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Should I just do it?

36 replies

Horsiemum2022 · 24/07/2024 09:16

This is my first post on here so please bear with me. I’m also dyslexic so apologies if I make any mistakes.

i have been with my husband for 10 years, there is an age gap of 20 years and this maybe relevant to my issue?? He has been married twice before and has 2 prior children (one from each marriage) both adults.

We have 2 children together ages 2&4. Hubby has always been a big personality, confident and self assured. This is what attracted me too him along with the love bombing! (I didn’t really realise at the time)

he made me feel loved and cared for and I fell for him hard. I feel the need to say he was separated when we met so there was no infidelity.

we got married 4 years ago and to be honest things weren’t perfect but I felt we were strong enough to work.

our arguments are 99% centred around sex! Always have been. Hubby has always been the leader in our relationship. I have always been ok with that in our general life situations. I won’t say controlling as I feel
that’s unfair as I have always allowed this dynamic although as I have grown older I have developed the opinion the relationship should be more balanced.

Anyway over the years sex has caused a massive issue in our relationship causing much stress. In the beginning as in most relationships we had a lot of sex. This was very exciting for hubby as he had been married for about 13 years prior and I think it had fizzled a little. Also without being crude his ex wife had 3 children in total
so I think anatomically I felt “different”

Things started off great but a few little
things cropped up that set off alarm bells like him saying that I wasn’t to ever wear clothes in bed. He found it disrespectful and apparently his ex would wear clothes when they had arguments to punish him. At the time I was blinded by how I felt about him I just went along with it.

fast forward 10 years I still go to bed with no clothes even when all I want to do is put a cosy pair of pjs on. This is not as much of as issue as sex. Hubby believes it’s my duty as his wife to fill any and all of his sexual needs.

in the beginning it wasnt much of an issue as I was happy to “put out” regularly but I quickly noticed he was rather selfish in that department and did very little to “warm me up” or ensure that I was “satisfied”

Again in the beginning I just went with it and just thought over time he would become passionate and willing towards me. HOW WRONG WAS I??!!

Dont get me wrong very rarely when we have got to the point of almost breaking up he has put a bit of effort in but not enough.

I do genuinely love hubby so have tried many things to try and get him to give me as much attention as he requires himself.

One day he told me for his special birthday he would love another woman to join us. I wasn’t offended by this and even thought he might make more effort towards me if I could arrange it. Unfortunately I couldn’t find anyone in time and he never made a big deal out of it. However did occasionally mention that he would love it to happen one day. I decided to try and look for him and he was a little more attentive towards me. To cut a long story short I did eventually find someone and it didn’t go as I had expected. I invited her round for drinks to hopefully build up a bit of excitement but in no way expected anything to happen that night as hubby was fully aware I was on my period. Well to my horror after about 20 mins my husband is on our living room floor doing the deed with the woman. I didn’t make a scene and remained polite and took her home after.

the next day I explained to hubby that I was upset that it went the way it did as hubby had always said his fantasy was to have it with me involved too. Anyway we chatted about it and I felt he responded appropriately to me and apologise that he got carried away in the moment. Unfortunately it didn’t have the effect I had hoped for and hubby still wasn’t as attentive as I had hoped when it came to our intimacy. I was getting annoyed as he’s demanding and expects me to satisfy him regularly especially when im not
in the mood. My sex drive has dropped since having the children and I feel a lot less sexy and gained weight.

anyway we row when I don’t keep him “satisfied” and he is very nasty with it. He says it affects his mental
health and refuses to work to earn money and then my life would fall apart. Hes the sole bread winner in our house and uses this all the time but in the same
breath says I can’t work as I have children to look after.

I got annoyed one day and said that we should make it even and I should experience another and him not be involved. He said ok!! I was shocked but decided to go for it. He helped me find someone and I did the deed. I won’t go into detail but this guy paid more attention to my “needs” than hubby ever has! Hubby was in the room and watched. I think in some ways he enjoyed watching. After he said although he wasn’t involved he felt an element of control as he had allowed it to happen and that he could have stopped it if he wanted to.

it was the best sex I had had in a really long time but most importantly he wasn’t selfish. I think this opened my eyes up even more that sex should be about both parties being happy and satisfied.

it’s now a month since, hubby expects be to be very attentive to him but he won’t even as much as kiss me when he’s in the mood he just expects me to get too it and sort him
out and I’m sick of it. We are currently
on holiday for a week and he has made it miserable because I have not “carried out my wife duties” however I would have but he has been so nasty to me.

i suppose my question is AIBU as I have always allowed this behaviour from him and only since having children have I challenged him. Have we done the wrong thing by looking to fulfil desires in other people? Should I just give him
what he wants when he wants it for an easy life even though I don’t want to or get anything out of it?

OP posts:
ProvincialLady2024 · 24/07/2024 09:21

Oh Op. please read back what you have posted. It reads as abuse to me.

RishiIsACuntWaffle · 24/07/2024 09:21

Get rid. Absolutely fucked up.

Pottedpalm · 24/07/2024 09:24

Is this for real?

Cinocino · 24/07/2024 09:31

Very rarely do I think the “leave” advice is warranted based on one extremely limited post but this is an utter shit show. You need to get out of this.

Have we done the wrong thing by looking to fulfil desires in other people?
Obviously.
Should I just give himwhat he wants when he wants it for an easy life even though I don’t want to or get anything out of it?
wtf?!!

AquaFurball · 24/07/2024 09:32

Contact Women's Aid. Tell them all of that and LTB. It is not your duty, it's rape.

Meepmeepthebeepbeep · 24/07/2024 09:39

you do realise men like this go for younger woman to manipulate, control and abuse them don’t you? Please contact woman’s aid so they can help you see what an abusive relationship looks like especially when there’s an imbalance of power, he knows deep down a woman of his own age probably wouldn’t put up with this crap.
Your relationship is not healthy and it’s very toxic as well as abusive, I felt sick reading your post. This isn’t normal, not in the slightest.
Best thing you can do is either try and get support from friends and family so you can leave with the kids as well as try and gain employment so you have independence.
There’s a reason why his other marriages have never worked out.

Lmnop22 · 24/07/2024 12:35

The fact you don’t see that this is vile, abusive behaviour goes to show the extent to which he’s brainwashed you.

Just imagine what you’d say if your daughter told you this is how her partner treated her when she was older. What would you say?

You might be too close to the situation to be able to properly step back and see it for what it is but your husband does not love you, does not care about you or your feelings or your pleasure. He uses you as a sex toy, manipulates and forces you into having sex him when you say you don’t want to and makes you sleep naked as a degrading act to mark you out as his property and sexual object.

I do not understand how you can love this man when he does these things to you!

Please, do not walk but run!

Horsiemum2022 · 26/07/2024 09:42

Thank you for all the advise, I think I feel worse now. I wasn’t even thinking about leaving him and now I have a constant worry because deep down that’s how it will end. I just don’t know how and when. I will loose the home we live in as I can’t afford it alone.

OP posts:
Lmnop22 · 26/07/2024 09:44

Horsiemum2022 · 26/07/2024 09:42

Thank you for all the advise, I think I feel worse now. I wasn’t even thinking about leaving him and now I have a constant worry because deep down that’s how it will end. I just don’t know how and when. I will loose the home we live in as I can’t afford it alone.

You do know how and when if you take control and end it yourself.

Make a plan to move in with family or somewhere else temporarily, then take back control, leave him and sort out the house and finances later.

You can’t stay with someone because you’ll lose the house. Houses are no replacement for happiness!

misskatamari · 26/07/2024 09:45

Please please leave him ❤️

Oneearringlost · 26/07/2024 09:52

He's raping you. That's it.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 26/07/2024 09:53

I’m so sorry you’re going through this! What a disgusting pig of a man! This is sexual abuse and rape.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 26/07/2024 09:56

I suggest you get this moved from AIBU to relationships. You’ll get much better advice.

I would seriously consider leaving him. Move out and live with family/friends because you deserve so much more than him. If you feel ready/want to, you can report him to the police for domestic abuse. His behaviour is controlling and coercive.

Horsiemum2022 · 26/07/2024 10:10

I don’t know how to move it?

OP posts:
Cardamomandlemons · 26/07/2024 10:10

It's horrible. You are young, you have time to start again, you shouldn't be living this way. Get as much help as you can to leave before your kids get older and think it's normal.

HoppingPavlova · 26/07/2024 10:37

I do genuinely love hubby

Why? How? I wouldn’t be able to tolerate the person you describe, let alone like them, let alone love them. Bleugh.

bridgetreilly · 26/07/2024 10:44

He does not love you, OP. He uses you for sex. He is now using you to arrange the rest of his sex life.

Please leave him now. Do you have family you can go to?

bridgetreilly · 26/07/2024 10:46

Horsiemum2022 · 26/07/2024 10:10

I don’t know how to move it?

Pack suitcases for you and the kids, call a taxi and go. To family or friends, a women’s refuge, an AirBNB. Wherever you can find. Get a divorce lawyer and show them this post. Get a counsellor. If you are worried about financial abuse, talk to the bank and make sure you will not lose access. Just do it and work out the logistics later.

GreatTheCat · 26/07/2024 10:53

God, what an absolute abusive arse. I don't often feel angry on here but this has got me going.
Leave him, just do it.

AntiHop · 26/07/2024 10:56

My god op he's treating you so horrendously. I agree with all the above. You need to leave.

Testina · 26/07/2024 10:57

Jesus.
No wonder he’s on his third wife and deliberately targeted someone TWENTY YEARS younger, who didn’t have the life experience to spot him for the abusive arsehole rapist that he is.

His sob story about that oh so nasty ex punishing him for putting PJs on 🙄 I guess you see now that she was also an abused and raped woman, trying to assert a boundary and have some dignity?

My cousin is not long out of a 30 year relationship where she’s not discussing with a therapist all the things she thought were normal for a husband and wife. Basically, that she was a slave to his sexual demands, because he was her husband. End of. Nope - she’s been systematically raped for 30 years 😢🤬

Please… speak to Women’s Aid, you deserve so much more than this piece of scum xx

FamiliaF · 26/07/2024 11:00

You deserve a fulfilling sexual relationship. Sex should be a mutual experience of pleasure and connection, not a duty or obligation. That's important to remember.
You deserve a fulfilling sexual relationship. Sex should be a mutual experience of pleasure and connection, not a duty or obligation. If he's not working with you on this then you know what's next...

HerculesShipwright · 26/07/2024 11:08

Please OP listen to the advice given. You are being abused. Is there anyone you can turn to and talk to and help you get out of this relationship?

StripeyDeckchair · 26/07/2024 11:10

Read your post.
What would you say if a friend told you this?

This relationship is never going to last.
You need to get a job and income of your own and plan to leave.

He is abusive and such behaviour only ever gets worse.

Octoberdreaming · 26/07/2024 11:17

You poor woman and your poor kids too - what a terrible example of a husband and father he is. Get out asap OP.

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