blames) or the words I need to say…

OP posts:
Daleksatemyshed · 27/11/2024 16:00

For the conversation about divorce I'd tell the truth- he's been away for months and in that time you've realized that you don't love him and don't want to live with him again, that as he's never seen fit to provide any financial help to you or your DC you now don't intend to provide for him. I'd tell him before he comes back to the UK so your position is clear before he gets here.
Next find a bloody good lawyer Op because I'm afraid divorce is going to cost you a lot of your assets despite the fact he's not contributed

Daleksatemyshed · 27/11/2024 16:06

Cross posted Op, sorry that you feel devalued and like a meal ticket but that's because that's the truth,he's never pulled his weight and you've got used to that. I'm afraid this should have been addressed long ago but better late than never. Gather your courage together and make a start, he's not going to get any better

Eyebagsandbingowings · 27/11/2024 16:25

Daleksatemyshed · 27/11/2024 16:06

Cross posted Op, sorry that you feel devalued and like a meal ticket but that's because that's the truth,he's never pulled his weight and you've got used to that. I'm afraid this should have been addressed long ago but better late than never. Gather your courage together and make a start, he's not going to get any better

You hit the nail right on the head here!

OP posts:
maudelovesharold · 27/11/2024 16:28

How about something along the lines of:

Your long absence has given me time to think. I don’t want you to come back here. You must recognise that there’s no future for us as a couple or as a family. We’ve been living separate lives, even when you were here, and are married in name only. It’s beyond time to acknowledge that, so I am consulting a solicitor in order to file for divorce.

Rip off the plaster….it’ll be less painful in the long run.

olderbutwiser · 27/11/2024 16:34

This is all likely to be painful and difficult in the short term, and you may have to give him more than you feel he deserves, but after that you will be free of him forever.

Legal advice first, as above, so you know where you are financially.

What he says or thinks from now on are irrelevant. Don't listen to him, don't discuss anything with him, don't ask him anything. Just forge ahead to your future 100% free of the spectre of him.

Daleksatemyshed · 27/11/2024 16:59

@Eyebagsandbingowings you read a lot of posts on here from women who've somehow over time found themselves doing the childcare,housework and making the money and yet for years they've just accepted it, usually because they're just trying to keep a home together for their DC. Well, yours are adults now Op so nows the time to reclaim your life and dump the cocklodger.
It doesn't matter if he's home grown or an exotic foreign cocklodger time for him to go!

MerryTealLeader · 23/07/2025 19:49

I’m in a very similar boat. It’s fucking ghastly. No advice- just sending a hug x

cannyvalley · 23/07/2025 23:59

I’m so sorry to hear this. You sounds lovely and he sounds like an absolute arse- you deserve so much better!

Im not sure if I’m missing something obvious here, but do you have to divorce him and risk paying him loads of your money?

does he have the motivation to get legal advice and come after half the house if you just tell him to stay where he is? Or will he just whinge and stay where he is?

im wondering if there is a way to just dodge or deter him without the financial mess of divorce for now, at least until the kids are less dependant on you?

again- I might be missing the obvious here and apologise if so.

iamnotalemon · 24/07/2025 00:06

maudelovesharold · 27/11/2024 16:28

How about something along the lines of:

Your long absence has given me time to think. I don’t want you to come back here. You must recognise that there’s no future for us as a couple or as a family. We’ve been living separate lives, even when you were here, and are married in name only. It’s beyond time to acknowledge that, so I am consulting a solicitor in order to file for divorce.

Rip off the plaster….it’ll be less painful in the long run.

This is great but I’d be seeking legal advice before broaching the subject of divorce, just so you are armed with information x

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