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DP's Only Fans discovery - what does a mum do?

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AskingTheVillage · 22/08/2024 09:21

Dear mums/advice-givers,

I don't know what to do and would love some advice from you all.

I have been in a relationship with my DP (not married, he hasn't asked) for 4 years and we have a 2-years-old DD. Since half-way through the pregnancy we haven't had sex more than 6 x total (6 times in approx. 2.5 years!!!). I have tried to discuss this with him many times because I definitely want to have more intimacy and sex but he seems not interested, which has been very sad. I have been feeling like a failure and unattractive to him. I also want another child and he says he does too. But always with a caveat (such as, we need a bigger house first etc.). We seem to be on different wavelengths quite a lot but never for long because we obviously have our DD's happiness to consider.

Over the last couple of months though, my senses - gut feeling, whatever you want to call it - have been sending warning signals. Bit of background - in my two previous long term relationships before this I was both times cheated on, over years! I always had a feeling something was up but was with some very talented liars who knew how to cover their tracks. I promised myself since then that I would listen more to my gut feeling.

Now my gut feeling told me for months "maybe something is up" so i started checking his phone - I know, I shouldn't but I've been so burned before. I've been spot checking on him and his ex-colleague who just seems to have a massive crush on him. They meet up for after-work drinks, so i can't gather too much what's going on but am not massively worried. But the feeling continued and the loneliness in bed too. So tonight I checked his phone again and found: he has been taking out subscriptions on various girls on Only Fans. And sending them money. Almost daily, for at least the last year. And on at least one occasion that i can see messaged one as well but i think he has deleted some messages. He seems to find some of these girls on Facebook and Instagram (we are NOT connected on either because he says he uses those only for very old friends to stay in touch, so him and I are not even linked in any way on social media, despite 4 years together).

I feel so hurt. He is looking at other women, and PAYING them. As with many people I wouldn't worry too much if it was 'just' porn but this is so much more personal. You are literally putting money in another woman's non-existing pockets.

But what do i do? I feel like it's cheating but I also feel like he will argue his way out of it. He always does with every disagreement we have.

I would love to walk out for a while to see how I feel about this but of course can't, because of our daughter. What do you do when you have a child to consider? I also can't afford rent and nursery should our relationship break up over this. It feels scarily existential to me. Hence, I've been awake all night and writing to you now. How do you stand up for your rights as a woman while safeguarding the stability of your daughter's family life? Will I just have to swallow all of this and whatever else he hasn't told me about from now until my DD has grown up? I also want another sibling for her but how do I now sleep with him without knowing if it's me or those girls he's thinking of?

what does a mother do??? I would love some advice or hear any of your experiences. I just can't wrap my head around it and don't know whom to turn to. Thank you x

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HazelPlayer · 25/08/2024 23:12

Dreamingofretirement · 25/08/2024 22:58

I have a professional/normal day job but I have done some adult work including onlyfans as an additional income stream. Most men really don’t see it as cheating in my experience, I am not defending him, I am merely saying that to him, he probably isn’t doing anything wrong, whatever we think

Would they see it as cheating if their wife/partner was doing what they're doing with a man?

Receiving explicit images of him, receiving explicit videos of him (possibly doing sex acts), watching him do sex acts in real time, possibly directing/requesting the sex acts interactively, messaging him, possibly sexting, spending money to interact with him sexually......

🙄

Their viewpoint on it is very convenient.
It wouldn't be reciprocal though.

Dreamingofretirement · 25/08/2024 23:15

HazelPlayer · 25/08/2024 23:12

Would they see it as cheating if their wife/partner was doing what they're doing with a man?

Receiving explicit images of him, receiving explicit videos of him (possibly doing sex acts), watching him do sex acts in real time, possibly directing/requesting the sex acts interactively, messaging him, possibly sexting, spending money to interact with him sexually......

🙄

Their viewpoint on it is very convenient.
It wouldn't be reciprocal though.

Edited

They probably woudl yes.

Like I said I’m not defending them, I’m just telling you what they say to me, they really don’t see it as cheating. They use they fact they are paying as justification for that

beanii · 25/08/2024 23:16

I can advise you on what you DON'T do and that's stay in an unhappy relationship. All that does is teach your daughter the same - stay where you're unhappy - she will pick up on it too.

You need to check what you're entitled to benefits wise - don't forget your partner will have to pay maintenance too.

It sounds to me as though he's only staying out of habit and thinking it's the best for your daughter.

Another thing is it's much easier on your daughter at 2 than a breakup when she's 16+.

Edenmum2 · 25/08/2024 23:17

A mum leaves.

The whole 'not being connected' on social media is bollocks. All his idea right? He's hiding something I PROMISE. The onlyfans stuff is an added level of ick. He's not the one.

Portfun24 · 25/08/2024 23:20

If my husband had only has sex with me six times in 2.5 years and was paying women on only fans. There would be nothing to think about, I'd end it.

HazelPlayer · 25/08/2024 23:28

Dreamingofretirement · 25/08/2024 23:15

They probably woudl yes.

Like I said I’m not defending them, I’m just telling you what they say to me, they really don’t see it as cheating. They use they fact they are paying as justification for that

No they wouldn't.

And they're never tested on it because it's v uncommon for women to engage in the sex industry in that way.

(Most male workers are for gay men and to a much lesser extent couples who are into things like cuckolding, threesomes etc.)

I guarantee you that if their wife or partner was doing what they're doing, they would not be ok with it.

It's easy for them to talk, when it's them doing it and not being on the receiving end of it.

Ever see that prank video when a guy pranks his partner about having cheated on her. She guesses, because he's a prankster, that his heartfelt, sorrowful admission to cheating is a prank and she pranks him back, by saying she has too. His reaction is real, you can see it's real ....and he reacts exactly the way I've seen and heard of men react when they find out their partner has had sexual interaction with another man.

All calm, stoical acceptance evaporates in an instant when they think it's real.

Violence or something near it is a common reaction.

She's generally called all the names of the day.

The comfort and commitment in the relationship usually goes from their side, not to return.

Men (well a certain type of them) are inherently hypocritical.

If they're so in favour of two way, equal access to sexual titillation & stimulation outside the relationship, why don't they offer that to their partner and if she doesn't want it, keep looking til they find a woman who does?

They don't do that cause they don't want to, they don't really want two way, equal access to sexual stimulation outside the relationship. They don't want a woman who would do that sort of thing herself.

As for the paying thing ..... Lol
Yeah, makes perfect sense.

I'm sure if their wife paid a male escort or stripper to do a personalised strip and wank for her on camera, it would all be perfectly ok, as long as she paid him and it wasn't free).

Lampzade · 25/08/2024 23:36

HazelPlayer · 25/08/2024 23:28

No they wouldn't.

And they're never tested on it because it's v uncommon for women to engage in the sex industry in that way.

(Most male workers are for gay men and to a much lesser extent couples who are into things like cuckolding, threesomes etc.)

I guarantee you that if their wife or partner was doing what they're doing, they would not be ok with it.

It's easy for them to talk, when it's them doing it and not being on the receiving end of it.

Ever see that prank video when a guy pranks his partner about having cheated on her. She guesses, because he's a prankster, that his heartfelt, sorrowful admission to cheating is a prank and she pranks him back, by saying she has too. His reaction is real, you can see it's real ....and he reacts exactly the way I've seen and heard of men react when they find out their partner has had sexual interaction with another man.

All calm, stoical acceptance evaporates in an instant when they think it's real.

Violence or something near it is a common reaction.

She's generally called all the names of the day.

The comfort and commitment in the relationship usually goes from their side, not to return.

Men (well a certain type of them) are inherently hypocritical.

If they're so in favour of two way, equal access to sexual titillation & stimulation outside the relationship, why don't they offer that to their partner and if she doesn't want it, keep looking til they find a woman who does?

They don't do that cause they don't want to, they don't really want two way, equal access to sexual stimulation outside the relationship. They don't want a woman who would do that sort of thing herself.

As for the paying thing ..... Lol
Yeah, makes perfect sense.

I'm sure if their wife paid a male escort or stripper to do a personalised strip and wank for her on camera, it would all be perfectly ok, as long as she paid him and it wasn't free).

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All of this

HazelPlayer · 25/08/2024 23:39

I have an uncle by marriage who who likes strippers and strip clubs and probably worse; his wife is "discouraged" from socialising separately from him. In fact, I've never known her to socialise separately from him.

Likewise another uncle by marriage is a cheater and touches up women who pass him at parties ...including relations.
His wife is not allowed out socially on her own. At all.

In contrast the men in the family who aren't proven cheaters and sex worker users .....their wives were free to socialise alone, as well as with them.

The sleazes and the cheats are never truly "equal minded", to the contrary they're usually quite possessive and restrictive and cagey. I wouldn't take a word any of them say about why what they do is ok and how it'd be fine if their wife did similar (nah it wouldn't) seriously.

JFDIYOLO · 26/08/2024 00:22

Stop breeding with a man who will not marry you, gives you no intimacy while being addicted to porn and spaffing family money away on women he sees as things for sale.

Have some self respect and consider the example you're setting your daughter.

There are good, respectful, loving, decent men out there.

This isn't one of them.

SaintHonoria · 26/08/2024 00:24

Even without the discovery of him paying sex workers your relationship is dead in the water -

'we haven't had sex more than 6 x total (6 times in approx. 2.5 years!!!'

SaintHonoria · 26/08/2024 00:26

Some men like to have a partner who is the mother of their child and a good housekeeper. That's it. They aren't t interested in sex and see you as more of a companion.

Dons a man who is passionate about you.

Guavafish1 · 26/08/2024 00:30

I think you’re only in the relationship to have children. I feel for your daughter who has a father that pays for sex even if it’s only web chats. It’s pathetic.

i agree with others… you either wait it out or seek help with women’s aid.

Either way your relationship was never a proper relationship from the start.

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 26/08/2024 11:23

I'm so sorry. You're within your rights to leave if you're not happy. He doesn't have a say in it or the ability to argue the toss.

Sounds like he's more of a financial support to these women than you. Not connecting on social media is a huge red flag to me and sounds like he's living his own life away from you.

Leave <and I can't stress this enough> the bastard!

You'll be so much happier

Roboticleg · 26/08/2024 15:00

Whatever your view on porn in relationships paying for only fans and complaining the house isn’t big enough is a def no no. If you showed no signs of needing sex maybe it could be justified but at that point the relationship might as well end

ns87 · 27/08/2024 12:17

I would never be able to respect him or touch him after knowing he paid onlyfans girls.

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