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Issues with my FIL

46 replies

Avh260 · 24/07/2024 17:48

Hi Everyone really hoping you can help!

We lost my MIL in Jan last year, she asked my husband to take care of his Dad no matter what. My husband has never been close to his Dad, his Dad is a very difficult and demanding character, ex RAF, selfish, arrogant, stuck in his ways, materialistic and frankly rude. We’re talking a man that makes a spreadsheet at the beginning of the week with all his meals and used to click at his wife if she forgot to put serviettes on the dinner table.

So as you would we took his Dad under our wing, he came over every month or we went there. My husband went and stayed with him when his back went, we cooked and sent food over for him, we took him on 4 holidays and it meant we couldn’t enjoy our holidays because everything had to be what his Dad wanted (every day to go to the pub) we could only have sandwiches and pork pie for lunch, never go out for more than an hour at a time as he got bored. He never once during those holidays asked us if we wanted to go out as a couple and offered to look after the kids for us. We lost the only person we have to look after our boys when his mum died and we haven’t had a date night since!

anyway on one of the weekends we went to stay at his Dads I bathed my son and I went downstairs to watch TV. I left the bathroom light on for 2 hours and he went ballistic - said I was wasteful and we were wasteful as a family and whenever he comes to our house it’s like blackpool illuminations! he had been drinking but he was vile!
I apologised and I offered to pay for the extra electricity but he wouldn’t leave it. I walked out and told him he was a pathetic sad man to worry about such a trivial thing and I went to bed. He then started on my husband and the kids were at the top of the stairs crying - they had a full blown row and my husband packed us all up in the morning and we went home early. I said goodbye to my FIL but he ignored me, he was dressed in his going out clothes (he has house clothes for if he’s staying in) and it turned out he’d already invited his girlfriend over to eat the Sunday dinner we were meant to be cooking for him!

So yes, the girlfriend - 1 of my MILs friends!!

We’ve seen him since the argument but I kept out of his way, and I didn’t want him to come to my house especially after everything his dad had said. I vowed never to go to his house again but we are going away next month and he asked to see us before we go so my husband has arranged for us to go and stay for a night tomorrow. He went over alone to take him out for Father’s Day and met his girlfriend which he says he is fine with but I can tell he’s struggling.

His dads moved on so quickly and keeps trying to shove her in our faces, fitting her into his wife’s shoes, taking her to all the places they used to go it’s weird. Anyway, I don’t want to go to his house let alone sleep over! He’s invited his girlfriend and I’m really not interested in playing happy families. I feel so angry after everything we’ve done for him at the way I’ve been treated. I literally HATE him. Do I put my foot down and say I’m not going and risk falling out with my husband or do I go and suck it up and just be civil? The problem is I’m so angry I don’t know if I can? I’m not gonna make it easy for him, he certainly hasn’t for me and I resent him so much.

what do I do?

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Avh260 · 24/07/2024 20:41

I am starting to worry I think that’s the other reason I put my foot down. He bullies the kids like he bullies me with his words. I know it’s not ok but it’s just the way he speaks to me, he doesn’t seem to respect me at all.

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Eddielizzard · 24/07/2024 21:01

Avh260 · 24/07/2024 20:41

I am starting to worry I think that’s the other reason I put my foot down. He bullies the kids like he bullies me with his words. I know it’s not ok but it’s just the way he speaks to me, he doesn’t seem to respect me at all.

Are you talking about your DH or your FIL?

Hoppinggreen · 24/07/2024 21:06

He isn't your father, you don't have to have a relationship with him.
Leave your DH to deal with him and don't see him if you don't want to

Avh260 · 24/07/2024 21:18

DH

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LaughingElderberry · 24/07/2024 21:21

Sounds like your H is the bigger problem here. Willing to put up with his father's nasty bullying ways because he doesn't want to risk any chance of him cashing in when his father dies. Putting pressure on you to put up and shut up and play nice so as not to jeopardise his future money pot. Calling you hormonal when you - understandably - don't want to spend any time with his vile father. The apple really didn't fall far from the tree, did it?

Aquamarine1029 · 24/07/2024 21:24

I think you're so angry because you now realise your husband is just like his father.

Get rid of both of them.

Bodeganights · 24/07/2024 21:28

apparently I’m just a bitter hormonal woman!

Wtaf, well I'd be a fucking bitter hormonal woman on my husbands entire self after that misogynistic shite. He would never dare say anything like that twice.

As for fil, dont ever visit him again, dont ever be home if he comes to visit your house. If your husband is so bothered, he can do all the visiting alone, organising if his father comes to stay. Have nothing to do with the bastard fil ever again.

Avh260 · 24/07/2024 21:36

I’ve stood up to him and said that and I just get accused of it being hormones and I’m unreasonable. Feel like he’s gas lighting me!

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Avh260 · 24/07/2024 21:37

I totally agree and I actually didn’t think of that. I feel for my poor boys having to deal with him and their partners and children when they are older and me having to apologise and make excuses for him.

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Allthehorsesintheworld · 24/07/2024 21:39

Apparently I’m just a bitter hormonal woman!

I’m afraid you’re seeing your future with your husband. He’s learnt well from his father. This isn’t good for you or your children.

Unforgettablefire · 24/07/2024 21:41

This sort of thing is often learned behaviour. Please don't let your boys grow up like him.
They both sound like horrible men I'm so sorry for you.

Avh260 · 24/07/2024 21:43

That’s what I thought today when I was at work but I don’t know what to do.

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leeverarch · 24/07/2024 21:50

Avh260 · 24/07/2024 20:41

I am starting to worry I think that’s the other reason I put my foot down. He bullies the kids like he bullies me with his words. I know it’s not ok but it’s just the way he speaks to me, he doesn’t seem to respect me at all.

The apple didn't fall all that far from the tree, did it?

Bodeganights · 24/07/2024 21:51

Avh260 · 24/07/2024 21:36

I’ve stood up to him and said that and I just get accused of it being hormones and I’m unreasonable. Feel like he’s gas lighting me!

So what if it was hormones, doesn't change a damn thing. Still not going. Call it whatever you like to make you feel better. STILL NOT GOING.
Say that to your husband.

Avh260 · 24/07/2024 21:55

What can I do? It’s their Dad and for the majority of the time they love him.

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EnglishBluebell · 24/07/2024 22:48

What does him having been in the RAF have to do with anything??? It's not an entire race you know! There are both dickheads and sweethearts in the RAF ffs. As there are in the Navy etc or any other organisation. Biscuit

EnglishBluebell · 24/07/2024 22:56

As for your situation, LTB. Your DH is a bully who's been raised by a bully. Get your kids as far away from him as possible

Candlelights1 · 25/07/2024 07:31

You poor woman, married to a pig whose father is a pig.
You and your poor children deserve better.
Time to call Womens aid for advice and support.
You do not have to rush into a decision.
You can decide if you wish to remain married to such a vile man.
If you don't, then you start planning hoe to get out.

Andwegoroundagain · 25/07/2024 07:37

OP. If this is a one off sort of argument with your DH then I'd try to set it aside. If it's a pattern then maybe consider what PP have said.
If it's a one off, then DH was prepared to make an excuse for you not to go. He wants to have some kind of relationship with FIL and I don't think you should get in the way of that. However unpleasant FIL is. That's for DH to deal with.
You don't have to of course and you can just not go and not have FIL in your house. You've not said how FIL is towards the DC, if he's decent then probably I'd let them go visit for the day too. I
Personally I'd just be stepping back from the whole thing and leaving it to DH to deal with

Cherrysoup · 25/07/2024 10:14

Your not so DH can deal with his father, no reason for you to go. Is he hoping to dilute the effect he has on him, his own ds? Tough if he won’t stand up to his horrible behaviour.

SeeSeeRider · 25/07/2024 10:31

Choux · 24/07/2024 18:06

A Light bulb will use around 0.01kwh, which costs around 0.34p per hour.

www.homegroup.org.uk/manage-my-home/renters/money-benefits-and-wellbeing-support/help-with-your-energy-bills/understanding-your-energy-usage#

So he lost his rag for less than a penny. He's uninformed and irrational. Give him a wide berth.

If he's an old git, he might be using incandescents, 100 watts would be 10 times your calculation, but still not very much.

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