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Wwyd in this situation? New partner and kids related

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UnsureWhatToDo1234 · 27/10/2024 18:45

Just after some outside perspectives as I don't really have close family and friends I can talk to.

I got out of a very toxic relationship over a year ago. Me, early 50s, him early 60s. The main reason for it's toxicity was his very close relationship with his ex-wife (no kids). He wanted to maintain contact and a friendship with her (ok, that's fine, not a problem with that at all), but he would not include me in this friendship in any way at all. For me this crossed far too many boundaries as he wouldn't even tell me if it when they'd met up, he wouldn't talk about how she was, what she'd been doing and even wouldn't answer the phone to her whilst I was there. She would send lovey, kissy texts whilst we were on holiday together (sorry, yes I did look which I know was very wrong). He always denied there was anything other than friendship, but it ate away at our relationship and became a constant source of arguments. I always felt the relationship had 3 sides. We split.

Roll on a year and I decided I was ready to start OLD. I've been out on a few dates. Some lovely men (but no spark), some downright weirdos. Some which were clearly players.

Anyway, I met one bloke who is lovely, generous, thoughtful. We've been away for weekends a couple of times and I enjoy his company. We've been seeing each other a couple of months, so it's very early days. He's a little older than me, but but that much. Good job, own house etc so it's not like he's a cock-lodger. The problem is that my children are older teens. One has flown the nest and is at university, the other lives full-time with his Dad. Since their Dad and I split I've been starting to live my life a bit more eg travel, going out etc, which I didn't get much chance to do during my 20 year marriage.

The new man has 2 DC aged 12 and 9, so they will be dependent for many years yet. He's been through court to get 50% custody and now has them every other week. That's great. The fact a father loves his children enough to fight for them when so many will walk away.

The only problem is that I'm done with that stage of parenting. I've been through it with my own DC and don't relish the idea of compromising my freedom. The court process to get awarded 50% custody was also messy and I don't want to get drawn into someone else's mess. That said, at our ages, we all have baggage. It's too early for me to have met them yet and I'm not averse to getting involved with them, but I do not want to live with someone again.

This guy seems to be one of the good ones. I don't want to live with someone ever again (which he knows), but I would like a full and committed relationship.

So, do I stick it out because he's great but maybe keep away from his child custody issues etc (I don't want to get dragged into that at all), or do I walk away and look for someone child-free (either because the DC have grown and left home, or because they never had them). Tbh I think someone who ticks all those boxes is probably like finding unicorn poo and at our ages we all have baggage and at least in his case the baggage isn't an over-invested ex-wife.

So, wwyd?

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Deargodletitgo · 27/10/2024 18:51

Think you know the answer to this, he's going to be a full time parent every second week, so either you have a part time relationship or give up now.

UnsureWhatToDo1234 · 27/10/2024 19:01

Yes, that's exactly my quandary.

I do enjoy my time alone and I'm quite happy to have time and space to do what I want without having to consider another person. I enjoy his company and I'm really impressed at the way he's stuck by his kids, who mean the world to him.

But, going forward I'm just not sure it's enough to have a relationship which is part-time? As I said, I'm not averse to getting involved with them if things progress, but I don't want to take a step-parent role as I've already done my years of compromise and parenting with my own kids.

I'm now financially stable, I have my own house etc, and I can afford to travel and enjoy that freedom. I know it sounds selfish, but I'd like someone to do all that with me.

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Getreadytime · 27/10/2024 19:06

Hmm that would put me off. 9 is very young - still primary school and a lot of dependent years ahead. It doesn’t sound as if that’s what you are looking for.

Getreadytime · 27/10/2024 19:08

If he’s waiting for them to go to university before he can go travelling with you, you will have to wait another ten years or so.

sprigatito · 27/10/2024 19:11

People might advise you that you can manage this by having firm boundaries and refusing to engage with any parenting, legal or ex-related drama, but I don't think that's realistically possible. If it's a part of his life, then it will be a part of yours, unless you operate an extremely stylised and weird version of a relationship in which he can't talk to you about half of his life. If he's stressed out because of the kids/ex/court/financial arrangements and you're his life partner, I don't see any scenario in which that stress doesn't affect you too.

LBFseBrom · 27/10/2024 19:12

If you are thinking of setting up home with this man then it's a No from me. If you are just enjoying what you have, it's a Yes.

TipsyJoker · 27/10/2024 19:22

If you can see him on the weeks he doesn’t have the kids and are happy to do your own thing when he has them, it could work. You’re not going to live with him anyway. You could go away places together when he’s child free and take trips with friends when he’s not. You could have the best of both worlds. A loving relationship and your own freedom too.

Lavenderfields21 · 27/10/2024 19:28

I would have this! One week together one week alone. Bliss!

UnsureWhatToDo1234 · 27/10/2024 19:34

sprigatito · 27/10/2024 19:11

People might advise you that you can manage this by having firm boundaries and refusing to engage with any parenting, legal or ex-related drama, but I don't think that's realistically possible. If it's a part of his life, then it will be a part of yours, unless you operate an extremely stylised and weird version of a relationship in which he can't talk to you about half of his life. If he's stressed out because of the kids/ex/court/financial arrangements and you're his life partner, I don't see any scenario in which that stress doesn't affect you too.

I'm happy to be his emotional sounding board when things get stressful. I've been through it with my own kids and my own divorce (he is fully divorced btw), so I know what it's like. I also don't think it's healthy to have a huge part of your life you're not prepared to talk about. I had that with my ex and his involvement with his ex-wife and it was toxic to our relationship being able to fully function.

What I don't want is to be seen as a step-parent or to get dragged into court as part of their custody battles. I've had enough drama with my last relationship to last a lifetime.

I'm very independent and happy to do things on my own during his child-weeks. (I already have 3 holidays planned for next year which will be with other friends). I'm just not sure if it will create problems going forward.

Maybe I should just give it a go and see what happens. I just don't want either of us to become emotionally too invested if it looks like it wouldn't work from the start.

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carly2803 · 27/10/2024 20:02

thing is, if you know you never want to live together, you can enjoy a week off in your own space and are both on the same page - it sounds bliss!

he has his house, you yours.
You can spend a week alone, then together with him.

UnsureWhatToDo1234 · 27/10/2024 22:24

Thanks everyone. I like the idea of a week on, a week off. We still call and text when he's got the kids and he's definitely looking at a future, not just a right now. He's also given me support and advice with my kids (albeit older).

I think we compliment each other well and he's definitely not just after a quick shag. I guess I'll just worried he'll look for childcare for his kids. I've never offered that though and he's never asked.

I probably start doubting myself because of my previous relationship.. I don't trust my own judgement any more.

Believe it or not, I used to be a very outgoing and confident personality before my previous relationship. I'm getting her back now, but it's taking some time.

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Dery · 27/10/2024 23:00

@UnsureWhatToDo1234 - it’s difficult when you’ve had a very bad experience in a relationship. There seems to be a lot of worried ‘what ifs’ going through your mind.

The situation you describe will probably bring with it some stress and upheaval. But no person and no situation is perfect.

Sometimes I find it helpful to cast my mind forward and imagine myself looking back at a decision and what I might then wish I had done. Imagine yourself 1 year from now and looking back at this moment: if you bail out now, do you think you’ll be glad a year from now that you didn’t give this relationship a chance? Or - whatever happens - would you prefer 1 year from now to be able to look back and say - well at least I gave it a shot? In life, with decisions like this, I think we usually regret what we didn’t do rather than what we did do.

UnsureWhatToDo1234 · 28/10/2024 08:34

@Dery I think you're right in terms of a lot of worried "what ifs".

I spent much of my previous relationship being gaslighted and any discussion on anything even slightly sensitive lead to arguments and name-calling. He wasn't capable of having calm, rational adult discussions. It's taken a long time to heal from that and has left me a much less confident person than I was before.

This guy is totally different. It's early days, but we've not had a single cross word. He's reliably in contact every day, he seems genuine and he talks about plans for a few weeks time (which so far don't seem to be future faking). He's very respectful and constantly tells me he's punching above his weight with me 🤣

I'll see how things develop. At our ages there won't be anyone out there that doesn't have baggage of some kind and he doesn't seem to be expecting me to take a replacement parent role with his kids.

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ChaosHol1 · 28/10/2024 08:37

I'd be more than happy if I didn't want to live with someone again to see him every second week and use the other week for my own stuff and meeting up with friends etc. The only issue might be holidays. Will he have enough annual leave to go away with you or would he save it all for his kids?

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 28/10/2024 08:51

OP he sounds absolutely lovely, he is respecting your boundaries but there with advice when needed. You plan to stay living apart anyway and he's ok with that.
I think you are just worried that it's too good to be true, which after your toxic ex is understandable. It is going to take courage just to give this one a chance, but it would be so sad to give up on the chance of a lovely relationship because of what-ifs.
(I've no idea how you would get pulled into court custody battles anyway, you won't be living together so all you'd have to do is just keep out of it.)
Keep your boundaries in place, give this one a chance and good luck.

mycatsanutter · 28/10/2024 09:00

I definitely wouldn't chuck this one back , he has a lot of lovely qualities and you are independent with lots of friends . You can be supportive in the issues with his ex without being involved or it taking over your time together . You might find in time that you don't mind spending the odd Sunday with his dc exploring somewhere new .

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