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Need some perspective after a brutal breakup

19 replies

TheCyanTraybake · 30/10/2024 17:05

I'm male 43. Ex is 43 F.

I've just left her after 15 months. She's now accusing me of being a narcissist and controlling, but having been physically assaulted and threatened before I left and having put up with her retroactive jealousy, I'm not sure that is true.

To cut a very long story short, my gf suffered with jealousy over my ex throughout our relationship. Despite me telling her I loved her and that one day we would get married, she never settled. She'd get angry and jealous about even the slightest interaction with my ex who I have three children with. She went through my watch etc.

I kept saying even though i wanted a future with her, the arguments needed to stop but they never did. Even seeing friends was becoming a source of arguments. Eventually I gave her an ultimatum. Accept my friends and my ex or we're going to fail.

She accused me of being controlling as I was forcing her to change her behaviour in order to get what she wanted (marriage). She also said I'd told her all I cared about was my ex and my friends and not her. That's not what I meant at all. I always maintained I wanted at least a couple of years of living together before we got married, as I rushed into the last one and it failed.

Anyway, when I finally said no more talk of marriage and future plans until we fixed the jealousy issue, she turned on me. Accused me of leading her on. Arguments intensified. She kept packing my bags.

She had self harmed before while with me, but this time she punched herself in the face and took a picture of it. Then said she would go to the police and say I did it. She also threatened to poison the relationship with my ex so she would stop me seeing my kids. I started recording our arguments as I was terrified. She threatened to kill herself.

I sent her a message saying the suicide threats and self harm needed to stop, that I'm not qualified to treat mental health issues but I would support her, and that her jealousy was killing our relationship. She phoned me at work and said she hoped me and my "little rats" died in a car crash and that my fat c**t of a mum dies of a heart attack. My mum had warned her that I would leave if we kept arguing and she took that badly and resented her for it. In response to my message, she threatened to drive to my work with all my things and create a scene.

To be honest, after the threats were made I checked out and was purely thinking about self preservation. At that point, I admit i was leading her on by saying we could fix things, but inwardly I was planning my escape.

She hit me several times and smashed the house up when I left. Tried to take an overdose, went for the knives to cut herself, and said she'd ruin me if I left.

Now she's messaging me as if I caused this mental breakdown. That I led her on about marriage and it was all lies and mind games. That I'm a narcissist and faked the promises. That i was using her and I've destroyed her family. I was just trying to stop her being jealous and reassuring her about future plans and marriage, but now I'm questioning whether I brought this on myself.

She was lovely and very kind to me and my children outside of the arguing about my ex. The threats only started when I tried to temporarily pull the plug on marriage and future plans until our issues were resolved.

Have I done this? I really don't know if it was fair to commit to future plans and withdraw them because i didn't like her jealousy.

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TwistedWonder · 30/10/2024 17:10

No OP you haven’t caused her to have a breakdown. She’s an abusive bully. There’s no point staying in contact with her because she’ll keep on dragging you down

Tell her you are going no contact and if she still contacts you then block her.

Quitelikeit · 30/10/2024 17:12

Oh my goodness you have truly dodged a bullet

This woman is very seriously psychologically dangerous

You should be very careful in your future communications with her and if she threatens to harm herself etc advise you will have to report her threats to the emergency services

Keep a record of all texts etc incase you need to use them as evidence

Keep her away from your children too

Block her in SM

SometimesCalmPerson · 30/10/2024 17:17

You haven’t done this. It sounds like you’ve been kind hearted but this woman’s problems run too deep for anything except a lot of therapy to change. There is nothing else you could have done.

Osirus · 30/10/2024 17:19

You’ve done nothing wrong but I don’t doubt that’s hard for you to see when you’re right in the middle of it.

Please do not feel guilty and go back to her. She’s dangerous.

TheCyanTraybake · 30/10/2024 17:20

TwistedWonder · 30/10/2024 17:10

No OP you haven’t caused her to have a breakdown. She’s an abusive bully. There’s no point staying in contact with her because she’ll keep on dragging you down

Tell her you are going no contact and if she still contacts you then block her.

Thank you. I'm so confused about the part I played in this. She has a little girl whose dad killed himself and a poorly son who both loved me, and now she's telling me I've broken their hearts too with my lies. It's horrible.

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Catoo · 30/10/2024 17:31

You’ve dodged one.

Is there a possibility she will make some kind of malicious report to the police?

I wonder if you could get some legal advice about whether you should tell the police that she self harmed and threatened to say you did it. You could also find out how you can request that she stays away from your home and workplace, and doesn’t contact you again in any way.

Abusive people aren’t abusive all the time or else we wouldn’t stay with them and hence we also have the good times. But she is abusive.

TheCyanTraybake · 30/10/2024 17:35

Quitelikeit · 30/10/2024 17:12

Oh my goodness you have truly dodged a bullet

This woman is very seriously psychologically dangerous

You should be very careful in your future communications with her and if she threatens to harm herself etc advise you will have to report her threats to the emergency services

Keep a record of all texts etc incase you need to use them as evidence

Keep her away from your children too

Block her in SM

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I have got recordings of her kicking off. I just feel so bad for her kids. Her daughter had started calling me daddy, which I wasn't really comfortable with but with the way gf was I felt I couldn't challenge it. Gf had asked me to adopt her as her real dad was dead. But in the end the craziness just got too much.

I think I've been too weak. I've tried to appease her and made matters worse.

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Osirus · 30/10/2024 17:55

You’ve not been weak. You did the best you could with what you had in front of you. Be grateful that you got out as soon as you did - it would have got harder and harder as the months and years ticked by.

The kids might be upset but they will move on quickly - kids do. As hard as it is, you can’t stay in a bad situation just to keep someone else’s kids happy. You got out before they became even more attached. She should not have let her daughter call you daddy - that’s on her.

Terrribletwos · 30/10/2024 18:19

@TheCyanTraybake you've absolutely done the right thing by getting away from an obviously abusive partner. Do you think the kids are safe?

SoporificLettuce · 30/10/2024 18:25

TwistedWonder · 30/10/2024 17:10

No OP you haven’t caused her to have a breakdown. She’s an abusive bully. There’s no point staying in contact with her because she’ll keep on dragging you down

Tell her you are going no contact and if she still contacts you then block her.

This 100%

SoporificLettuce · 30/10/2024 18:27

TheCyanTraybake · 30/10/2024 17:35

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I have got recordings of her kicking off. I just feel so bad for her kids. Her daughter had started calling me daddy, which I wasn't really comfortable with but with the way gf was I felt I couldn't challenge it. Gf had asked me to adopt her as her real dad was dead. But in the end the craziness just got too much.

I think I've been too weak. I've tried to appease her and made matters worse.

Go NC with her immediately.

You cannot appease a bully.

Thankfully you have no children with her so no need to ever contact her again.

StormingNorman · 30/10/2024 18:29

It was a lucky break for you. Block her on everything and don’t engage.

SoporificLettuce · 30/10/2024 18:34

Consider getting in touch with something like this @TheCyanTraybake

https://mensadviceline.org.uk/

Something similar happened to one of my sons. Terrible situation.
best wishes to you

Domestic Abuse Helpline for Men | Men's Advice Line UK

The Men’s Advice Line is for male victims of domestic abuse. We offer confidential advice, non-judgmental support, practical information and help

https://mensadviceline.org.uk

TheCyanTraybake · 30/10/2024 18:59

Osirus · 30/10/2024 17:55

You’ve not been weak. You did the best you could with what you had in front of you. Be grateful that you got out as soon as you did - it would have got harder and harder as the months and years ticked by.

The kids might be upset but they will move on quickly - kids do. As hard as it is, you can’t stay in a bad situation just to keep someone else’s kids happy. You got out before they became even more attached. She should not have let her daughter call you daddy - that’s on her.

Thank you. I did love her kids but she was pushing so hard for commitment I got cornered into things. Feel awful as they now think I destroyed their mum.

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TheCyanTraybake · 30/10/2024 19:00

SoporificLettuce · 30/10/2024 18:34

Consider getting in touch with something like this @TheCyanTraybake

https://mensadviceline.org.uk/

Something similar happened to one of my sons. Terrible situation.
best wishes to you

Thank you so much for this. It's so strange to consider myself as a victim of abuse but I'm starting to think that's what's happened.

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SoporificLettuce · 30/10/2024 19:41

TheCyanTraybake · 30/10/2024 19:00

Thank you so much for this. It's so strange to consider myself as a victim of abuse but I'm starting to think that's what's happened.

I know it’s hard to “see” it. But actually that’s what has happened to you, and it’s not your fault or your responsibility.

Someone who has behaved the way she has Is abusive. Many men have been through this and gone on to have a wonderful relationship with another woman (my son included, who has just gotten engaged to a lovely girl) so be kind to yourself, take time to heal and never blame yourself.
best wishes to you xx

TheCyanTraybake · 30/10/2024 19:43

Terrribletwos · 30/10/2024 18:19

@TheCyanTraybake you've absolutely done the right thing by getting away from an obviously abusive partner. Do you think the kids are safe?

Thank you.

I'm certain her kids are safe, which is at least something.

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TwistedWonder · 30/10/2024 19:47

TheCyanTraybake · 30/10/2024 19:00

Thank you so much for this. It's so strange to consider myself as a victim of abuse but I'm starting to think that's what's happened.

Many people in abusive relationships experience what’s known as the boiled frog analogy. Where things happen so gradually it has to reach a certain level before you suddenly realise what’s going on.

Honestly it’s not you. Even wanting her kids to call you dad in a fairly short relationship is not normal behaviour and it appears to be manipulative to pressure you into a commitment

TheCyanTraybake · 30/10/2024 21:59

SoporificLettuce · 30/10/2024 19:41

I know it’s hard to “see” it. But actually that’s what has happened to you, and it’s not your fault or your responsibility.

Someone who has behaved the way she has Is abusive. Many men have been through this and gone on to have a wonderful relationship with another woman (my son included, who has just gotten engaged to a lovely girl) so be kind to yourself, take time to heal and never blame yourself.
best wishes to you xx

Thank you for your kind and encouraging words. I'm glad your son has found a good one and I wish him all the happiness! X

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