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Have I over-reacted... or... would you feel the same?

36 replies

Quartzrain · 06/10/2024 20:46

A bit of background. I reunited with my first love from university days a few years ago. We are both fast approaching 60. Both of us have been through the mill, he lost close relatives a couple of years back and I lost a parent only recently, as well as suffering some health problems myself.

We are also long distance. We met in Paris in the eighties and that's where I did my year abroad at art college and he has lived there for over 30 years now, he's originally from Algeria. He has property in Spain and we would often spend a few weeks together there, several times a year, as most of his close family live there. We have had some fairly hefty disagreements in the past (not due to language as we both speak fluent French and Spanish), and at one point I ended it and we didn't speak to each other for almost one year.

I realise this doesn't sound ideal. There was always a view to him coming to the UK at some point and settling here, with us spending extended periods in Spain. Personal circumstances, illness, deaths in the family etc. etc. have all happened. He was very supportive towards me when my father was ill, and when he passed away. Although he did not come here, I was able to take a break in Spain and recharge my batteries. We would keep in touch via Whatsapp every day, usually without fail.

What has really upset me, and this actually happened last year, is that the last time I spent any lengthy period of time with him, which was last May, before I travelled out to see him, he made an odd comment that "even if I get married, my wife would have to understand that I will always be there for you and she would need to accept that you would come to stay, to have a rest". We had been arguing over the phone and didn't speak for a while. At one point he said he wanted to get married, as that was "expected" of him, to a certain extent, but I have never wanted to be married and said it was unnecessary, that love keeps people together, not a piece of paper.

Anyway, off I went and while I was out in Spain with him, I discovered that his sister-in-law had arranged for him to meet a friend of his, with a view to marriage. Yep, tis a cultural thing. He had told her that her friend was beautiful but would probably not want anything to do with him. He told her to try to arrange the meeting nevertheless and send his photo and then this woman said she didn't want to meet him. At the time, we were together. He was telling me he loved me and "never even thought about another woman".

Now I feel like the second choice. It has been festering and festering and when I finally challenged him about it on Whatsapp, he didn't answer me at all, nor did he attempt to whitewash it or excuse it, nor reassure me. So I've angrily told him to get lost.

Would you all feel the same??

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RichTea90 · 06/10/2024 22:29

You could always get a prenup 🤷‍♀️

FinallyHere · 06/10/2024 22:34

that both his previous marriages ended badly, with both wives leaving him.

He doesn't sound that great a catch, really, does he?

Talulahalula · 06/10/2024 22:45

Quartzrain · 06/10/2024 22:11

I should also add that a few years back, his brother said their Dad wanted us to get married and semi-jokingly, we went and chose "engagement" rings. I love silver and have a beautiful sterling silver filigree ring, not a classic stone (blood diamonds, yukkkk etc...), and he got a lovely plain silver band. As soon as we got back to France, he stopped wearing the ring... go figure!!!

And why did you do that if you don’t want to get married and had made that clear to him? It all sounds a bit immature and messy, sorry.
definitely do not let him persuade you back; he needs to actually concentrate on a marriage if he wants one, and you sound like you need to be clear about what you do or don’t want before you get involved with anyone else or him again. Playing at getting engagement rings jokingly? And then wondering why he doesn’t wear it? You said you didn’t want to get married and had made that clear to him.

Quartzrain · 06/10/2024 23:24

Talulahalula · 06/10/2024 22:45

And why did you do that if you don’t want to get married and had made that clear to him? It all sounds a bit immature and messy, sorry.
definitely do not let him persuade you back; he needs to actually concentrate on a marriage if he wants one, and you sound like you need to be clear about what you do or don’t want before you get involved with anyone else or him again. Playing at getting engagement rings jokingly? And then wondering why he doesn’t wear it? You said you didn’t want to get married and had made that clear to him.

He had been emotionally abusive. Verbally and a couple of incidents that were physical. We talked, he apologised, said he had been jealous. That was one of the other reasons I was never sure about marrying him. However, when we got the rings, I really think it was a show for his Dad, who thought it inappropriate for us not to be married. The minute he was away from his Dad, he took the ring off.

I guess nothing is ever black and white, right? But I always felt the abuse might start up again. By the time he apologised...and it felt sincere, even though he HAD been drinking, it was too late as there was somehow simply too much manipulation and abuse in the past ... and despite his phone support when my Dad died.... I could never ever forget what had happened before.

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Quartzrain · 06/10/2024 23:25

He also promised to come to the UK.. constantly.. he knew what was going on and how much I needed him to support me... here. He had so much of his own stuff going on that I let it slide. But he could have given me a week or two of his time.

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BlastedPimples · 06/10/2024 23:43

Abuse is black and white. Always. Even with apologies.

Please bin him.

Please enjoy being single. Or even dating other men.

Your current chap isn't all that. He's abusive.

Valkyrie3 · 06/10/2024 23:45

No. Fucking. Way.

yeesh · 07/10/2024 03:33

It gets worse with every update. You deserve better than this piece of shit

Copperoliverbear · 07/10/2024 03:52

Walk away and stay away.

Josette77 · 07/10/2024 04:09

He's abusive? Why would you go back to him?

I am curious though, you've said why you don't like marriage but not that you wouldn't Marry him?

Also, what is your relationship history?

He likely still would have been married twice even if you'd stayed together longer. I
Of course his marriages ended badly. He likely abused them too!

Bibi12 · 07/10/2024 13:14

Just leave him already. This whole "relationship " doesn't sound healthy and you don't seem compatible, not to mention he's not a great catch anyway, is he ?
I don't believe in mixing completely different cultures, it always ends up in trouble and he is still attached to his way of life.
You're wasting your time instead of moving on and finding a right person.

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