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Issues and the and of the honeymoon period when you’re dating as an older woman

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Cocomoto · 08/09/2024 14:27

I’m 45 and have been dating a man 44 for about 16 months now. This time last year we were totally loved up, going on lots of fun dates, trips and I even travelled on holiday with him to his home country to meet his family. There was pretty much no conflict between us and everything just seemed to click.

Over this past summer it seems like the honeymoon period is well and truly over and I feel like while he isn’t pulling back from me as such he does seem to want more time alone to dedicate to his hobbies and he seems less keen to be spending as much on going out, for meals and to clubs or bars and the like. He is also less happy about the large commute to see me as he lives about a 90 minute drive away.

When we first started dating this didn’t seem to bother him at all and he would even come out to see me in the evenings sometimes and then have to get up really early to drive back to go to work. Now that pretty much never happens, as he says he is too tired which I understand it is just disappointing that he now seems less keen to see me. I do and have always driven to see him as well but as he lived in a shared flat its was usually better for him to come to me as I live alone in my own flat. His view is that going out a lot is what you do initially but then as you get more comfortable going out is rarer so he didn’t misrepresent himself, while I feel like getting dressed up and going out to nice places has always been something I love to do.

He has been talking about getting a different job closer to me since last Christmas and moving in with me, but he keeps saying there isn’t anything suitable or that he hasn’t got an interview for something he sent his CV for. He is a warehouse worker so I know that there probably is work he could get if he tried. I own my flat, all my family are here while he rents a room in a shared flat and is only tied to his location by low paid job he could probably replicate easily elsewhere. All his family are in Europe so he has no ties really.

He also seems fed up of some things about me, like I don’t cook, I never have and never will its just a chore to me so I prefer to eat out or make do with something easy like a ready prepared meal I can bung in the oven. He’s a great cook and I love to eat his food but I feel like now that we are staying in more he’s fed up with doing the cooking and if its my turn to cook eating a supermarket pizza and salad for example, which he never used to bother about.

I am a higher earner than him and have my own home so I can understand that he can’t afford to be going out to eat as much as I would like or getting takeaway but I’ve just never liked cooking and he knows this.

I don’t know that all this is fatal, but I just hate that my honeymoon period is over and especially at my age where even if you meet and fall in love with someone you still have to wait a year or so to see how things will pan out when you both come out of the infatuation fug. I feel like I already compromised on certain things to be with him because he was so happy to be with me and made me feel really loved and wanted. I also get that its normal for the initial phase of a relationship to end for things to settle into a more relaxed vibe but its also so hard to lose that energy.

I suppose it just feels like even when you think you are wise and have your eyes open its so hard to see all the pitfalls until your out of the initial stages if you’ve been lucky enough to fall in love the its another year or two gone by and your now even older and coming face to face with certain issues that might not be resolvable.

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Devilsadvocat · 08/09/2024 17:38

I think you should call it a day. If he cant be bothered to make a journey to see you and all the other negative stuff you say about him.
It sounds to me he is not a catch and lives in shared accommodation and not trying to find a job near to you. Sounds like he has gone off the relationship and I think you would be better off without him.

JFDIYOLO · 08/09/2024 17:43

I can see an Italian man feeling a bit thoughtful that you haven't made any effort to learn to do something that's so central to his world - and which he does for you.

Maybe he's starting to feel you don't consider it worth bothering with, when it's so important to him?

And eating out all the time may feel extravagant and unrealistic.

Strikes me he's having a rethink.

Cocomoto · 08/09/2024 17:44

Devilsadvocat · 08/09/2024 17:38

I think you should call it a day. If he cant be bothered to make a journey to see you and all the other negative stuff you say about him.
It sounds to me he is not a catch and lives in shared accommodation and not trying to find a job near to you. Sounds like he has gone off the relationship and I think you would be better off without him.

He does still come to see me at weekends but its just that he isn't so desperate to see me all the time like he used to be. I changed his shift pattern to see me more when I am off and there are legitimate issues with him finding a new job to some extent.

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Cocomoto · 08/09/2024 17:46

JFDIYOLO · 08/09/2024 17:43

I can see an Italian man feeling a bit thoughtful that you haven't made any effort to learn to do something that's so central to his world - and which he does for you.

Maybe he's starting to feel you don't consider it worth bothering with, when it's so important to him?

And eating out all the time may feel extravagant and unrealistic.

Strikes me he's having a rethink.

I don't think he wants to break it off, its just that he's out of the honeymoon phase and comfortable with where we are perhaps and is slowing things down, which I find men almost always do. Its like things are more or less nice as they are so why rock the boat when women usually prefer to keep things moving forward.

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JFDIYOLO · 08/09/2024 17:48

I'd say start making an effort to do the one thing that means a lot to him and learn to cook. Then even if the relationship closes - you've got a new life skill.

Summerhillsquare · 08/09/2024 17:52

I think you should congratulate yourself for your clear eyed appraisal of the situation. You already know what to do.

EleanorMc67 · 08/09/2024 17:57

I agree with others that you should learn to cook - whether or not you stay together! If you do enjoy good food, you'll get a sense of satisfaction being able to throw together a few simple quick recipes. Get him to teach you over a couple of glasses of wine? Carbonara, risotto, grilled chicken/fish/lamb with a salad & little potatoes? Living on takeaways, however good quality, would be very offputting to me if it was all the time rather than occasionally. I think it may also feel to him that you don't care enough to try, even though I'm sure that's not the case. I'm not being sexist btw - my partner & I both cook.

S0CKPUPPET · 08/09/2024 17:59

I know lots of rnen who cant cook at all and their partners seem ok with this and are prepared to do all the cooking or eat out. I wonder why your partner is so intolerant of this when so many other couples seem able to accept this ?

Especially when you seem to have compromised on a lot of things for him.

Shadowbox7 · 08/09/2024 18:02

Grendell · 08/09/2024 17:22

It sounds like he has lost interest and is doing a slow fade.

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AuCo44 · 08/09/2024 18:14

Sadly I think this isn't just the end of the honeymoon phase, but the end of the relationship, and he's finishing with you without actually having the grace to tell you. Be happy that you had a lovely year with him, but this relationship isn't going forwards towards marriage and commitment.

Cocomoto · 08/09/2024 18:27

@AuCo44 I don't think this is correct actually, obviously I am only talking about what is worrying me not all the good things so it gives a wrong impression. He is still very much wanting to be with me.

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Zanatdy · 08/09/2024 18:31

It does sound like slow fade but clearly you know more about how he feels than a bunch of strangers on the internet. Cooking and eating good food is at the heart of Italian culture, not saying an Italian man’s wife must be a good cook but I’d imagine it’s not easy living with someone who doesn’t cook at all and eats out all the time. I don’t know how I’d feel about dating someone like that. It’s a life skill, and giving an Italian man supermarket pizza, well he’s going to always find fault with that. All relationships honeymoon period runs dry, and 90 mins drive is a lot so I don’t blame him not driving over for a supermarket pizza and an early start

UpendedPineapple · 08/09/2024 18:39

So... he's driving for an hour and a half, paying for petrol, to turn up and cook you dinner? I can see why he's pissed to be honest.

newyearsresolurion · 08/09/2024 18:51

I wouldn't be with someone who can't cook

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tarheelbaby · 08/09/2024 20:02

You're absolutely right, the honeymoon phase is over and he is slowing down but that might be because he's taken the measure of you. He still likes you enough to make an effort but ...

PP's have a point: He is doing a lot of the 'running' and has done it for a while now. He changed his work pattern and often drives 90mins each way to see you. Plus he cooks a skillful, delicious dinner when he arrives. Wow! (have you changed your working hours?!)

You don't have to be a domestic goddess, but pan-frying a couple of pork chops/steaks and steaming a green veg (throwing in some pasta is optional) is a 15min job. Open some rich Italian wine, follow up with a cheese board and share a nice bar of chocolate. Bellissimo!

You say he's talked about changing job and moving to your area plus has applied and either not been interviewed or been successful at interview. That is HUGE! Wow! Is your job transferrable? Have you suggested that? Have you looked for a job in his area? or applied? or been through the stress of an interview?

You own a house/flat which is WOW but could/would you let that out and move to his area or closer to it? Have you considered that or offered? If you want a long term thing with this man you'll probably need to sell your place at some stage, are you prepared to do that?

TBH, I think he's pretty WOW - he sounds v. good on paper and also sounds like he wants a long term thing - and if you want to keep him, you need to 'lean in'. Plenty of younger ladies will happily accomodate a mature, thoughtful, thrifty man who can cook and wants to do so regularly.

altmember · 08/09/2024 20:23

I think the distance is the key thing here. You're relationship is in a flat spot because the novelty of it is wearing off, and distance is preventing you spending more time together. So you either need to accept that it's a long distance relationship that fits around both of your everyday lives, or work out a way to be together properly, or at least a plan. If neither of you is willing to relocate,then that's a stalemate, a dead end to progressing things. Or maybe you're just incompatible, because of geography of nothing else?

My partner only lives 15 minutes away, but sometimes we don't see each other for 3 or 4 weeks at a time because life and kids get in the way. Neither of us in a position to relocate so we just accept the status quo.

justconcerned · 08/09/2024 20:25

He sounds like a cock lodger.

theleafandnotthetree · 08/09/2024 22:09

justconcerned · 08/09/2024 20:25

He sounds like a cock lodger.

That seems very unfair, if that were the case he'd be jumping at the chance to move into the OP's flat rather than (somewhat) dragging his feet. Being a lower earner who doesn't want to eat every meal out or as an expensive takeaway does not make this man a cock lodger. It just makes him someone who lives within a budget and who is happy to make delicious meals a home, sounds pretty great to me!

Gawjus · 08/09/2024 22:15

He's making all the effort, the least you can do is learn to cook a few basic meals. He could teach you, making it a fun thing to do together.

You will need to compromise a LOT if you want him to move in!

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