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AIBU or is he dead inside

54 replies

Grindinghog · 13/07/2024 22:09

This evening I was building furniture in another room. One of the parts fell, hit me in the face/mouth and clattered to the floor.

OH asks from the other room - are you okay? I said no.

He walks into the room, I'm crouched on the floor holding my face (with tears streaming down my face) and explained that it had hit me in the mouth.

He stood for a second, then our child came in the room and he left with her.

AIBU to have expected bit more compassion? He didn't even come in the fucking room properly, didn't ask if he could help or to look and assess if there was any real damage etc.

OP posts:
IamaRevenant · 13/07/2024 23:03

Grindinghog · 13/07/2024 22:49

@sandrapinchedmysandwich no he didn't return afterwards, and I wouldn't say he had the emotional intelligence to be attempting to "shield our child from trauma"

Sorry to say but it sounds from you've said that he was shielding himself from any effort/care towards you. Not your DD from trauma.

I grew up partly on a working farm and travelling a lot and my dad worked at home as a carpenter, so I'm sure you can imagine there were quite a few accidents. If my dad had walked away from mum when she hurt herself and I'd witnessed it THAT would have traumatised me than being led away from my mum when I could see she was in pain!

Aquamarine1029 · 13/07/2024 23:04

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 13/07/2024 22:12

He asked if you were OK and protected your child from potential trauma. I don't think he is wrong here

Potential trauma? What a leap.

Rhaidimiddim · 13/07/2024 23:05

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 13/07/2024 22:12

He asked if you were OK and protected your child from potential trauma. I don't think he is wrong here

Not exactly modelling desirable behaviour, either.

"Ooh, Mummy's hurt and bleeding. Let's not help her, eh?"

Grindinghog · 13/07/2024 23:05

I genuinely think this might be my "dishes by the sink" moment. I can't bear to sleep in the same bed as him tonight, I feel so resentful.

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IamaRevenant · 13/07/2024 23:06

@pikkumyy77 exactly this. Kids need to know they're a united front (assuming still married!)

'As for the one who thinks children need protection from trauma: sure but they need to know that their parents can take care of each ither and manage small household crises even more'

pikkumyy77 · 13/07/2024 23:08

I’m so sorry you are going through this but if it is your “dishes” moment I hope you will soon feel like you have removed an enormous millstone from around your neck. Why waste a minute of your precious life with someone who is too indifferent to even pretend to care?

QueenCamilla · 13/07/2024 23:08

RenoDakota · 13/07/2024 22:52

Crap. Probably more traumatic for the poor child seeing their crying mother not being comforted by their father.

That's the thing.
As a child I'd take away from this that my dad will never have my back if I get hurt and he'll never give comfort in diffcult/sad/painful situations.

The same how I learned not to confide in short-tempered adults (even if never aimed at me) just in case I somehow incur their wrath.

It's a dysfunctional behaviour on display by OP's husband and much more traumatic than someone crying over stubbed toe, twisted ankle or bumped lip.

Sidandnance · 13/07/2024 23:08

Grindinghog · 13/07/2024 22:48

Thank you everyone for the reassurance. As I said this kind of behaviour is normal for him but it still comes as a surprise and is hurtful when it happens. I have considered leaving, quite frequently. Things are extremely bland, we don't do anything together as a couple anymore, no affection etc. Day to day things are just ticking along, we have a shared interest that is our child, we don't argue and things are just "okay".

But it's extremely hurtful in instances like this, or when one might hope for words of support, praise or affirmation and they fail to come.

I have told him how I feel, probably not in the best way but I was upset. We haven't spoken since then which was around an hour ago.

if your relationship is in the doldrums then his behaviour is unlikely to change much. Has it always been like this?

Aquamarine1029 · 13/07/2024 23:09

There is absolutely no point in being married to someone who can't even pretend to give a fuck about you. He has so little value for you that he can't even manage to fake it.

Fuck that. A literal stranger would show you more concern.

Dweetfidilove · 13/07/2024 23:09

The only person this man was protecting from trauma was himself. I'd hazard a guess he removed the child so he/she also couldn't comfort the OP.

YANBU at all.

Rhaidimiddim · 13/07/2024 23:13

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 13/07/2024 22:23

The op was crouched on the floor with tears pouring down their face. That could be very traumatising for a child. I was traumatised by toilet seats as a child. Ridiculous now but small children need protecting from seeing their mother in a heightened state of distress. We don't know if the op's partner came back after. He probably should have once their child was ok. But in the moment he didn't do anything wrong

Yes he bl@@dy did!

Mummy's hurt and crying, but we're not going to do anything to help her.

Or show any concern. That's the bit that's missing here. He showed no concern.

Grindinghog · 13/07/2024 23:16

@Rhaidimiddim you're right, if he had left but spoken to me from the other room to check in again after leaving I wouldn't be feeling this way.

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Nevernote · 13/07/2024 23:19

My DH is exactly the same. Zero empathy for me, plenty for other people. I often used to joke that if we were in a car crash, he'd be more concerned about the people in the other car than me. Ultimately the joke was on him: we were in a car crash and I was more concerned about the people in the other car than I was about him. You reap what you sow. His lack of empathy for spares me bothering to have any for him.

NB: I know I am not describing a particularly happy or healthy relationship.

Grindinghog · 13/07/2024 23:26

@nevernote I'm really sorry you also have to experience this kind of life. It's soul destroying.

Frequently (daily) when I'm speaking to him about our child, or my day or anything really, he doesn't even look up to acknowledge that I'm talking or respond.

There have been times I've stopped mid sentence to see if he would notice and he doesn't.

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MonsteraMama · 13/07/2024 23:31

My daughter saw me take a tumble from my horse and hurt my wrist when she was four. My husband rushed straight to me, daughter came too, and together they wiped my tears and tended to me. It taught my daughter compassion, it taught her that mum is human and cries and has bad moments but that everything will be ok, it taught her that dad will come to the rescue. She's 16 now and remembers it positively, because she felt really grown up helping dad make mum feel better.

Honestly, there is always, always one person who will leap on a thread and immediately do some mental gymnastics to try and defend men's shit behaviour when the rest of us can read between the lines and see that this is the straw, not an isolated incident. I'm so sorry OP, coldness and disinterest in you are not virtuous and you're right to feel hurt.

Rhaidimiddim · 13/07/2024 23:31

Grindinghog · 13/07/2024 23:05

I genuinely think this might be my "dishes by the sink" moment. I can't bear to sleep in the same bed as him tonight, I feel so resentful.

I get you. I am so very sorry for your situation.

A lifetime ago, when I was 9 months pregnant, my then-husband decided he wanted to cook the Sunday roast. He wanted to practice for hosting his friend's* 30th later that month.

Hero cooking (he never cooked) so every sodding pan out, stuff strewn everywhere, mess, mess, mess....

I asked if I could help. He said yup, open.tje wine, let it breathe. I slipped in the grease ( seriously, he got cooking oil of the floor) and I ended up on the floor, a pregnant whale in a mess of red wine and shattered glass. He reacted by being pissed off at the mess of the shattered wine - no concern for me at all.

Look up.narcissist personality disorder, do some of the questionnaires, see if some bells ring.

  • Found out 3 months later he was having an affair with her
bozzabollix · 14/07/2024 07:57

Are you married to a medic? I’d have to be dying to merit attention over an injury. It’s annoying.

Grindinghog · 14/07/2024 08:02

@bozzabollix congratulations to you for being so tough and independent 👏🏼

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Tv23456 · 14/07/2024 08:14

I really hope it is your dishes moment.
You are clearly wasting your life away.

Staringatthewalljustmeagain · 14/07/2024 08:20

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 13/07/2024 22:12

He asked if you were OK and protected your child from potential trauma. I don't think he is wrong here

Jesus fucking Christ 😂

bozzabollix · 14/07/2024 08:20

Grindinghog · 14/07/2024 08:02

@bozzabollix congratulations to you for being so tough and independent 👏🏼

Eh? I wish I didn’t have to be. It’d be lovely to have a bit of sympathy, I was just pondering whether that was why your husband was behaving in that way. But you’ve obviously taken it as self congratulatory. It’s anything but.

Staringatthewalljustmeagain · 14/07/2024 08:22

Grindinghog · 14/07/2024 08:02

@bozzabollix congratulations to you for being so tough and independent 👏🏼

I think you misconstrued what that poster was saying. Those of us who are or are married to or related to people who are medics/doctors will know that they have the least compassion for any injuries or illnesses at home. It’s probably compassion fatigue because of their job or because they see people at the serious end of the scale all the time, so don’t have much time for anything minor.

Grindinghog · 14/07/2024 08:24

Sorry 😞 I've woken up in a foul mood and I did misunderstand. He's not a medic he works in the construction industry

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Sunshinethrumywindow · 14/07/2024 08:37

I couldn't be with someone who showed no emotions or love, that's the bare minimum.

Nevernote · 14/07/2024 08:49

Grindinghog · 13/07/2024 23:26

@nevernote I'm really sorry you also have to experience this kind of life. It's soul destroying.

Frequently (daily) when I'm speaking to him about our child, or my day or anything really, he doesn't even look up to acknowledge that I'm talking or respond.

There have been times I've stopped mid sentence to see if he would notice and he doesn't.

Exactly the same here. My DH seems to think responding to a comment or even a question from me is optional. Sometimes I do the same to him, and of course he doesn't like it and insists I answer.