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Shouldn’t have looked! It’s a phone one

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IfYouLook · 30/08/2024 09:01

I know I’m going to get flamed here. But thoughts on this (bearing in mind my culpability in breaching his privacy!) …

So. I’ve been with bf/partner ( but we don’t live together) for 3 years. We are both very late 40s. We don’t live together b/c I have 2 kids teens / YAs but plan to when youngest moves to uni. But we spend about 60/70% of our time together.

I met him OLD after the end of my 21yr marriage (uni bf). No cheating but sexless relationship and he’d become someone I couldn’t bear to see out my days with.

BF - never been married. 1 long term (7 yrs) relationship that he told me about from the off. It had been over for quite a number of years before we met and he his description of it was that it was very chaotic - lots of break ups and reconciliation. They had lived together in his flat, then she moved out and he helped her do up her new house tho they weren’t together and he described a period when they essentially just met up and has sex really.

I was never really clear a) who was the one ending it these various times - at the time I thought him he was fed up with her chaos - but I’m not sure now b) the exact timeline of all of this. When they were last together.

Anyway, about 3 days ago I went on his phone. Never done it before. But I’d been feeling anxious about us recently. He can go through phases of just being quite cold and unaffectionate. I guess a little bit moody. We had talked about it and I explained how that makes me feel. He’d promised to do better etc. But I was still on edge about it.

Anyway, I went v quickly on his WA and of course found messages between them. There was some kind of slightly sexual exchange I’d say in 2022. We started seeing each other late 2021 and were “exclusive” about a month in. I was so shocked I can’t recall it all but I think she initiated contact after he had a bereavement. He was drunk and said so in his message. There was something about her sending him a pic of what she was wearing (I didn’t see any pics). There was shared ref to some stuff that he likes that I know about usual male stuff of dressing up. Then some suggestion by her of going for lunch. But I don’t think they did.

not huge number of messages. Then a few more. The last brief exchange seemed to be last year and she sent 3 quite anodyne messages and he didn’t respond at all to them. And that seems to have been the end of it. I am imagining that his moral code kicked in at that point and he realised that he was cheating on me.

Of course I feel utterly devastated. The sexual messages WERE cheating at that time. However I do think people do have interior secret lives and really this is on me for snooping. You never hear anything good at a closed door eh. From the brief view of the messages there was no mention he was in a relationship.

Not sure what I am asking tho. If it was ongoing contact of that nature it would be all over. But the fact that it was around the time of intense grief for him, and that he’s actively shut it down since means I am more forgiving

Unfortunately tho it’s really unlocked some insecurity for me around my body. I’m about 1/2 stone heavier than when we first met and have a mum tum of someone who’s had 3 kids. He is very slim and I know really values slim bodies. Of course she is very slim one of those totally flat stomachs. I need to stop looking at photos of her and torturing myself.

I can’t tell him what I saw. He’d rightfully never forgive me. He did tell me a while back when unasked when they’d last had contact that she’d messaged him after this bereavement.

What to do?

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Mirabai · 01/09/2024 08:42

If his general patterns of withdrawal and his history of general non-commitment is causing you anxiety such that you check his phone (no judgement from me there) I wonder if this is the right relationship for you?

EllieFxOx · 01/09/2024 08:47

I don't think you can do much more, if you confront him about it, it will open up a huge gash of trust issues as you looked at his phone. I think the fact he told you they had contact after his bereavement even though he didn't say what was in the messages means he wanted to tell you he spoke to her but there was no worry that he was physically cheating. It's a few years down the line now and could unload a whole lot of nessesary hurt but discussing it again now.

winterwarmer8274 · 01/09/2024 10:29

I'm another one in the 'say nothing' (about the messages) camp.

Humans are human and no one is perfect. When you're drunk, feeling sad, and someone who you shared 7 years of your life with reaches out to you - most people would reply and perhaps reminisce on what used to be.

From what you say it sounds like it was a single exchange and since then there's been nothing really. I wouldn't say what you've found is a big betrayal, and more a human that made a mistake.

I'm sure 90% of the people on this planet would be upset by something they read in their partners private messages, especially if they were already feeling insecure. What you've done by snooping on his phone isn't great either, but don't be too hard on yourself.

But clearly there are some issues in the relationship and you feeling anxious about it. So this is what you need to try and address.

RaspberryBeretxx · 01/09/2024 10:34

Well, there was something to find on his phone so your gut was right on that! I wouldn’t tell him what you found - you can come up with the approx circumstances so he likely can’t give any helpful context or info that you don’t already know and you know there was no more contact. I wouldn’t look again (unless something changes) though.

I’d just take this info along with everything else you know and have a good think and analyse what you want and what’s best for you. Use the knowledge to try and make a “head” decision on if you will be happy long term with him. Maybe have a discussion about the relationship if needed without the specifics of what you found. You can break up with him for any reason you like so if you decide not to be with him (in part with this info in mind) you can just say it’s not working for you.

1mabon · 01/09/2024 10:50

As any Scourser would say "that'll learn ye"

MtClair · 01/09/2024 11:11

The thing is you haven’t found much.
A couple of messages that were sexual, a lot of it coming from her if I get it right. some of which when he was drunk.
And he clearly has stopped communicating with her.

Now I think the reason why it hit you so hard is the overall situation with him being ‘moody’.
Now THAT is something I’d want to look at. It’s great that you’ve been able to talk about it. Now the question is whether it’s something that is here to stay or if he is able to change his behaviour.
Also the fact you are feeling so insecure about your relationship. I mean, you went back on his messages to 2021. He stopped answering to her in 2022…. It’s a long time ago. That insecurity could be down to you. Or he is creating a situation where trust is disappearing quickly. You only can tell.

Hereforaglance · 01/09/2024 11:27

If a man snoopd on a women's phone mn are out with pitchforks calling for him to be hung drawn n quartered

If a women s'oopd on a man phone it all o poor you it all his fault let's sharpen pitchforks and have him hung drawn n quartered but o poor you he drove you to this

Dubuem · 01/09/2024 11:52

InsensibleMe · 01/09/2024 08:41

Leave him. You deserve so much better than this.

Very harsh.

NothingVenturedAndAllThat · 01/09/2024 13:01

I really hate this website sometimes. The man cheated on you and you're worrying about how people will react to you looking in his phone. You were right.

Shroomiegirl420 · 01/09/2024 13:39

First of all, going thru your man's phone should never be an issue, and regardless of whether your man was going thru a bereavement he shouldn't of been straying, if you would've found out about it then, it would be over. Too many times women stay with men like this and there's no reason why, cheating is cheating. Move on, work on yourself, and wait for someone who has respect for you.

Shroomiegirl420 · 01/09/2024 13:40

NothingVenturedAndAllThat · 01/09/2024 13:01

I really hate this website sometimes. The man cheated on you and you're worrying about how people will react to you looking in his phone. You were right.

Thank God someone said it!!!
There should be nothing wrong with going thru your man's phone!!

Shroomiegirl420 · 01/09/2024 13:42

Nothing harsh about it, she needs to leave a man like this.

Cural · 01/09/2024 13:59

I don't think any physical cheating went on, just a bit of 'for old times sake' phone flirting, which he hasn't persued since. No meeting up happened, am I right?

IfYouLook · 02/09/2024 11:30

1mabon · 01/09/2024 10:50

As any Scourser would say "that'll learn ye"

And any Irish people (tho we are kind of the same eh!)

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IfYouLook · 02/09/2024 11:35

Cural · 01/09/2024 13:59

I don't think any physical cheating went on, just a bit of 'for old times sake' phone flirting, which he hasn't persued since. No meeting up happened, am I right?

Yes I don’t think any meet up happened. I can’t tell exactly how short the period of the exchange was as it was quite a hasty scroll through. But 100% she was the last one to text a few generic conversation openers back to back which he didn’t respond to. That’s the key for me - that and the fact there has been contact between either of them since.

I really don’t count it as cheating but more as an isolated incidence of unboundaried chat with an ex that went too far and he then regretted it.

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