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Help! SIL isolating brother

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HoppyToad · 14/11/2024 21:53

Hello, I’m at a loss and need advice. My brother has been with his wife (SIL) for over a decade, but she has never wanted to be involved with our family. Early on, she avoided us entirely and has often controlled access to their kids, even preventing us from seeing them after they were born. Over the years, we've walked on eggshells, faced insults, lent them money, and tried to make peace, even suggesting family therapy, which they rejected. My brother has said this is because SIL "reminded" him (he's got a terrible memory) that my parents had once kicked him out when he lived with them in his late twenties - they've never done this and she wouldn't get involved in the family even before this. It seems like a convenient, unfounded excuse.

Recently, my brother suggested a meeting to "clear the air." SIL spent two hours berating us, revealed she monitors all his communication with us, and after over a decade of holding back, I finally lost my cool, saying she treats the children like possessions (another issue for another day). Now they’ve completely cut us off, except for minimal communication around birthdays and Christmas where they will tell us what to get the children after we ask. We’ve also realised the children might not even be getting the gifts we send, as vouchers aren't being used and we no longer receive thank-yous, that others still get.

I’m genuinely worried about my brother, who seems controlled by SIL. I have no way to contact him without her being involved. Any advice on how to stay in contact with him or repair relations? Any advice on ensuring the children don't grow up thinking we didn't love them and try with them? Thank you

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TipsyJoker · 14/11/2024 22:11

If he has a workplace email, could you message him on that? Or if you know his workplace address, you could go along one day and wait for him to finish and ask to speak to him. Other option would be to write him an old fashioned letter.

OneBlackHeart · 14/11/2024 23:06

Old fashioned letter or visit him at work.

Tell him you want a relationship with him and the kids and accept he has the wife he had. Don't try to get him to leave her. But then tell him all you obverse and your concerns for him. Then just meet him for lunch or keep up the letters until he comes around.

If you are able to put him and the kids up then tell him that. He may be staying because he can't afford to leave and get somewhere big enough for him to still see his kids. He may be scared she will stop him seeing the kids. In which case he will never leave if he has nowhere to have his kids. And he may leave once he realises family court would give him contact as she can't prove he's a danger to the kids

FlowerBee62 · 14/11/2024 23:56

Tbh I wouldn't bother with him or his family anymore,there's no connection with the children after all this time so they won't be too bothered and his wife certainly isn't.He has a controller telling him what to do,if he were able to stand up to her then things might be different ,there's not a lot you can do other than be there for him if he decides he wants to come back into your life.

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