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The past coming back and hurting people

43 replies

momtoboys · 25/07/2024 15:38

I expect to be flogged for this, and I'm sure I deserve it. For 11 years as a young woman I had a very intense relationship with a married man who was 13 years my senior. I was completely besotted. I still consider him the love of my life. I went on to marry a wonderful man and have 5 adultish sons. I have had contact with the other man over the last 26 years because we share the same hobby but it has all been casual and platonic. My husband knows him as well. My husband and I both know the his wife but have had very little interaction.

In the past three years my ex has been diagnosed with early onset alzheimer's and it has gotten progressively worse. Recently he has been asking for a person by my name and as his wife questioned him about it he apparently acts annoyed and has told her "I loved her". She originally thought he was talking about another mutual friend who has the same first name but once she realized he wasn't talking about her she quickly figured it out and has put two and two together. So, now this poor woman is taking care of her husband who is not in his right mind while knowing he had been involved with someone else (although she could have no way of knowing how long or how intense it was). She has told some mutual friends and the story is picking up steam among people we all know. I'm imagining that she will contact/confront me at some point. I deserve everything she can come at me with. I have no excuse and I feel terrible. But this isn't about how I'm feeling.

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Shimla999 · 26/07/2024 12:19

"And where will the “love of his life” and all the friends who socialised with this woman’s husband and his mistress be? Offering to help? Nope, nowhere to be seen, just bemoaning how terrible they feel."

I agree - 100% and was thinking the same thing. It is utterly incredible - I really find it hard to believe how anyone could possibly have such little empathy, such little understanding of how terrible a situation the poor wife of this ill man is in. I feel so very sorry for her. Having been cheated on myself and having seen my mother die of Alzheimer's disease, I have a fair understanding of both issues. And there is not a lot I despise more in this world that cheating and people who cheat. I have zero sympathy for someone who cheats. Absolutely zero.

And yet people are asking the person who cheated to continue to lie. No, it doesn't surprise me, but it shocks and horrifies me. And disgusts me too. Sometimes, it is cruel to tell the truth. But it is even more cruel to cheat and to lie.

kkloo · 26/07/2024 12:21

I think you should be honest if she asks.

Maybe she'll decide she wants to leave him and no longer care for him and will get a chance of true happiness.

Soonenough · 26/07/2024 12:25

He must have thought he got away with it . Glad this has come to bite you both on the ass . 11 years !! Why didn't he leave his wife then for you? And now a decent woman is left with the knowledge of his betrayal. Probably has adult DCs now too. What a mess you two immoral selfish people have made . I hope all the friendship group finds out and shuns you .

MonsteraMama · 26/07/2024 12:27

BouquetGarni224 · 26/07/2024 10:06

I still consider him the love of my life.

How lovely for your husband.

And his wife.

Aye, you say your husband knows about your relationship with this arsehole OP, but does your poor husband know he's still playing second fiddle to him even though he made the error of marrying you?

DarkandStormyNightie · 26/07/2024 13:10

I'd be really worried about my kids finding out and I think yours will eventually. How are you going to explain it to them?
I mean an 11 year affair isn't a mistake or a whirlwind romance, it's the systematic deceit and emotional abuse of another woman over a decade long period.

You weren't the love of his life or he'd have been with you. Whatever his home setup if he loved you that much he would have been with you. That's something you really need to get your head around so you don't through the rest of your life with this 'love of my life' idea.

That's if this real of course, not sure if many people are really this callous.

northernlight20 · 26/07/2024 13:17

Vile and disgusting excuse of a woman this op is. Shame on you

momtoboys · 26/07/2024 14:35

I agree with everyone who has said how "disgusting and vile" I am. I get it. For context, not an excuse, I was 23, newly orphaned and knew no one in the city I had just moved to. He was 36 and clearly what I thought I needed at the time. I never said I was the love of his life. I know that if I had been we would be together. I did not know his wife at the time. I really don't know her now. We have attended the same events over the years and have some friends in common.

My sons may eventually find out. While I hope that doesn't happen, this is part of my past and I have to take accountability for it.

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Freeme31 · 26/07/2024 14:45

Oh dear you seem more worried about people talking about what you are, I'd imagine they've been doing that for years as it's trueThe poor woman ending up looking after a "piss poor excuse of a husband" Also a shame for your husband knowing the "type" of person he married. Wait till your children find out - but your obviously good at lying so just continued doing to all of the above mentioned people

kkloo · 26/07/2024 15:03

Wait till your children find out

In fairness kids often find out about their parents skeletons and don't really give a fuck, they might be a bit shocked in some cases but it's rare in my experience that they will judge them harshly for stuff like that.

DarkandStormyNightie · 26/07/2024 15:16

kkloo · 26/07/2024 15:03

Wait till your children find out

In fairness kids often find out about their parents skeletons and don't really give a fuck, they might be a bit shocked in some cases but it's rare in my experience that they will judge them harshly for stuff like that.

Your experience is your experience, that's fine

My experience is that this situation can cast a very long shadow.

DarkandStormyNightie · 26/07/2024 15:38

For context, not an excuse, I was 23, newly orphaned and knew no one in the city I had just moved to. He was 36 and clearly what I thought I needed at the time

That might have be an excuse for a quick fling but doesn't really excuse 11 years of enabling the systemic gaslighting and emotional abuse of his poor wife for over a decade!

momtoboys · 26/07/2024 17:17

I've been trying to figure out where in my posts I seem more concerned about what people are saying about me than about my exs wife. I'm truly not. If people have long memories they will have already been talking about it anyway at some point and as I said earlier my husband knows all about it. This relationship ended 25 years ago. I do feel for her. From what I have heard their life is terribly difficult right now and as horrible as many of you think I am I would not want to make her life harder.

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BlastedPimples · 26/07/2024 17:22

I wonder if your husband has somebody on the side.

Would you mind?

BlastedPimples · 26/07/2024 17:23

And you only feel for her now. Not when you were fucking her husband for 11 years.

You sound so phoney with all this sudden concern for her well being.

It's actually foul.

Whatado · 26/07/2024 19:19

momtoboys · 26/07/2024 17:17

I've been trying to figure out where in my posts I seem more concerned about what people are saying about me than about my exs wife. I'm truly not. If people have long memories they will have already been talking about it anyway at some point and as I said earlier my husband knows all about it. This relationship ended 25 years ago. I do feel for her. From what I have heard their life is terribly difficult right now and as horrible as many of you think I am I would not want to make her life harder.

You weren't 23 when the affair ended.

Does your husband know he has always been a poor second to the love of your life? That he has socialised with over the years?

The lengths people go to, to remove agency and manipulate others lives for their own gain is truly astounding. All those people who knew her and watched her be humiliated in plain site. Heartbreaking for her.

If she asks tell her the truth. Personally I would be putting him in a home and supporting my kids relationship with him but I wouldn't give what was left of my life to care for someone who treated me so appalling.

As for your kids it will be what it is. Personally I don't have any way the same feelings for my parent who had an affair. I don't respect them and mostly keep my mouth shut for wider family peace. But I would 100% support my mother separating from my father in these circumstances.

Elasticatedtrousers · 26/07/2024 20:15

Over and over on thread after thread there are people telling a poster not to say anything about an affair because ‘it’s none of your business’ and ‘you’re just in it for drama’ etc etc

Here we have the very real fallout from this thinking. A woman who was abused emotionally (gaslighting, manipulation, lying) for 11 years, had her right to informed sexual consent removed and her personal agency taken. Common knowledge but people kept quiet, for her then to lead what can only be described as a lie for a further 20+ years and is now nursing the man who treated her like absolute shit.

And now in pain due to his bleating on about OW.

I can’t even begin to think of the life she could have led or maybe would have dreamed of leading if so many people hadn’t been complicit in this.

@momtoboys i was young once, I went through hardships, I was never involved in something so utterly destructive and cruel. If she asks don’t gaslight and lie to her give her her personal agency back. Let her make her choices about how she moves forward with her life!

BlastedPimples · 26/07/2024 21:59

Such dreadful shitty people. And even now refusing to recognise their shittiness. Get lost.

clickclack8 · 23/11/2024 08:33

you can’t have been that young if you had an 11 year affair with him and then since that have married and had 5 adult sons!!

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