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Is my mum a narcissist?

9 replies

Blackcatsarecool · 09/07/2024 00:28

I was raised by my dad and only saw my mum for half of every second Christmas holiday. My brother and I lived with my dad and my half brother and sister lived with my mum. Looking back, their life was a disaster, my half sister told me my mum kicked my half brother out of the house when he was 9 and he lived on the streets on and off until he became an adult. She also had a string of abusive relationships. When I was a teen, mum and I reconnected and I lived with her for around a year before I moved back in with my dad. She has always been a hard person to get along with. Fast forward to now, I’m 47 and have 4 wonderful children ranging from mid 20’s to 17 and a beautiful little grand daughter who’s almost 4. My mum has no relationship with any of her children or her 17 grandchildren or great grand children. I’ve always felt sorry for her because she tells me she’s lonely and no one has anything to do with her so I’ve always tried to call her daily and visit her with my kids and grand daughter when I can. (My kids don’t like her either and two of my kids refuse to see her).
My daughter and her husband recently had a still birth at 33 weeks. I called my mum and asked her to come to the funeral. She lives around 1.5 hours away and has a car. She told me her car’s unreliable and I’d have to pick her up. I didn’t really want to leave my daughter so I asked my mum via text message if she could come with my Aunty in her car and she said no. She said she’d be there in spirit and not to make it bigger than it has to be. I haven’t replied to her, and she hasn’t contacted me. It’s been about month now. No call, no text. Not even a card or bunch of flowers for my daughter who was the only grand child (Out of 18 grand kids) who spoke to her. Right before it all happened my mum told me she’s started talking to my brother And his family again. She told him no one in the family speaks to her and she’s lonely… so it seems as though she’s dumped me during one of the hardest and saddest times of my life, when I’ve lost my second grand child. Her absence was obviously very hurtful but not surprising. After everything I’ve done for her, put up with her argumentative personality, biting my tongue and saying nothing to keep the peace with her over the years because I thought she was lonely and couldn’t help the way she was… not coming to her great grandson’s funeral is unforgivable now. Not sending a text message or a phone call to my daughter to express her sympathy is unforgivable and not being here to support me through this is also unforgivable. She’s not a mother and even though she seems to have dumped me, If the time ever arises where she contacts me, I’ll never speak to her again. I often wonder if my mother is a narcissist and she’s now getting her narcissistic supply from my brother and his family? She walked away from me and mine very easily.

OP posts:
Venice241 · 09/07/2024 00:36

She is an awful person.
Surely her throwing out a small child would have shown you that.
Why did you insist on inflicting her on your children?

Be glad she has moved on like the user grifter that she is and that your father was there for you.
She isn't worth thinking about.
Respect your children and keep her away from them.

Girlmom35 · 09/07/2024 09:56

I don't think anyone who doesn't know your mother can judge whether she's a narcissist.
She is however a truly horrible human being.
I'm sorry you've had to go through the pain of her cold rejections, but honestly you're better off. Save your energy for people who deserve it.

TwoThousandAcresofBlueSkyThinking · 09/07/2024 10:11

IME of people with strong narcissistic tendencies they do tend to dislike immensely someone else having the attention, even for something like the death of their child.

They also are unable to empathise in any way. She may or may not be a narcissist but, from what you have said about her, she sounds like someone best avoided to protect yourself and your family.

I'm sorry for the loss of your grandchild Flowers

Debs2024 · 20/07/2024 10:12

She has had no relationship with any of her extended family but wants the benefit of their attention! Please don’t expect her to suddenly turn into someone who cares now she is older because she does not know how. Leave her in the past where she belongs enjoy your family and rely on them and forget her.

cupcaske123 · 20/07/2024 10:33

Narcissism is a very overused term and I'm not sure it applies here.

OP some people simply aren't very nice. Sometimes there just is no explanation for someone's behaviour. She could have underlying disorders like a personality disorder or mental health issue, I don't know.

I'm so sorry for your loss and I completely understand you wanting to have a relationship with your mum. It's perfectly natural and of course you didn't want her to be lonely. You sound like a kind and loving person who has so much to give.

Unfortunately your mum is not capable of acting like a decent human being for whatever reason. You need to grieve the mother you never had and try to find peace with it. If you're struggling over the death of your grandchild then perhaps Cruse could help. They provide free bereavement counselling. I also suggest longer term counselling to help you process your relationship with your mother and move towards peace.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 20/07/2024 11:10

She saw you as her DD as a soft touch and used you accordingly. This is what happens when you at all get involved with such selfish and self seeking people. She is really not worth bothering about and she has not changed in all these years. You need to grieve for the relationship you should have had rather than the one you actually got. Reading Toxic Parents by Susan Forward could help you.

Devonshiregal · 08/08/2024 21:39

AttilaTheMeerkat · 20/07/2024 11:10

She saw you as her DD as a soft touch and used you accordingly. This is what happens when you at all get involved with such selfish and self seeking people. She is really not worth bothering about and she has not changed in all these years. You need to grieve for the relationship you should have had rather than the one you actually got. Reading Toxic Parents by Susan Forward could help you.

Could you maybe please tell me more about this book and your experience with it (if you feel comfortable sharing how the book impacted you)

Psychoticbreak · 08/08/2024 23:03

Potentially yes but label of narc or not she is a selfish selfish woman. I feel for you. As always I advise people to visit the 'we took you to stately homes' threads. It will open your mind.
I am sorry for the loss of your grandchild. Devastating for your family.

mytuppennyworth · 08/08/2024 23:07

A lot of women her generation would not acknowledge a still birth or neonatal death so I would not hold that against her. However throwing a 9 year old out to sleep on the street, I would have no contact with her at all after that.

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