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I need stories on the wisdom of getting back with an ex

21 replies

fragojago · 10/10/2024 17:47

I'd love to hear from others who have been in a terrible dilemma about whether to go back to their ex, or who have done so and it succeeded/failed.

Me and my H have been married 7 years this year, we were mid 20s when we got together and i think we were both a little immature for our ages, we fought a lot and both acted kind of needy and took a lot of our mutual childhood issues out on each other (both troubled childhoods with abuse/neglect). We separated for about 6 weeks twice after things came to a massive head during lockdown, and ended up in almost a year of weekly counselling, as neither of us wanted to let go. Part of that is that he is stepdad to my DS9 who has never known another dad figure and he's been in DS life since he was 2, we have had so many shared experiences as a family and we're a lovely unit when it's good.... but when it's bad, it's bad. DH is a sulker/silent treatment giver and I hate that DS has been around that, he does it whether at home or on days out, and he can be quite nasty to me and some other red flags like not really bothering with my family members, saying there's something wrong with me and blaming all our communication issues on me. He also doesn't really do housework and various things in his behaviour have given me the 'ick' so we havent had sex in quite some time. We moved abroad for his job a few years back but he got depressed about the pressures of work and missing his family and within a year we were arguing a lot, spending precious date nights arguing, stuff like that. Arguing with DS in earshot which is so awful, I know. I got close to having an emotional affair about this time last year and told DH about it and how i didn't know what I wanted and that. He got very upset and basically things were not the same since. He told me to 'get out' in January so we had a couple weeks separation but ultimately decided to try again, but after a failed attempt at a nice holiday in March I just couldn't cope and went back to home country with my DS which really angered and upset H. I have been here since, although DH came over in August as we had to renew our visas and I decided to go along and do this with him as I truly didnt know what I wanted, both of us are finding it incredibly hard to let go, we havent initiated divorce proceedings or even split finances properly, and we both cried and felt really sad when we last met up in August, and we had a meal together with DS who seemed happy we were all back together. DS is very closed up and won't tell me what he wants. Also, I've been spending time with an old friend of mine who I think would want more, if I wanted to be with him, and he is the opposite of DH: very domestic, calm, a bit older and a higher maturity level. I have made an OK life here for me and DS, close to family members, manageable little house and car.

But honestly, many days I feel incredibly depressed. I miss DH's friendship and our in-jokes and cuddles and how well he knows me and DS, I miss our much beloved pet, I miss the city we lived, I miss the friends we all had there, I miss family time - meals together, walks together, trips together, lazy afternoons. I was able to give DS all that despite his bio dad not ever being around, and now I feel I have taken it away. Financially me and DH are very well off together but apart (especially as he will not be paying any child support for DS who he never adopted) it is tough. The thought of getting divorced and letting go fully of that other life is heartbreaking. I am very close to booking flights and taking DS back next week to go back to our old lives and try and make it better. I think if we went back to MC and I went to IC, it could maybe help. But i could just be delusional. There is a life ready here for us, and my friend has reminded me there are other men/relationships out there I am only in my 30s. Part of me is like, the pain of my old life ending can only be resolved by not ending it. And selfishly I want my old life back, I want DS to be OK (as in, with the good friends he had, with the lifestyle we had, etc.) But is that the right thing? DH and I have argued for years, always tried to hurt each other, we don't have a sexual relationship anymore so to speak, and mainly there is real bad blood especially over the past year and what if we went back and it all imploded. what would that do to DS? Yet we both do still feel 'love' for each other. Despite everything.

TLDR: Does it ever work to go back to an ex?

OP posts:
Notamum12345577 · 11/10/2024 08:41

I’m afraid I don’t have the answers, but one thing you mentioned. I think you could legally get child support from him, as he has been a dad to your son since he was 2, and the only father he has known. I may be wrong, but definitely heard that was possible.

Justcallmebebes · 11/10/2024 08:53

Notamum12345577 · 11/10/2024 08:41

I’m afraid I don’t have the answers, but one thing you mentioned. I think you could legally get child support from him, as he has been a dad to your son since he was 2, and the only father he has known. I may be wrong, but definitely heard that was possible.

You cannot get child support from a man who is not your child's biological father!

DoAWheelie · 11/10/2024 08:56

What has actually changed though? It's just going to go back to the bad times again.

Littys · 11/10/2024 09:27

This is a highly abusive man that you brought into your childs life.
You have finally gotten rid of his lazy abusive arse but are feeling lonely.

Hevis not a good man.
Accept that loneliness is part of doing the right thing by your child.
Keep this awful man out of your home.
Put your child first.
Haven't you both been abused enough by him?

PrincessofWells · 11/10/2024 09:30

Justcallmebebes · 11/10/2024 08:53

You cannot get child support from a man who is not your child's biological father!

Yes you can because he is a child of the family.

Heretodayblownawaytomorrow · 11/10/2024 09:30

You can't claim cms from a man who's not ds's df....
Because he's not ds's df....

Girlmom35 · 11/10/2024 09:31

No no no no no
This isn't the man you go back to.
If you were in a better place emotionally, you'd be able to see this for what it is: an abusive relationship.
You've bonded with him through your shared trauma. You're so infamiliar with healthy relationships that you're confusing this unhealthy attachement with love.
Do not revisit this. Nothing will get better from returning to that.

PrincessofWells · 11/10/2024 09:35

Heretodayblownawaytomorrow · 11/10/2024 09:30

You can't claim cms from a man who's not ds's df....
Because he's not ds's df....

Yes you can, providing you are/have been married. The child is considered a 'child of the family'.

Heretodayblownawaytomorrow · 11/10/2024 09:49

Well no solicitor told me that when I divorced ex and I had dc....

unsync · 11/10/2024 09:53

You don't feel love, you are trauma bonded. It's a toxic and abusive relationship. Don't do it to yourself or your son.

Heretodayblownawaytomorrow · 11/10/2024 09:54

Because legally only the biological df has to pay. Good old govt website..... Why do people talk such rubbish?

PrincessofWells · 11/10/2024 22:35

Heretodayblownawaytomorrow · 11/10/2024 09:54

Because legally only the biological df has to pay. Good old govt website..... Why do people talk such rubbish?

Perhaps because some of us trained for six years to practice this stuff 🤔
www.wiselaw.co.uk/paying-maintenance-step-children/

kkloo · 11/10/2024 22:39

It sounds incredibly toxic.
You've already had a year of weekly therapy with him but it seems he hasn't changed any of his behaviour.

Seaoftroubles · 11/10/2024 23:14

OP please don't go back to him he won't change and its not as if you haven't tried. As others have said you are trauma bonded because of your toxic relationship. Just remember all the bad times and the arguments in front of your son, why go back to that?

fragojago · 17/10/2024 14:15

Thanks for the replies. I am not trying to make him into some bad guy. I have also been argumentative and insecure in my time and i found it hard to forgive how moody/sulky he could be from when my ds was young (as young as 3). And so maybe i should have ended it years ago, before we separated a couple of times. We are right on the cusp of either divorce or reconciliation which sounds crazy but I/we need to make a decision on how to move forward. It is coloured by the fact DS really really misses his old friends/school/pet and is withdrawn, lonely, compared to how he was before. it makes me feel so, so guilty for taking him out of his life. This is what is tipping the balance for me right now. And i also wonder if i checked out a bit after falling for this other guy, and whether i did 'everything i could' to save the marriage. I know it was hurtful of me to leave dh without warning and i feel deeply guilty. Plus, we both miss each other and still feel there is something there. He has always provided very well for us, we are his world and he is lost without us. I do believe that. I don't want to face things like Christmas with everyone so sad.

But at the same time, I know what PPs on this thread have said is true: that our relationship has been unhealthy and he has caused me a lot of resentment both through his laziness and also his childishness. His opinion is that if i come back, i will go to IC for my issues (I do have a lot of issues and i dont mind going to counselling but the narrative definitely is that theres something wrong with me), i will quit my stressful job and find something else, and we will go to MC to talk things out and learn better ways to communicate. But there feels like there is this underlying anger on his side which even MC may not solve. Like, i have had a really hard time making this decision and acting, as i will need to sort everything myself (flights, packing, stashing the car, transitioning ds) and he is not doing anything towards that, he said he will just meet us at the airport, and my ambivalence and stress has left me a bit paralysed and he is really angry that I have not come back yet he says I am going back on the things I said. I try to talk him down explaining how tough things are for me emotionally at the moment but still, he doesn't help. He hasnt offered to come over here and help, he hasnt offered to book flights, anything to make it easier. It feels like he is just mad at me instead of the way he would act towards someone he loves.

It's a really hard situation and i feel i am on borrowed time if i want to make this work and/or give DS his life back. DS keeps telling me he wants to go back. He doesnt like the school here, he doesnt want to go on the residential next week, he has lost motivation for anything but screens. I just want to help him.

OP posts:
Overbythewaterfountain · 17/10/2024 17:24

we had a meal together with DS who seemed happy we were all back together. DS is very closed up and won't tell me what he wants

I'm going to be blunt, OP - you need to grow up, be the adult and take responsibility for your child's wellbeing. Do not, under any circumstances, ask your child whether or not he wants to go back. Children are eager to please, he will likely tell you whatever he thinks you want to hear. You cannot base this decision on what a child says. You must base it on facts.

You are trauma bonded with this man. This is not lovely. You KNOW exactly what it will be like if you go back - he doesn't even bother to pretend otherwise! No wonder your son is so confused, he is taking his cues from you. Consider how you want your life to be in five years. Go to counselling by yourself. Learn to make healthy choices for yourself and your son.

You know why you posted here. Follow through. Block him and move on and build a life for you and your child.

Dweetfidilove · 17/10/2024 18:09

I wonder if your child seemed happy because you were enjoying your ex's company, enabling him to relax?

What is your home life like presently? Are you moving on, or are desperately sad and mopey, making it an unsettling environment for your son?

Meadowfinch · 17/10/2024 18:13

Op, don't do it, He's an ex for a reason. You deserve better.

Theonlywayisuptoyou · 17/10/2024 18:25

But you are not hankering after the “ good old days” because if what you have written is at all accurate ( and most people try and put a nice spin on things) there were very little good times even back then. Planning to be in counselling for yourself and marriage counselling just to try and force it to work “ you’re flogging a dead horse “ as my mum used to say. Honestly it sounds like you are missing the security of a comfortable life style way more than actually missing your ex, and quite frankly why would you, he sounds horrible. You are the parent in this DO NOT put the pressure on your child for going back to your ex for your child’s sake, if you couldn’t be more mature for your child before you met your ex, now is the time! Oh and don’t jump straight into another relationship, that is not the answer to your problems either.

Onelifeonly · 17/10/2024 18:38

No don't go back - nothing has changed so you will encounter the exact same issues again. It really isn't normal in a healthy relationship to have big rows and blow ups. My DH and I have disagreements but we talk them out and agree a compromise.

And don't involve your son - it's not fair to put that on a young child who doesn't understand the complexity of adult relationships.

And forget the old friend, unless he stays a friend only. Life isn't a sprint, take your time to work out who you are and what you want from a relationship first.

PrueRamsay · 17/10/2024 18:53

Good grief, no! Don’t go back.

You have escaped. Keep running

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