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Feeling massively rejected

29 replies

ThatCraftyPeer · 24/10/2024 09:51

So my 13 year relationship has come to an end. We were married for 10 years and have 2 children. The first 5 years were incredible, I hate to use the phrase "Love at first sight" but it really was, I entered the local bar and there she was, just staring at me across the bar with her big eyes. there was no pursuing each other, no mind games. Just both of us having the same goals in life and the same values and morals. It was like a drug, We couldn't get enough of each other.

However, we grew apart over the years after we both invested all our time, energy and love into the kids. We basically neglected each other. Physical intimacy just went right out the window about 2 years after our youngest was born, I kept trying and trying but got sick of the rejection. So I gave up.

Now interestingly one of the comments she made one night was: "We only have sex to make babies" I was pretty shocked to hear that, I didn't really know what to say. I was like "Ok what do you mean by that" and she just wouldn't open up, she just said we do. I thought this was her setting a boundary and so I didn't want to keep pushing it. Fast forward 5 years later and she's telling me she feels alone, unloved and abandoned. Now, I was the affectionate one in the relationship, I would give her Foot massages, Back massages and Head massages. I would kiss and cuddle her, Every morning without fail, I would make her a coffee and kiss her goodbye before going to work. I would find us recipes so I could cook us nice meals with a bottle of her favourite wine, I would buy flowers every now and then and small gifts. So I really didn't know what she meant at the time because I think I had become depressed and made myself emotionally unavailable to myself and to her. (The connection we once had, had just gone and I felt numb inside, I wasn't happy and I wasn't sad, I was just there)

I was trying to be logical about it, I suggested it might have been because she was doing her Masters Degree and still working and looking after the kids. She didn't think so, but again, didn't open up to me. 2 years later I find out she was in the early stages of an affair and so I left to stop at my parents, she said she hadn't been happy in the marriage for a long time.

I have so many regrets, I know it takes two people to make a relationship work and I just felt it became very one sided. I gave all the affection and was thoughtful but got nothing back for so long. I suggested we go to marriage counselling but she didn't want that. Now I cant stop thinking that maybe she became bored of our Sex and just wants something different, I feel massively rejected because of that, Was I just not good enough? After we had broken up for about 6 weeks, I felt as though I was in touch with my feelings again and my brain fog had disappeared.

However, I know I'm in the stages of depression again, I have been having counselling to help me understand what went wrong. I feel like such a failure and don't feel good enough. I worry that at the age of 36 I will never find another love like that. And of course she is now dating someone new which just makes it even more painful.

OP posts:
ManHereSorry · 24/10/2024 10:00

You’re 36 not 86. Pull yourself together and stop feeling sorry for yourself mate.

ATastingMenuButItsAllCrisps · 24/10/2024 10:03

What did you want from the thread?
Just focus on parenting your kids and sorting your mental health problems.

LeavesTrees · 24/10/2024 10:11

It’s always difficult when relationships break down, especially when your partner has an affair.
You need to see it as a failing in her rather than you. You did all of the chasing and didn’t get anything back as it sounds like she had already checked out of your marriage.
Thinking about what went wrong is important so that you can learn for future relationships, however, going by what you have written it doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong really.
You need to somehow draw a line under it and focus on the future. 36 is still very young these days there is plenty of time to meet another person.

MostlyGhostly · 24/10/2024 10:12

I think this is a common situation after children and reminds me of the breakdown of my relationship my children’s dad 20 odd years ago, but without the almost affair. My ex would be affectionate, buy flowers, arrange special nights, no matter how much I told him what I really needed, which was time out from and a sharing of, the relentless domestic chores, he just didn’t get it. It sounds as if, in trying to mend your relationship, you have done what you think “women want”, which happens to be a pretty easy option with the massages and presents etc. Maybe your wife wanted something else from you? Did you ever ask and if so what did she say? Who took the lion’s share of sorting the children, chores and household admin?

what I wanted from my ex was time out from the dreary relentlessness, being touched and grabbed and people being needy on me, but he just would not get it and felt it was an excuse to avoid sex and that I was probably having an affair ( I was not). Can you see any similarities with your own relationship? I think men often get the post children period SO wrong.

ThatCraftyPeer · 24/10/2024 10:50

MostlyGhostly · 24/10/2024 10:12

I think this is a common situation after children and reminds me of the breakdown of my relationship my children’s dad 20 odd years ago, but without the almost affair. My ex would be affectionate, buy flowers, arrange special nights, no matter how much I told him what I really needed, which was time out from and a sharing of, the relentless domestic chores, he just didn’t get it. It sounds as if, in trying to mend your relationship, you have done what you think “women want”, which happens to be a pretty easy option with the massages and presents etc. Maybe your wife wanted something else from you? Did you ever ask and if so what did she say? Who took the lion’s share of sorting the children, chores and household admin?

what I wanted from my ex was time out from the dreary relentlessness, being touched and grabbed and people being needy on me, but he just would not get it and felt it was an excuse to avoid sex and that I was probably having an affair ( I was not). Can you see any similarities with your own relationship? I think men often get the post children period SO wrong.

I think you probably hit the nail on the Head. Yes we didn't really date each other but we did have a lot of days out as a Family. I guess I probably looked at other peoples marriages and relationships and never saw them dating each other once kids came along.

I would definitely say my wife was the organiser however, after she had told me she felt alone, unloved and abandoned, I started doing even more round the house. I would do most of the cleaning, I helped out with the washing and did loads of cooking. I guess I'm just so angry with myself and have lots of regret. I let a good woman go. I'm just trying to get my head around it all so if I do ever find someone else, I wont make the same mistakes

OP posts:
HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 24/10/2024 11:02

That’s quite the pity party you’ve thrown yourself in the opening post. You talk about what you did, how affectionate you are and did things around the house, but it doesn’t sound like you heard and understood what she was saying. That’s not going to change things.

You’re 36, you and your partner didn’t nurture your relationship once you had children and you grew apart.

It’s sad, of course, but pretty common unless there’s a concerted effort to keep connected as a couple, listen to each other and nurture the relationship separate to that of being parents.

36 isn’t exactly ancient, you’ve got more years ahead than behind you in all likelihood. Think about what you can learn for the situation that will help in the future, and focus on being a good father and co-parent.

Future relationships will happen in time. Now’s the point to reflect and rebuild.

Whalewatching · 24/10/2024 11:18

Sorry you’re going through this @ThatCraftyPeer It may be that you just simply grew apart, obviously communication was lost and while it’s tempting to try and find the root cause, it was probably quite a few things that led to the break down. The self reflection is good to do but try not to over dwell on attempting to allocate blame, either to her or yourself as it’s fruitless now. I understand that you regret a lot, that’s a common theme when you break up, but think about it, what would you have done differently? You gave it all you could. Tbh, she probably did too in her own way and tried for it to not end like this. Many men are blindsided in a breakup as they don’t often see how unhappy a woman is and even if they do, often they don’t know how to fix it and often it’s too late for her.

The relationship was not a failure. You are not a failure. You have two kids that I’m sure are a joy. Get some counselling to work through this and help you now in your parenting.

You will get through this, take time now, learn from it and you may well find love again. Good luck.

sunflowersngunpowdr · 24/10/2024 14:00

The misandry on this site is outrageous. OP is accused of throwing himself a pity party but if the sexes were reversed your wife would be an abusive monster.

You need to be angrier at your wife. She used you and stung you along and wasted your time. At 36 you are still in your prime and you won't find it hard meeting someone else if that's what you want. Get yourself sorted emotionally though and make sure you have a fair divorce with as much access to your children as possible.

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 24/10/2024 14:16

Agree the lack of sympathy to male posters on here is really tiring.

I hope you are okay OP.

ThatCraftyPeer · 24/10/2024 14:37

I'm just trying to work out what happened really. What areas I need to work on so it doesn't happen in the future. She wasn't a bad person, She did treat me well up to a certain point. (Last 3 or 4 years is probably when it started going down hill, Lockdown probably didn't help either)

I can totally see it from her point of view too, I wasn't making her feel loved (completely unintentionally) and sure enough, someone befriends her and starts showing her some attention. But ultimately it was a choice. Its not the affair that I'm upset about, its the regrets, not knowing how she wanted to be loved, not knowing how to show up for her. Feeling like we have robbed ourselves of a happy life together for us and our children. Before kids, it was easy. we would go on dates every weekend for a year until we moved in to our first flat together and even then, we still dated. She felt love through spending time dating each other and making an effort that way. I just didn't see that. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

OP posts:
thiscantbemylife · 24/10/2024 15:03

If a women had posted this people wouldn’t be saying pull yourself together what a pity party sort of stuff.

I went through similar OP it doesn’t matter if it’s a man or woman posting this, it will ring true for many reading it. I’m sorry you’re going through this.

Stichintime · 24/10/2024 15:09

I think you need to let all this wondering go and focus on yourself and moving forward. You may have mis read things in that relationship, it doesn't mean the same thing will happen in the next.

LeavesTrees · 24/10/2024 15:14

Feeling like we have robbed ourselves of a happy life together for us and our children.

You haven’t done this, she has. People who have affairs are not as committed to you as you are to them. It’s happened to me and it’s an awful realisation to have. People don’t NEED to have an affair, they WANT to have an affair. We are all human beings, some of us are loyal, and some just aren’t. Some people take their wedding vows seriously, others just don’t.
I hope you find a loyal person next time.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 24/10/2024 20:52

You sound like a good partner and you'll find it really easily to meet someone else! So many incredible women on dating apps in their 30s

PinkLady1979 · 24/10/2024 20:58

You have had some undeservedly harsh responses here and I agree with the posters that have said that if you were a woman you would have had much more sympathy. Sorry you are going through this. You sound like a good man that wants to understand what went wrong. You are young. Things happen for a reason. There is a better partner out there for you and you will be happy again. You deserve better.

kkloo · 24/10/2024 21:07

I'm just trying to work out what happened really. What areas I need to work on so it doesn't happen in the future.

I'd say this part could be key.

Physical intimacy just went right out the window about 2 years after our youngest was born, I kept trying and trying but got sick of the rejection. So I gave up

What way did you handle it in those 2 years? Did you fight with her etc?

MoonPieHazySky · 24/10/2024 21:11

thiscantbemylife · 24/10/2024 15:03

If a women had posted this people wouldn’t be saying pull yourself together what a pity party sort of stuff.

I went through similar OP it doesn’t matter if it’s a man or woman posting this, it will ring true for many reading it. I’m sorry you’re going through this.

Right? Some of the responses are awful.

It’s the relationships board and he’s come looking for support. It’s not a crime.

Gettingbysomehow · 24/10/2024 21:15

You only gave her things when you were having sex. It doesn't sound like you gave her any loving without sex strings attached. Sadly common. Women need to be loved in order to feel sexy with no strings attached.
I was very ill for a year and couldn't have sex during that time. My exH walked out after 6 months because we weren't having sex. Walked out of a 20 year .marriage.

Meanwhile33 · 24/10/2024 22:30

I think this is probably where you went wrong: I kept trying and trying but got sick of the rejection.

when it first became obvious she had lost interest in sex, you needed to talk about that and find out why. Keeping on trying when she’s not interested is just annoying and makes it clear that you’re not interested in understanding her, you just want what you want. So for next time, when things first start to feel not right, you need to talk about it in depth until you both fully understand each other. You’re still very young so no need to despair.

kkloo · 24/10/2024 22:45

Did her libido return after having the second baby and then she went off sex? Or did it just not return after having the baby?

SunflowerTed · 25/10/2024 00:20

Gettingbysomehow · 24/10/2024 21:15

You only gave her things when you were having sex. It doesn't sound like you gave her any loving without sex strings attached. Sadly common. Women need to be loved in order to feel sexy with no strings attached.
I was very ill for a year and couldn't have sex during that time. My exH walked out after 6 months because we weren't having sex. Walked out of a 20 year .marriage.

Have you actually read his post?!!!!!

SunflowerTed · 25/10/2024 00:22

So sorry this has happened. Don’t beat yourself up too much - you suggested counselling and trying but she’s had her head turned. It takes two people to want to date and be intimate but you both lost sight of each other. Try and get yourself into a place where you feel ready to love again x

wrped · 25/10/2024 01:51

ManHereSorry · 24/10/2024 10:00

You’re 36 not 86. Pull yourself together and stop feeling sorry for yourself mate.

youre an idiot

wrped · 25/10/2024 01:52

ATastingMenuButItsAllCrisps · 24/10/2024 10:03

What did you want from the thread?
Just focus on parenting your kids and sorting your mental health problems.

why does anyone post on here you idiot

Walkden · 25/10/2024 03:42

"If a women had posted this people wouldn’t be saying pull yourself together what a pity party sort of stuff."

Your wife cheated on you, then used "the script"about feeling wanted we unloved OP. You are better off apart as otherwise you would be setting a poor example of a healthy relationship.

No one comes on here blaming the wife when the husband cheats and asking which needs did you not meet, did you pull your weight around the house or did you not listen to what he was telling you.

I don't see why the advice here should of been different....