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"not very lady like"

79 replies

Gifgaf · 22/08/2024 17:10

I've always thought of myself as quite feminine but I am not exactly a soft speaker all the time and with my DH we have unique humour with each other and I occasionally swear.

However, for a while now my DH keeps making references at me that I am not speaking "very lady like". I never thought of it that deep before but now it's starting to make me feel insecure and I don't want to be that woman who swears a lot and have worked to stop but I just have a certain kind of personality and it's who I am.

Don't really know how to act anymore ...

OP posts:
dontbeabsurd · 22/08/2024 18:25

If he wants you to act and look ladylike, whatever that means, I understand that he has at least as high expectations of himself of looking like and acting as a gentleman? ;).
How would a gentleman act towards his 6 months pregnant partner who works, looks after the house and children and is tired and feels burnt out?
Stay calm and call him out on his bs. Put some expectations on him.

CandyLeBonBon · 22/08/2024 18:25

He sounds like a sexist prick op. I'm not sure what other diagnosis there is!

SensibleSigma · 22/08/2024 18:27

Bless you. I’m sorry. It’s obviously not really about this, it’s just the icing on the cake.

Line your ducks up and organise him out of your life. It will be easier than putting up with him.

Betyouthinkthissongisaboutyou · 22/08/2024 18:27

Ladylike! Who cares? No such thing. Hate that phrase. Be you. Your husband is a turd. 💩

Make a negative comment about his masculinity. See how he likes it.

ehb102 · 22/08/2024 18:31

Lady is a stick to beat women with. Some women qualify, some women don't . It's a terrible concept. Don't be lady-like. Be a decent person.

HelpMeHelpTheKids · 22/08/2024 18:32

I’ll be honest, OP, he sounds awful. I don’t think you should be putting the emphasis on yourself to change. In your position I’d tell him his behaviour needs to change dramatically or it’s over.

You sound fab, by the way, and don’t let him convince you otherwise.

altmember · 22/08/2024 18:37

heldinadream · 22/08/2024 17:30

Ladylike is one of those old fashioned misogynistic words that were used to keep women down and in their place OP. I hope your dh isn't using it like that, but that's its origins. There's no need to be ladylike in this day and age. It's great that you speak freely!

Is it? I just thought it was the opposite of uncouth? If you say a man is being ungentlemanly, is that misandristic?

MonkeyTennis34 · 22/08/2024 18:39

Crushedcandy · 22/08/2024 17:30

Tell him to fuck off and see how he reacts 😀

🤣🤣

Mom2K · 22/08/2024 18:40

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 22/08/2024 18:19

Ah OP it sounds like the final straw.

Next time he says something like that say to him " I don't exist to please you. This is who I am and if you don't like it you can fuck off. I won't tolerate misogynistic comments directed at me, and if you say anything misogynistic again, I will leave you".

My horrible partner went through a stage of trying to put me down in this way. Used to say shit like I have a "horrible blokey voice" and I sound like a man with the things I said. I told him the above and it did stop. (I guess, like me, right now you just want it to stop. Of course it doesn't erase the problem of what to do with a man who wants to call you nasty names, but only refrains because of a threat of separation.)

I would say the above. I would also tell him his comments are controlling and abusive.

If he doesn't stop (but not only stop with the nasty comments, if he doesn't start pulling his weight and treating you better in general) I would follow through on the leaving part.

You don't have to live your life with someone that shows you contempt. Get angry and do something about it. You are not in the wrong. You have the power and every right to determine what happens in your life and the type of relationship you want. Don't settle for this crap.

Gifgaf · 22/08/2024 18:42

You're such a lovely bunch, maybe it's the pregnancy hormones but you really got me tearing up 🥲

OP posts:
thistimelastweek · 22/08/2024 18:51

Didimum · 22/08/2024 17:53

Swearing is an indicator of higher intelligence. It’s been well documented.

By that measure I'm a fucking genius.

usernother · 22/08/2024 18:55

Sat to him, 'that's not very manly is it?' when he does something you don't like. It will help if you look slightly disgusted while you say it. See how he likes it.

ElBandito · 22/08/2024 18:56

Does he behave like a 'gentleman'. If not, perhaps you could helpfully point out when his behaviour is letting him down.

KreedKafer · 22/08/2024 19:05

Gifgaf · 22/08/2024 17:33

He does make a lot of misogynistic comments and it's hard to tell if he's joking or trying to get on my nerves. I usually tell him what I think straight after which I why I don't sound very "lady like" whatever that means...

He makes a lot of misogynistic comments?

He sounds like a complete cunt. Why are you putting up with this shit?

Didimum · 22/08/2024 19:16

thistimelastweek · 22/08/2024 18:51

By that measure I'm a fucking genius.

I was going to say the same 🤣

Topseyt123 · 22/08/2024 19:17

I'd just tell him straight that I don't do ladylike. If I want to swear or fart then I will.

Newsenmum · 22/08/2024 19:25

Gifgaf · 22/08/2024 17:45

It seems being myself isn't good enough lately

Has it changed lately?why is he expecting different

INeedAnotherName · 22/08/2024 19:33

Gifgaf · 22/08/2024 17:56

😞 I hope not, I am 6 months pregnant on top of it all

I'm sorry OP. If he's only recently changed it's usually one of two things. (It's like a script because it's so flipping obvious).

His head has been turned or
His partner is pregnant/recently given birth and she is placing higher expectations on him and he refuses to step up. So he DARVOs.

Tell him straight he needs to stop (although I don't think he can).

Topseyt123 · 22/08/2024 19:33

thistimelastweek · 22/08/2024 18:51

By that measure I'm a fucking genius.

Me too. 🤣

eggandchip · 22/08/2024 19:34

Im very lady like when i need to be or when at work prim and proper.
when my home im in pj with a fag swearing at youtube or the dogs next door if i have to fart i will.
On holiday im an utter slag.
Im not changing for anyone.

EarthSight · 22/08/2024 19:40

Gifgaf · 22/08/2024 17:27

At first I took it as a joke but it's all the time now. I never felt the need to change before but now it's a constant thing and it's making me feel weird ...

It sounds like your swearing is turning him off. I would be slightly tempted to start saying CUNT very loudly as your new favourite swear word, but at the same time, I don't think it's that unreasonable to have an aversion to swearing. If you have a look at some 'ick' threads on here, you'll see that women have all kinds of aversions and some of them have double standards of their own.

What would concern me a little more is that this is a new thing, and I can see why you'd feel hurt and judged. It's something to keep an eye on. I hope you doesn't put you down as routine.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 22/08/2024 19:54

I just asked my DH if I was ladylike and he laughed in my face and said no, and he's never thought of me as "ladylike".

We're people. "Ladylike" is a bit of a roundabout way of saying you should be quiet and demure and submissive. It's not a good thing. Just be yourself.

Autumnismyfavouritetimeofyear · 22/08/2024 19:54

I know a few actual Ladies (and was at uni with a non-UK princess). Most swear like troopers. He is being an arse and looking for ways to criticize you. That needs addressing.

Haroldwilson · 22/08/2024 20:09

Why does he get to police your speech?

Reminds me of a man I knew once who'd buy his wife two halves instead of a pint because pints aren't ladylike.

Dotty87 · 22/08/2024 20:17

Has he been watching Andrew Tate videos?

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