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Is this normal? Re financial set up in marriage

31 replies

ailicis · 26/07/2024 16:29

Would appreciate any thoughts on my situation.

Together with my DH for 5 years, married for 2 years. We have 1 DC. I only moved in after we got marrietd mainly because it would have been difficult to relocate with my job. We tried for a baby straight away due to our ages and the plan was always I'd stay at home (so I stopped working shortly before marrying and moving in together), and he'd cover not only the household outgoings, but my living expenses before and after kids. Initially it was working pretty okay. I had a little bit of savings that I was living off (while he took care of some larger expenses of mine I mention below). After about a year however, my savings ran out- I had spent on stuff for the house (I was frequently grocery shopping for example) and for the baby because I was never entirely comfortable asking him for what was needed. Eventually I was barely scrapping enough money together to cover my direct debits (phone bill etc). It got to the point where my request for an Uber on the app was rejected due to insufficient funds in my account. I was pregnant at the time and remember just crying at the train station.

I assumed this was a communication issue so attempted to broach this topic with my DH but we both struggle a lot with this. I feel like he isn't really understand my concerns, and he says I make him feel like he isn't fufilling his duties as a husband and father, and keeps telling me that I should just tell him of what I need when I need it and he'll take care of it. And he generally has done. I had a historic tax bill he settled early on in the marriage. He also paid for my accountant for the final tax year before I stopped working. If I need something for the baby now, I'd just ask him and he will (eventually) get it. I've not asked for anything extravagant and have resorted to cheap or 2nd hand stuff in the fear of him saying no to my requests. Neither do I ask for anything for myself (I rarely buy clothes or toiletries anymore, and don't have much of a social life here).

But the issue is that I gave up a high paid job (I was supporting my family which is the main reason I have little to show for all the years I worked), and financial security to be in a position where I cannot work due to childcare commitments, I have no savings, and no access to money. I feel very financially insecure. My marriage is also not registered legally in the UK (we just had a religious ceremony) and my DH doesn't want to register it (he accused me of wanting a civil marriage so that I can "take what isn't mine"). I'm certain if he was to purchase property (we're renting at the moment), he wouldn't add me to the property deeds. We don't have any joint accounts. I don't even know how much her earns or how much savings he has, and he isn't willing to disclose any of this with me. He just wants me to continue asking him for every little thing I need. This is while my account is always empty (I don't even get child benefit paid to my account).

For those who suggest I work- I did a few days early on in the marriage and I struggled so much to stay on top of housework (this was even before I had the baby). My DH doesn't do much to help at home which wouldn't be a problem- I agreed to be a SAHM- if I felt financially secure enough not to need to work.

Thanks for reading. Thoughts appreciated.

OP posts:
ailicis · 30/07/2024 23:43

I worked a day yesterday. Arranged childcare myself. It felt really good and I mentioned to him about looking for regular work for myself. A few hours after that conversation we managed to argue about money again. He claimed that all his income is spent on family, whereas I get to keep all the money I make (I've worked so little that since I've got married I've earned on average 1000-2000 over the course of an entire year). I took myself upstairs and left him because I didn't have the energy to discuss it with him last night.

I woke up today feeling sorry for myself and in disbelief that I've got myself in this situation. I didn't prepare his breakfast nor lunch so after he finished work I was met with another round of him just shouting at me, bringing up all sorts of random stuff, like how not safety conscious I am when I hold the baby, how unclean the house is, and how I never take out the bins.

I think I'm ready to leave but I don't know how.

OP posts:
Thunderpants88 · 30/07/2024 23:53

This is insane. And to be clear, you are making excuses not to work. It doesn’t take 14 hours a day to make meals and keep a house clean. Go back to work and get a cleaner.

You are being controlled and financially abused. You have the power in your hands to leave and set an example to your child of how you should expect to be treated in a truly loving partnership.

GET. OUT

Candlelights1 · 30/07/2024 23:53

Ask Women's aid for a refuge place.
That is what you must do.

Username197 · 31/07/2024 00:39

This is awful OP. There is some very good advice already that I’d echo. You need to get your own ducks in a row to protect yourself.

Out of interest, what is your culture or religion? There are many specialist charities that may be able to support you. I’m aware of a few so could signpost you. It feels as though cultural abuse may also be a factor here x

FerreroFan · 31/07/2024 01:16

He sounds a bit like my former partner. He turned abusive once the baby came in the scene (probably thought I would be trapped, the idiot). In arguments, he would bring up random insults and criticisms. It eventually became quite threatening. He didn't earn much so I found myself still paying half all our costs whilst I was earning nothing, and questionning what he actually brought to the table as he did no housework either. I had the Child benefit paid to myself though for National insurance purposes.

We also had a religious marriage only - my choice though as I had decent savings that he didn't know about and which I wanted to keep as an escape fund. Yep, you guessed it, I left him!

I would say get yourself a job regardless of what he says. Save money if you can. If you can't and decide to leave, you can go to a refuge and apply for benefits. Speak to family and friends if you can trust them - they may be able to help support you if you leave. Definitely speak to Women's Aid or the National Abuse Helpline who will offer clear advice to you. At the very least, they will help you recognise abuse. Best of luck OP. If I can do it, you can too!

suburberphobe · 31/07/2024 01:24

What a position to get yourself into!

Please show some compassion.

Sorely lacking today in the "I'm alright Jack(ie).

No-one knows what the future may bring.

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