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Partner not interested in buying a house yet?

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NewMamaSummer · 02/10/2024 09:50

I will try to keep this brief but it is complicated.

Partner of 9 years, unmarried & have a 3 year old together.
And have been renting together for 5 years.

I have been self-employed for over 4 years, hit a rough patch financially last year & half and have been working tirelessly to re-build and/ or return to full-time employed position for security & secure a house. Despite my instability financially & tbh from the start whilst pregnant & using savings to survive I still have held up my side 50% rent, bills & childcare both unpaid & paid.
I have also clung onto a modest deposit (savings) to buy a house.

From 14m to last month child was in private nursery 2 days only per week.
I may add our child has just started pre-school (school setting not private). So term-time, full-time school hours only.

Partner works shifts 4 on-4 off & gets paid overtime. Has no start time or finish time so this makes it difficult for me to work around in terms of employment should those days fall on working/ school days. So he is not helping at all on his working days due to really long hours.
He was had no reduction in income even through the pandemic & earns more.
On top of this he has a creative side business he is trying to build & seems to be pinning hopes on this for future financial gain. His day job is not his dream whereas mine I have trained in, got a degree & been doing for 16 years.

We are both nearly 40. We are running out of time.

We recently moved to a cheaper rental & do not pay for wraparound care in order to help release some financial pressure. However that only allows me to work 30 hours per week if he is not off & so I have been working before school & after child is in bed if I have a lot of work on. Basically crazy hours in the night if necessary which tbh is part & parcel with running a business & although hard is ok.

I WFH luckily.

After 3 months of being in this new place we have discovered damp & vermin. So I am obvsiously getting increasingly frustrated that we are stuck in a rental trap.

Here comes the issue.

He is in no hurry to buy a house to the point where he shuts down the conversation & says “do you have money to buy a house?” whereas I am explaining if I was to return to full time role, we could afford this if he actually bothered to save for a deposit.

I am fully aware of the property market & my concern is waiting even longer we will get even more priced out of the market. Emotionally I need a stable safe to live & for our daughter.

He says “you have had X amount of years to buy a house, if you wanted to you would have already done it!”
He says he shouldn’t be pressured by me.
If he wanted a house he wouldn’t be waiting on me he’d do it anyway.
Which is incredibly hurtful to me as I have never earned even when employed in my profession enough to have bought a decent house, however in hindsight I do understand it may have been possible 10 years ago when prices weren’t so high.
Although my dream was never to own a house by myself I was stupidly waiting till I met the right person.
I think it is unreasonable & unrealistic to suggest an average single income could afford to buy a house easily.
He also says when he is ready he will buy a house which is total bluesky thinking as he seemingly has not got the money, no idea of the market & how mortgages work, whereas I do as I have been researching it.
He says I shouldn’t just be aiming to buy a house & he has bigger goals & will miraculously be able to buy one when those goals are reached.
I get really angry at his head in the clouds mentality.
All i want to do is speak to a mortgage broker who can assess our situation & tell us where we stand so we can work towards this, but he won’t entertain that either.
I have told him we can have both, nothing will be stopping you working on those goals if we owned as opposed to renting. In a lot of cases my caluclations show we would be paying the same or less on a mortgage instead of renting & obviously building an asset too.

More to the deeper issue here, we are not married & despite having a child we are both committed to, he basically is unwilling to buy a house together & own an asset instead of wasting money on rent.
This to me is not smart & an insult to our relationship. He is clearly not committed to me so there is no future.

Major arguement yesterday where he then decided he would go & live alone after this tenancy ends. It is only a 6m tenancy & we are half of the way through it.

If this ends up being the case this leaves me in a really difficult position. I could not afford the rent alone at the current place (not even sure the landlord would allow me to be the sole tenant) & would be trying to find a rental that excepts dogs as a single mum & maybe self employed to boot.
On top of this it would be the cut off time to apply for the school our child is currently in.

I don’t want to leave the area due to family close by as they are really my only support system also. Or not be able to get my daughter into school by missing school applications as a whole with no fixed address.

So basically I am asking what are your thoughts as outsiders here?
Should I just cut my losses & break up my family due to child’s father not being able to commit & grow up & let myself be ruined even more financially & kiss goodbye to ever owning a house?

There does not seem to be any good option & I am so burned out with this all.

TIA for taking time to read this ridiculous novel xxx

OP posts:
Startingagainandagain · 02/10/2024 10:04

I am sorry OP but I would read this as:

  • he has made sure he is not making any real financial commitment to you as you are not married and he does not want to own a home with you, probably so he can leave the relationship easily anytime he wants
  • he is not going to change
  • he knows he has you 'trapped' because you depend on him financially to a degree.

That is not a good relationship and it is really sad that he is not caring about the security of a permanent home for your child either.

Renting all your life is very insecure and expensive and you are right to think that owning a property is the right thing to do.

I would try to sort yourself financially by either taking a job for now and continuing your business on the side, leave the relationship and buy your own home. You could more realistic and buy a flat or a shared-ownership house to start with or you could try to relocate somewhere cheaper.

I would be concerned that he is just going to walk out anyway, sooner than later and you need to build your own future.

Nourishinghandcream · 02/10/2024 10:26

House ownership is something that has always been important to me and you two are clearly not on the same page.

It seems you have the desire and means to do it so I see that this could be a deal-breaker between you.
If you don't do it and continue renting, I can see you resenting him in later life for the security your own home could have brought you.
If you do it he is either on-board and contributing (but whenever bills are high or an unexpected repair is required it will be "your fault") or you do it on your own and arrange things so he just pays you "rent".

80s · 02/10/2024 10:46

Should I just cut my losses & break up my family due to child’s father not being able to commit & grow up & let myself be ruined even more financially & kiss goodbye to ever owning a house?
What's the alternative? Bullying him into buying a house with you when you say he's not committed to your relationship, he's telling you he's about to break up with you and move out, he's not capable of saving money and he's been very clear that he does not want to buy a house?

IsawwhatIsaw · 02/10/2024 11:17

He’s keeping his options open and doesn’t sound trustworthy. He’s told you he wants to move out. I don’t see him in your future.
plan for the best for yourself.

WhistPie · 02/10/2024 12:01

Seriously, why do all these people who are 'trapped' renting have bloody animals?! If you want to get out of the renting trap then you can't really afford animals. If you want a decent rental, you can't afford animals (and by afford, I don't necessarily mean in monetary terms).

When the dog dies, don't rush out and get another - wait until you're in a secure home of your own and won't be subjected to the whims of a landlord.

And it sounds as if your partner is a commitmentophobe. It looks as if you're going to be a single parent, so prepare for that. Put in a CMS claim and look for a ground floor flat for you & the child.

Arlanymor · 02/10/2024 12:06

80s · 02/10/2024 10:46

Should I just cut my losses & break up my family due to child’s father not being able to commit & grow up & let myself be ruined even more financially & kiss goodbye to ever owning a house?
What's the alternative? Bullying him into buying a house with you when you say he's not committed to your relationship, he's telling you he's about to break up with you and move out, he's not capable of saving money and he's been very clear that he does not want to buy a house?

This I am afraid - he's already said he's going to break up the family hasn't he?

AlertCat · 02/10/2024 12:11

Yes, he isn’t committed to you or your family, and sooner or later he will leave. You have three months at least though to investigate your options.
if you have some savings, is it worth you considering alternative living arrangements like buying a canal boat? Lots of people in my area live on boats as it’s a terrible housing market here.

Chowtime · 02/10/2024 12:16

I can understand your disappointment but if he doesn't want to buy a house theres not much you can do realistically. And 40 is kind of old to be buying a house for the first time. A lot of 40 year olds are thinking about how to finally pay off their mortgage, not take one out.

On youtube, there are loads of people to follow who work out that you can still build up a significant amount of savings and pensions without buying a house. Could you focus on this intead?

GravitasShortfall · 02/10/2024 12:25

My partner and I bought our first house together at 40. It can be done, and we will pay it off by the time we retire. Not everyone has the advantage of family help with deposit or finding the right person early in life.

OP, he is absolutely refusing to committ. To your child’s future and security, not just you. The fact he’s dangling the threat of moving out if you start conversations he doesn’t like? Awful. You need to decide what you want your future and your child’s future to look like.

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