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Leaving husband

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MollyFitz · 05/11/2024 17:38

This is going to be a long one....

Husband came back from month away with work a totally different person, he was talking about all these topics and having all these realisations about how hard and toxic the world is for young women. He also confessed to some mild MH issues, told me a colleague he met there was an ex mental health nurse and she was helping him out with issues.

Between his changed behaviour, general demeanour and the way he talked about this other woman, rednflags started showing rapidly for me. I expressed my concern to him and was more or less dismissed as being paranoid and insecure because I'm 20 yrs her senior at 46 and perimenopausal.

Flash forward maybe 3 weeks and he come back from another work week away in her area, and I knew. I knew from the tone of his voice and the way he said 'love ya' that he cheated. Eventually I overcame my wanting to avoid finding the evidence I knew would be there and managed to get access to his phone. There it was in all it's glory... 'gosh I miss waking up next to you'
We didn't row nor did I cry at this point, my worst fear was realised.

That happened in mid Aug and we've been co-habiting since. It's been awful, we've a 6 year old. At first it was amicable and we were on the same page - marriage is over and we'll go our separate ways just before Christmas. Daughter and I moving to live with mum and sister until I coukd get us on our feet. But then he apparently changed his mind: he wants to work on the marriage, we can fix this, rebuild trust and he's sorry. No real remorse shown. Since then we've argued, shouted and screamed at each other a few times in front of daughter, I'm ashamed to say. During one of these fights I shouted for him to go away and leave me alone - he refused, said he's not giving up on us.

I took daughter away during the school holiday and I was a different person, reduced anxiety, sleeping better, smiling again, and relaxed. Daughter could be a child too, husband is very strict and quite controlling (military) so it was great to see her in her element.

Since being back my MH has suffered greatly, I'm still sure I want to leave and was aiming for Christmas however husband has started talking to daughter when I'm not there, telling her she won't see him very much when we leave, mummy doesn't love daddy any more and we're not going to be a family. He also tells me things like I won't be able to support her as a single mum, our lives aren't going to be better, I'm going to give our daughter lasting emotional trauma and psychological problems if we leave. He also talks about how all the financial tax increases are going to be detrimental to our lives.

Recently I found out, despite him professing his love for me, he has an online dating profile and it was very much active the week daughter and I were away.

I'm beginning to see how controlling and manipulative he's been for years, and how I've become incredibly isolated from everyone else I love.

I'm broken, utterly done in and on the floor. He's blown up my world and destroyed it, he was the love of my life and chose him over and above everything/one in my life. I'm unable to eat, I don't sleep well, am anxious all the time, and spend hours sobbing/crying when daughter is in bed.

He's gone away again and I've finally had enough, we need to leave before I breakdown completely. Family are 7 hours away but are coming to get us at the weekend.

My question is, how do we pack up the house and move while not making it traumatic for daughter? I know I'm being cowardly leaving this way but I haven't got it left in me to stay until Christmas or do it when he's here. I'm broken, he's broken me. I can't function and have been signed off work under stress but diagnosed with adjustment disorder😞

How do I protect daughter from the trauma of moving the way we are and just do this in general? I'm terrified of leaving despite knowing it's best all round.

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Wellbeige · 05/11/2024 17:44

oh wow. Good for you for not giving in.

my advice would be one day at a time. Just get through each task like it’s your job to do this.

it won’t always feel this raw and awful. Sending hugs

barbarahunter · 05/11/2024 17:48

I think you're doing the right thing in leaving while he is away, thank goodness you have family that are helping you. Maybe explain to your daughter in an age-appropriate way some outlines of a few facts, while reassuring her he loves her?
Good luck for your move, remember sentimental items and all documents, eg passports. Also, a note of warning, this probably won't be the last you hear from him, so be prepared to record all dealings with him, and do not agree to meet him alone.

cjcghana · 05/11/2024 17:48

Oh sweetheart. I feel your pain. One step at a time. You can do this xx

ACynicalDad · 05/11/2024 17:55

I can't help, but stay strong, you're making the right decision.

NoMumLeftBehindLiz · 05/11/2024 18:06

I would say just keep talking to her calmly about what is happening when you start packing. Ask her if she has any questions and really listen to her if she does. Seeing you calm and smiley will help her feel safe and secure despite the move. If she has any family members she particularly likes make sure they are front and centre of your plans (for my daughter it was her two cousins). Make sure you take all the teddies that make her feel comfortable and any other sentimental items she has. My daughter doesn't remember when we left (she was nearly 6 at the time and is 11 now) but she remembers it felt "normal" and I reckon that was probably down to me hiding all my nerves and putting on a confident exterior.

AlertCat · 05/11/2024 18:07

Just be honest in an age appropriate way. You and daddy can’t live together any more but you both still love her and she’ll see you both, but you more. Presumably she’s used to dad going away for extended periods already, so you could use that as a parallel and reassure her that you will always be there.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this and I hope your move to your family’s home goes well.

Patienceinshortsupply · 05/11/2024 18:12

At 6, she's going to adapt to change very quickly and you will be giving her a happy and stable home. Don't overthink it, the sooner you are both away from him the better. Talk about your new life because" Mummy just can't live with Daddy anymore, it makes her too sad". Keep it simple.

Coastallife36385 · 05/11/2024 18:18

You are doing the right thing for both of you, there is nothing cowardly about ot, quiet the opposite. Stay strong. The feeling of relief and improved mental health awaits - you both.

AcrossthePond55 · 05/11/2024 18:49

@MollyFitz

You are so doing the right thing in getting away as soon as you can and doing when he's gone. And you tell your DD "Sometimes mummies and daddies can't get along anymore. When that happens it's best if they don't live in the same house. But Mummy and Daddy both love you very much and you'll see Daddy often and talk to him on the phone".

If you think it would help her to pack her own special things, let her pack those, with help from you. Otherwise perhaps someone could take her out for the day/a few hours whilst the rest pack up.

We (BFF, me, and 2 teen boys with 2 pickups and 2 cars) packed up what my BFF wanted from her 3 bed/2 bath house in 4 hours, including furniture and household goods. Plastic bin bags for anything that's not breakable, same for clothes out of the closet or drawers, just throw them in bin bags. If you're taking furniture, leave items in drawers don't bother to take them out to pack. The only things that got wrapped and boxed were breakables and precious/sentimental items. Get things loaded as quickly as possible and get gone. You can sort out the bags, etc later. If you don't have a 'crew' or the vehicles we had, just take what you love and what you'll need. The rest can be sorted later.

Congratulations on your decision. This is the start of a bright new beginning for you.

Opentooffers · 05/11/2024 18:55

Time to reconnect with family and friends. You are going to learn from this that you should never neglect others for any man, and a man worth his salt would not expect you to. This could be great for your DD in the long run, being near family. Get solicitor advice ASAP, you should get at least half of all assets, and, as your ex works away, cms payments. If he earns more than you, then a portion of his pension would not be unreasonable to expect.
I bet a lot of the furnishings are yours in the house and tbh, I'd get satisfaction from him coming home to find a lot missing. You could maybe look into hiring a storage facility , then get a removal company to move it out. This doesn't have to be by weekend, you have the house keys, you are entitled to access to your home at any time, so you could aim to shift it next time he is away.
I'd hire a van and take the essentials this weekend. All the DC's stuff, clothes etc.
Let him find out when he returns, it's no more than he deserves. He probably changed his tune as the 20 yrs younger OW, was not up for a permanent situation. Since then, he's thinking he can have the benefits of family life at home, then have fun on the side when away - having his cake. He can't get away with that, it's outrageous, and it's all his fault. Your DD will come to totally understand one day, and she will thank you. It's time for a new chapter. He deserves Xmas on his own.

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 05/11/2024 18:59

When is your husband's next week away for his work?

Daleksatemyshed · 05/11/2024 19:10

He's played you Op, he's had multiple affairs/dates but now he's obviously realized he's about to lose you and his child so now it's all about how you won't cope. You will cope, you'll be happier away from a man you can't trust and whose happy to lie to you over and over. Make sure you take all your important paperwork and go back to your family. He doesn't deserve a second chance or a deadline, he's just using it against you.

Gonegirl7 · 05/11/2024 19:24

Just wanted to say you are really brave OP and I look up to you

LifeBeginsNow · 05/11/2024 19:30

Can you speak to the Padre and see if you can get any assistance with the move in these circumstances?
I'd speak to them even if you are sorted for removals. They're one of the most powerful people on camp and know a lot of people to contact for help that you may not even know about. Plus they are discreet so your husband doesn't need to know anything.
You've been a military spouse for some time, don't walk away without knowing what you're entitled to.

MollyFitz · 06/11/2024 08:29

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 05/11/2024 18:59

When is your husband's next week away for his work?

No idea, and I don't intent to be around to find out. Honestly hate leaving without a face to face conversation, however I'm being cowardly and hoping to avoid a potential scene which could/would traumatic for DD😫

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MollyFitz · 06/11/2024 08:34

Daleksatemyshed · 05/11/2024 19:10

He's played you Op, he's had multiple affairs/dates but now he's obviously realized he's about to lose you and his child so now it's all about how you won't cope. You will cope, you'll be happier away from a man you can't trust and whose happy to lie to you over and over. Make sure you take all your important paperwork and go back to your family. He doesn't deserve a second chance or a deadline, he's just using it against you.

It's my opinion he is using the christmas deadline against me, we were staying that long to give DD closure at school and I was mindful I'm taking her away from her dad, however the emotional blackmail, snarky comments, and the fact he's refusing to work on his MH while this goes on in our marriage (told him countless times there is no us and hasn't been since he threw me, our life together away) is just wearing me down to a wreak.

But I'm terrified of telling him, what comes next and the fallout after - our 2 families are very close as we were kids together and have been together 26 years😞

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Daleksatemyshed · 06/11/2024 08:48

@MollyFitz you may have close families but they only see the public face of your marriage, only you know what it's really like. He won't hold back on trying to make you the bad guy so don't be afraid to tell people the truth. Just get away to somewhere safe, then worry about what happens next . Be strong for your DD, staying together will harm her more in the long run

MollyFitz · 06/11/2024 20:38

AlertCat · 05/11/2024 18:07

Just be honest in an age appropriate way. You and daddy can’t live together any more but you both still love her and she’ll see you both, but you more. Presumably she’s used to dad going away for extended periods already, so you could use that as a parallel and reassure her that you will always be there.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this and I hope your move to your family’s home goes well.

This year has been a busy year in terms of him going away, however the irony is we uprooted our family and I left my career to move here for welfare and family life reasons. The precious 2 two years he was around and home every evening, perhaps that's the problem - he didn't really want home every evening and family time.

Heart breaks for our DD in all this, I feel so overwhelmed with trying to get her through it all unscathed. I'm having counselling and once we're moved, I'll look at getting school involved to support and therapy for her too. All just feels really intense and raw and I still have huge moments of shock and disbelief.

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AlertCat · 06/11/2024 20:42

It’s going to be harder for you than her. Just don’t let him guilt her with “I miss you” or anything- it’s not appropriate for him to put his emotions onto her (easier said than done, I know).

I had a book for mine (who was younger) called something like ‘[name] has two homes’ which was quite nice and made normal doing different things and living in different places and ways with different parents…

MollyFitz · 06/11/2024 20:57

AlertCat · 06/11/2024 20:42

It’s going to be harder for you than her. Just don’t let him guilt her with “I miss you” or anything- it’s not appropriate for him to put his emotions onto her (easier said than done, I know).

I had a book for mine (who was younger) called something like ‘[name] has two homes’ which was quite nice and made normal doing different things and living in different places and ways with different parents…

It's really hard right now, I'm not going to lie😞 I'm exhausted from the stress, upheaval and emotional roller coaster of the last 11, nearly 12 weeks.

I still don't understand how someone who is meant to love you, treats you this way and does this.

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MollyFitz · 06/11/2024 21:15

Gonegirl7 · 05/11/2024 19:24

Just wanted to say you are really brave OP and I look up to you

Thanks, I don't feel particularly brave - I feel exhausted, broken and absolutely done in.

I know it's going to turn nasty with some of the extended family, and I just can't face it right now. 😢

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