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Am I being abused?

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Anon129 · 14/08/2024 09:17

I'm sorry if this gets confusing. I am so low I don't even know how to function anymore. Long story but my fiancé and I have been together for 11 years, we have a child together and he has a daughter from another relationship, I have three children from previous marriage. Since the beginning he has emotionally cheated on me and I have no proof of it ever went further than that but one time he received photos from a colleague. All the women have been either work colleagues or someone he played sports with. (She was the only woman not to flirt back) He started a new job recently and already he's been more friendly than he needs to be with a colleague who is also now seeming interested in him even though she is married herself. Last night he flew abroad for work and she is with him and he was out until 2.30am. He had been sending me mixed messages all day through text calling me sweetheart then being mean to me or ignoring me completely. I asked to have 10 minutes of his time to talk and he said no. A few hours later he called me, as he heard me start to cry he started swearing at me through gritted teeth so I put the phone down as I had a panic attack. He text why I put the phone down so I said I was sorry but I was going to be sick. He didn't ask if I was ok, just replied "why?" I understand it's totally my fault because I don't have trust in him and I do appreciate everything he does like working hard so I get to be a stay at home mum but the fear of him with her is real for me. He pinched a door last week when I saw the message from her on his computer (wasn't shopping he called me into his office to showe something and it was on the screen) I asked very calmly of I could see what's been said (therapist said to communicate) and he absolutely went mad and screaming and swearing at me punched a door and scared the kids. I left his office and went to pay a board game with the kids. Today I text and asked if we are going to work this out? He replied he's not going over shxt again and he's not calling me he has a busy day. I asked of he still loves me and it was just "yes". I have signed up for therapy again as I know this is my fault and I need to trust him but he blames me for everything. He asked for an example of when he has ever started a row (he claims he has never caused any problems) I have him two examples and he flipped out swearing again and saying "yes that's right I'm an awful fxing person Iay as well end it now". But he asked for an example. I'm now sitting here feeling incredibly numb waiting for a phone call from cardiology for my heart issue and I'm trying to hold back tears. I can feel my heart pounding through my chest I just want him to talk to me. Every time I hear my phone I get a mix of hope that it's him and anxiety in case it's him.

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Bigcatpaws · 14/08/2024 12:10

Anon129 · 14/08/2024 12:05

I wamt to tell him that 10 minutes of his time for me should be acceptable but I know his reply will be swearing and that he is working so he can't call me and he'll accuse me of being too much,
I don't know really what happened to me to makee think it's acceptable, my ex husband was also abusive (drinking problem) I was very young when we met and he was ten years older and pushed for a marriage so he could get a right to stay here. I feel so stupid over that. But with my fiancé now it feels different, a different type of hurt one that hurts more than I can describe. I want to text him now and say it's over but he is due home tonight and I'm scared of a reaction. I have asked him if he could tell me of if it's over for him because this is very difficult (I was stupid to send it) but still no reply. I have an awful gut feeling it is because of her but I could be wrong. I knew he was interested because he says nasty things about the women he's interested in, like this one he said he wasn't sure if she is male or female and is very butch. She's not, she clearly and attractive younger woman and was a personal trainer

You’d be best to sort things out first ( Legal advice) before ending it.
You are right to be wary of his reaction.
Grey rock him while you get yourself prepared.

Anon129 · 14/08/2024 12:13

Bigcatpaws · 14/08/2024 12:10

You’d be best to sort things out first ( Legal advice) before ending it.
You are right to be wary of his reaction.
Grey rock him while you get yourself prepared.

Edited

What would be the first step? Contact the bank or citizens advice? Or find a job so I can afford legal advice? My head is all over the place

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MrsSlocombesCat · 14/08/2024 12:44

This is what I would do.Lock him out. You can do this by putting a key into the lock from the inside, or if it's a different kind of lock there is usually a bolt or at the very least a door chain. Before you do this pack all his clothes and belongings and leave them outside. Accept the relationship is over because he clearly doesn't love you and you deserve better. If he creates a scene, call the police emergency line. Once he has left you can get the locks changed. Thinking that you have caused any of this is ridiculous, stop those thoughts right now. He is mentally and financially abusing you.

MrsSlocombesCat · 14/08/2024 12:48

Anon129 · 14/08/2024 12:13

What would be the first step? Contact the bank or citizens advice? Or find a job so I can afford legal advice? My head is all over the place

Get him out then apply for Universal Credit. Get as much money out of the bank as you can if it's a joint account. If you have to sell the house do it under legal obligation from him and then you will be housed, or you will have the deposit for shared ownership.

Escapingafter50years · 14/08/2024 12:48

I dont know if maybe Women's Aid can arrange some legal advice for you?
But please be very careful, if he senses you're losing control things could escalate.

Also to point out that you blaming yourself means you think, deep down, that you can fix it. But if it's not your fault (it isn't!), then you can't fix it. And it is him, not you, so you can't fix it I'm afraid.

Anon129 · 14/08/2024 12:53

MrsSlocombesCat · 14/08/2024 12:44

This is what I would do.Lock him out. You can do this by putting a key into the lock from the inside, or if it's a different kind of lock there is usually a bolt or at the very least a door chain. Before you do this pack all his clothes and belongings and leave them outside. Accept the relationship is over because he clearly doesn't love you and you deserve better. If he creates a scene, call the police emergency line. Once he has left you can get the locks changed. Thinking that you have caused any of this is ridiculous, stop those thoughts right now. He is mentally and financially abusing you.

Can I legally do that? He's on the mortgage to so I'm not sure if he has legal right to be here

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KaleQueen · 14/08/2024 12:56

G5000 · 14/08/2024 11:02

I find myself begging him to talk to me and apologising. Is that me love bombing him?

No, it's begging someone who is not interested because you genuinely want him to love you. Love bombing is manipulation.

It sounds more like fawning which is a trauma response. Because you’ve been traumatised by him. Then he makes it your fault. And you get anxious and beg for him to tell you he loves you and make it all okay as the reality terrifies you so your brain won’t allow itself to comprehend it. This is not your fault, he’s a horrible person doing this to you, feeding your anxiety in this way and dominating with aggression. I’m so sorry but the first step is to see him for who he really is, not who you thought he was, or who he pretended he was, or who you want him to be. He has no respect for you and he’s destroying what little respect that you have left for yourself after years of this treatment xx

Anon129 · 14/08/2024 12:57

Bigcatpaws · 14/08/2024 12:10

You’d be best to sort things out first ( Legal advice) before ending it.
You are right to be wary of his reaction.
Grey rock him while you get yourself prepared.

Edited

I deleted my unread messages to him that just basically asked if we are over I'd like to know so I can sort myself out, he probably did read it just not opened it but it's deleted now as I'm going to seem needy to someone who couldn't care less if I was even here or not. Hoping this woman's husband sees there correspondence also, I don't understand why some people think it's ok to hurt people for their own pleasure. If he messages I will take as much time as he has to respond of I respond at all. Its going to be hard and I understand that but it just hurts so so much because despite him not loving me I do love him (stupidly)

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Anon129 · 14/08/2024 12:59

KaleQueen · 14/08/2024 12:56

It sounds more like fawning which is a trauma response. Because you’ve been traumatised by him. Then he makes it your fault. And you get anxious and beg for him to tell you he loves you and make it all okay as the reality terrifies you so your brain won’t allow itself to comprehend it. This is not your fault, he’s a horrible person doing this to you, feeding your anxiety in this way and dominating with aggression. I’m so sorry but the first step is to see him for who he really is, not who you thought he was, or who he pretended he was, or who you want him to be. He has no respect for you and he’s destroying what little respect that you have left for yourself after years of this treatment xx

Thank you, he does make me very anxious, even to ask a simple favour I think about it a lot first before I ask him

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Bigcatpaws · 14/08/2024 13:11

Anon129 · 14/08/2024 12:13

What would be the first step? Contact the bank or citizens advice? Or find a job so I can afford legal advice? My head is all over the place

Phone Rights of Women for free legal advice
I sent you the link earlier x

Bigcatpaws · 14/08/2024 13:17

Anon129 · 14/08/2024 12:57

I deleted my unread messages to him that just basically asked if we are over I'd like to know so I can sort myself out, he probably did read it just not opened it but it's deleted now as I'm going to seem needy to someone who couldn't care less if I was even here or not. Hoping this woman's husband sees there correspondence also, I don't understand why some people think it's ok to hurt people for their own pleasure. If he messages I will take as much time as he has to respond of I respond at all. Its going to be hard and I understand that but it just hurts so so much because despite him not loving me I do love him (stupidly)

Yes well done OP
this is your turning point !
Try not replying. It will be hard but he’s got used to you jumping to attention every time he says something. Ignore him and get some power back.
As for the other woman… let her have him!
It’ might make it easier for you to get him off your back..

pikkumyy77 · 14/08/2024 13:19

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Peoniesinbloom · 14/08/2024 13:19

its not your fault you dont trust him , its his.

BlastedPimples · 14/08/2024 13:19

This is so typical abusive behaviour.

You ask questions about his behaviour. He goes mad and violent. This is to deter you from asking more questions and finding out the truth.

And look at the state of you. I was the same. I know exactly how you feel. This dread. Mind fog. You can't think straight. You end up apologising. For what I never really understood.

It's setting you into panic mode. Perfect for keeping you fearful. Anxious. Worried.

Your dcs are suffering too. They absolutely are.

You need to get rid of this abusive man. He knows exactly what he's doing and why.

He's utterly vile.

Please plan your escape because it never ever gets better. It always gets worse.

BlastedPimples · 14/08/2024 13:19

And it's is absolutely not your fault.

Anon129 · 14/08/2024 13:33

Bigcatpaws · 14/08/2024 13:17

Yes well done OP
this is your turning point !
Try not replying. It will be hard but he’s got used to you jumping to attention every time he says something. Ignore him and get some power back.
As for the other woman… let her have him!
It’ might make it easier for you to get him off your back..

It is hard not to reply but I have to. This isnt fair on us as a family. Yes I pushed it because I don't trust him but does that warrant him to totally blank me? I had a panic attack last night, something I have suffered with since my last marriage, he knows how hard it is for me but he hasn't once checked on me. It got so bad once I ended up in the hospital with an extremely high heart rate, but he doesn't care

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Escapingafter50years · 14/08/2024 13:45

No he doesn't care. He is so damaged that he can't care. But that is not your fault and it is not something you can fix.

You think you love him but actually it's trauma bonding, not love. You have been conditioned, probably all your life, to take mistreatment and accept someone's word that they love you as true, even when they're tearing your soul out.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread suggest that he is in any way decent and worth trying to fix the relationship. I would think everyone agrees he is an utterly lost cause and you need to look after yourself and your child. As you can't fix him, the only thing you can do is get away from him, whatever it (safely) takes.

When you get that distance it will be easier for you to see what has been happening. At the moment you're trying to save yourself from a fire while remaining in the burning building.

CharlotteLucas3 · 14/08/2024 13:46

You know you’re being abused. You have a heart issue which I’m guessing has either been caused by him or will have been greatly exacerbated by him. Please don’t leave your children without their mother. Punching a door should be enough to leave.

Anon129 · 14/08/2024 13:51

Bigcatpaws · 14/08/2024 13:11

Phone Rights of Women for free legal advice
I sent you the link earlier x

Thank you xx

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Anon129 · 14/08/2024 14:01

Escapingafter50years · 14/08/2024 13:45

No he doesn't care. He is so damaged that he can't care. But that is not your fault and it is not something you can fix.

You think you love him but actually it's trauma bonding, not love. You have been conditioned, probably all your life, to take mistreatment and accept someone's word that they love you as true, even when they're tearing your soul out.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread suggest that he is in any way decent and worth trying to fix the relationship. I would think everyone agrees he is an utterly lost cause and you need to look after yourself and your child. As you can't fix him, the only thing you can do is get away from him, whatever it (safely) takes.

When you get that distance it will be easier for you to see what has been happening. At the moment you're trying to save yourself from a fire while remaining in the burning building.

I think you're right, I think you're all right. I can't fix him or change him. Of he wants someone else then he can go ahead because they to will see the true him

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Rincewindswind · 14/08/2024 14:49

I'm sorry to read your posts @Anon129 .
This man has you not knowing up from down. Deliberately.
It's vile and it's abusive.
By not answering your messages, Deliberately, he is keeping you in a state of fear and panic. It is a choice he is making.
I'm sorry if that's a little blunt but I hope by pointing this out you may look at his actions differently and maybe find your angry switch.
I hope so. It might help you see things more clearly.
A PP mentioned fawning, I agree.
Please get some help as soon as you are safely able to.
(No you can't kick him out if his name is on the mortgage sadly)
If he kicks off again, please call the police though.

Anon129 · 14/08/2024 14:51

Rincewindswind · 14/08/2024 14:49

I'm sorry to read your posts @Anon129 .
This man has you not knowing up from down. Deliberately.
It's vile and it's abusive.
By not answering your messages, Deliberately, he is keeping you in a state of fear and panic. It is a choice he is making.
I'm sorry if that's a little blunt but I hope by pointing this out you may look at his actions differently and maybe find your angry switch.
I hope so. It might help you see things more clearly.
A PP mentioned fawning, I agree.
Please get some help as soon as you are safely able to.
(No you can't kick him out if his name is on the mortgage sadly)
If he kicks off again, please call the police though.

No you are right. I applied this morning for changing minds to start up sessions and I have a phone call scheduled for this afternoon

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Anon129 · 14/08/2024 14:52

Rincewindswind · 14/08/2024 14:49

I'm sorry to read your posts @Anon129 .
This man has you not knowing up from down. Deliberately.
It's vile and it's abusive.
By not answering your messages, Deliberately, he is keeping you in a state of fear and panic. It is a choice he is making.
I'm sorry if that's a little blunt but I hope by pointing this out you may look at his actions differently and maybe find your angry switch.
I hope so. It might help you see things more clearly.
A PP mentioned fawning, I agree.
Please get some help as soon as you are safely able to.
(No you can't kick him out if his name is on the mortgage sadly)
If he kicks off again, please call the police though.

I didn't think I could kick him out 😔

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