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Stay with the safe , nice man?

21 replies

Pineapplecolada1 · 16/09/2024 04:05

I’ve had several terrible relationships…. Married for 17 years to a narcissist, 4 year relationship with man who turned out to have a gambling addiction and a 7 year relationship with the love of my life who 2 weeks before our wedding was arrested for looking at indecent images.
Im a level headed, sensible person. I’m well educated and have a professional job…. I’m just rubbish at finding a decent man.

A couple of months ago a new friend set me up on a blind date with a close friend of hers. He’s a widower and he was married to her best friend . She says he was a fab husband, is a great dad and is caring and thoughtful and is exactly what I need given my history.

i met him and have been out 3 times. He is older than me and looks it. He is extremely nice, kind, thoughtful, interesting to talk to. We chatted all evening but I can talk to anyone! The problem is there were no sparks and I don’t fancy him . If a friend had the same issue I’d tell her to move on… but he’s kind and respectful and I’m getting closer to retirement. Maybe the fun and excitement now are less important than stability??

OP posts:
PinkPonyClub · 16/09/2024 04:47

Noooo. Don't stay with him. It's not fair to him - imagine reading this about you written by someone you were dating.

Aquamarine1029 · 16/09/2024 04:49

Of course you don't stay with him. What a selfish thing to do. He deserves to be with someone who genuinely loves him and fancies him.

PrincessFluffyPants · 16/09/2024 05:14

Before you start another relationship it may be worth you completing The Freedom Programme, it's often recommended on here.

TinySmol · 16/09/2024 05:29

That's not fair on him. The poor man, he deserves better.

autienotnaughty · 16/09/2024 05:29

Don't stay with him. It's not fair on him.

Be single and embrace it.

Josette77 · 16/09/2024 05:36

You'd be using him. Please don't do that. The poor man has been through a lot.

Your unfortunately poor relationships before, don't make it ok to use someone in order to not be alone.

AlisonDonut · 16/09/2024 05:39

Stay with him? It's been 3 dates!

Do you think this jumping in with the long term plans too early might be part of your problem?

isthismylifenow · 16/09/2024 05:45

You've been out with him 3 times?

And posting about whether to 'stay' with him?

Surely you can stay friends with him if you like him, but not in a romantic way..

CheekyHobson · 16/09/2024 05:46

I agree that you shouldn’t waste this man’s time if you’re not into him but also…

I’m just rubbish at finding a decent man.

… this is vague, dismissive bollocks that shows an alarming lack of self-awareness.

Have you heard the saying, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” Three extremely toxic men in a row suggests that you are missing a lot of obvious red flags and will likely plunge straight back into another toxic relationship if you don’t learn how to see them.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 16/09/2024 05:48

No.
That's not fair to him. He deserves better.

Btw - abuse is not excitement and sparks. You probably need to see if you can get some therapy. You need to retrain your brain. Abusive relationships fuck you up.

OnTheRoll · 16/09/2024 06:11

This is the ultimate sickening example of women's @bekind. The OP is not asking about him. She is asking about herself and her reasons for developing this relationship further or not. There are plenty of couples where partners are not in love evenly and they still work as both get what they want of the relationship.

Yet every single PP is writing about the man and how it is not fair on him.

A man would not and does not have such considerations to such extent when he is in a relationship. He is looking out for himself and assumes that if his woman is with him then she wants to be with him.

OP if you feel you could be content with his personality and it would work for your happiness, a safe and stable man is absolutely worth a chance.

Sandysoles · 16/09/2024 06:16

Does he want to continue to see you? Friendships can turn into more, if you’ve both had a nice time and enjoy each others company that’s a nice thing - it doesn’t mean you have to ‘get serious’ straight away or even ever. Unless he is pushing for more than you want, of course.

RedPalace · 16/09/2024 06:20

How about trying honesty? "I like you, I'm not feeling a spark at the moment but I enjoy your company. Are you Ok for us to carry on spending time together on that basis?" He has the right to say yes or no, but he does so from a place of knowledge.

And btw 3 dates and you're already planning long term / post-retirement - if he was posting I'd be telling him that was an enormous red flag.

Ethylred · 16/09/2024 06:22

So you like the alpha bad boys and he's a beta good boy. Tough decision.

DaisysChains · 16/09/2024 06:32

If you were taught that driving (relationships) involved no seatbelt &100miles an hour on cliff edges then it’s difficult to get out of that mindset

but you do need to, because until you do normal driving (relationships) will always seem weird compared to the breakneck adrenaline fuelled rollercoasters you’ve been in before

you will always be comparing from a skewed perspective

maybe new companion is driving gloves, seatbelt, 20miles an hour on suburban roads daylight only ‘Sunday driver’

or maybe somewhere in-between the two extremes

and wherever on the scale it mightn’t guarantee a suitable match

regardless of your age, the freedom or new beginnings programmes, other therapy, some self-reflection or mix of all, will really help you think about your priorities, your redlines, what you want for the remainder of your life etc

and how a romantic partner might interact with that (or not, it’s not an essential)

you don’t have to jump from 3dates to eternity - and that’s a big assumption that it would be your choice alone - likely your date has a few thoughts on the matter

no need to ‘be kind’ and ignore your preferences or desire for a bit of excitement but I’d be trying to work out any residual damage from previous relationships first

as PPs have said abuse can fuck up your perception of normal so for your own sake review if your expectations of relationships are wildly out of whack

and Red’s advice is sound - honesty, like keeping your windscreen clean, might seem boring, or uncool, or scary (people can see in at you picking your nose 😂) but at least you can see where you are going

and also how filthy someone else's screen might be

AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/09/2024 06:34

Enrol yourself onto the Freedom Progrsmne and love your own self for a change. The last thing you need at this time is yet another relationship, He deserves better too.

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?. Be on your own and unlearn the crap you have learnt about relationships to date through therapy.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 16/09/2024 06:36

OnTheRoll · 16/09/2024 06:11

This is the ultimate sickening example of women's @bekind. The OP is not asking about him. She is asking about herself and her reasons for developing this relationship further or not. There are plenty of couples where partners are not in love evenly and they still work as both get what they want of the relationship.

Yet every single PP is writing about the man and how it is not fair on him.

A man would not and does not have such considerations to such extent when he is in a relationship. He is looking out for himself and assumes that if his woman is with him then she wants to be with him.

OP if you feel you could be content with his personality and it would work for your happiness, a safe and stable man is absolutely worth a chance.

It’s been three dates….

She doesn’t find him attractive….

bergamotorange · 16/09/2024 06:40

Im a level headed, sensible person. I’m well educated and have a professional job…. I’m just rubbish at finding a decent man.

I think this needs more thought and investigation.

unsync · 16/09/2024 06:51

I think you need to be single and do some work on why you are so desperate to not be single. It sounds like your relationship history is not great and you could do with some insight into why that is. PP has suggested the Freedom Programme, its a good place to start.

Christl78 · 16/09/2024 07:01

Pineapplecolada1 · 16/09/2024 04:05

I’ve had several terrible relationships…. Married for 17 years to a narcissist, 4 year relationship with man who turned out to have a gambling addiction and a 7 year relationship with the love of my life who 2 weeks before our wedding was arrested for looking at indecent images.
Im a level headed, sensible person. I’m well educated and have a professional job…. I’m just rubbish at finding a decent man.

A couple of months ago a new friend set me up on a blind date with a close friend of hers. He’s a widower and he was married to her best friend . She says he was a fab husband, is a great dad and is caring and thoughtful and is exactly what I need given my history.

i met him and have been out 3 times. He is older than me and looks it. He is extremely nice, kind, thoughtful, interesting to talk to. We chatted all evening but I can talk to anyone! The problem is there were no sparks and I don’t fancy him . If a friend had the same issue I’d tell her to move on… but he’s kind and respectful and I’m getting closer to retirement. Maybe the fun and excitement now are less important than stability??

First let the man go and find someone who fancies him. Not fair to stay with him. I also don’t know If he fancies you.

In any case OP, I think even If this man was good looking, your age etc you would still not fancy him. You would probably find him boring. Your nervous system for some reason is geared towards a disaster of men. You need to do some soul searching and understand why you chose that for yourself. If you heal then you will most likely be naturally drawn towards men like your date. But you have to fix yourself first.

OnTheRoll · 16/09/2024 08:04

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 16/09/2024 06:36

It’s been three dates….

She doesn’t find him attractive….

Attraction can grow. It wasn't love at first sight with my now husband and now we've been married over 20 years.

It is sensible to think ahead after 3 dates and contemplate whether it makes sense to continue seeing a person or not. Time is precious.

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