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How many people stay for a lifestyle/security?

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mbair20 · 27/06/2024 13:04

I am separated from DH the past 6 weeks, but he still wants to make it work. Our dc9 is miserable at the family breakdown and i know this is affecting her even more than she lets on- my own parents' divorce fucked me up royally for most of my adult life to date. DH wants us to start counselling and set some new goals for our marriage. We did counselling for almost a year before and within another year the same issues were surfacing (different argument/communication styles, different approaches to parenting, different needs for attention/conversation, resentment about past arguments.) I don't really miss DH much; I think over the years he has become quite spoilt and entitled due to his well paid career, and he is physically and emotionally quite lazy and has moods/sulks which affect everyone. He now thinks he has Aspergers which would explain a lot and i tend to agree. I do miss our shared jokes, our affection, silly things like his smile, his cooking, and we enjoy the same things like holidays, walks, bookshops, cinema, eating out etc. He is an ok dad to DC, though as I said quite lazy, hardly ever takes her out without being asked and doesn't do stuff like homework/school stuff or organising playdates/emotional support/taking her out on her bike even when the weather's a bit rubbish... the 'boring' stuff he leaves all that stuff to me. But regardless DC misses him and they do love video gaming together, it's their thing and I hate it.

I basically left because I was extremely depressed and lonely. I felt like DH and I had nothing to talk about anymore and we were arguing badly at times. we hadnt had sex in almost a year, because i just dont fancy him due to weight he has gained and poor hygiene as well as the arguments but I could never tell him about the weight thing as it would upset him. I felt so stressed by not knowing what to do about us that it was affecting my job and I was put on a PiP (which has now been lifted as I passed my probation period, thank god.) I couldnt hack the idea of not feeling sexual attraction. My resentment was growing to the point that things like his nail-biting habit and the tone of his voice and the fact he didnt put his socks in the laundry basket, made me really angry. We had arguments around DC that made me feel so guilty. So, i left with DC and went to stay with family. So far DC and I have been ok- seeing family lots, spending more time together, talking more. Dh and I have talked a bit. He's incredibly hurt and occasionally angry. We have both cried a lot on the phone.

The main thing I am 'mourning', I think, is our life together though. Together, we live in a really nice part of the city in a flat with garden, we have a very good household income, and we never worry about money. I grew up in poverty pretty much, and having that financial security and being able to enjoy life has never ceased to make me feel good and safe. We are able to save a lot which is important to me. We holiday several times a year, DC has whatever she needs and really good christmases/birthdays, I have been able to pursue a hobby that i never could before. Separated, i am ok financially- I work, can afford rent and bills and healthy food, a weekly activity for DC and bits and bobs she wants/needs, but I dont have any extra childcare support to do my own stuff and I also dont think I would necessarily want to go on the same holidays or do the same days out without another adult, even if i could afford a pared down version of my old life. I dont see myself wanting to get into another relationship for a long time as the old one just made me so depressed and I think i need to find "me" again.

Today, though, I miss my old life and I am so panicked at the idea of it being over. It makes me want to run back to DH and do the counselling and just accept that you can't have it all- attraction and conversation and security - in a marriage. He wants more DC, I could go either way, and that would be the condition of going back: planning to have at least one more DC. I know that. We are both mid 30s and not getting younger. I feel OK about it, though I don't think he is the best dad. He is more like an older sibling to Dc at times.

That was a digression but my question is, I don't know if it is actually normal for people who are unhappy to stay together for that security and familiarity in this day and age. Has anyone here done the same? Do you regret it?

OP posts:
Kindnesspolicy · 27/06/2024 18:43

I personally chose not to comment on title of thread, but chose to engage with OP's issues themselves.

However, I feel it is fair to also say I know a few independent women like myself who are married because we wanted marriages to our DHs. I am independent and came to teh marriage with an over a million house which I still have and other assets. DH knows I can leave anytime ( had had no reason to want to leave my marriage).

What I will say is, I will certainly not be miserable for the sake of a marriage or risk my health. But then I know I can say that as I am independently wealthy and so is my own family (wealthy and uber supportive they can step in within seconds if I so needed).

Good luck op.

mbair20 · 27/06/2024 18:45

Someone said upthread about not accepting a smaller life and i guess it feels like a life alone is smaller, for me, I (and dc) won't get to have as many experiences, we won't have as much freedom. I absolutely love to travel and - if i do literaly all the organisation - me and DH have done that since the start of our relationship, we have had holidays i still think of with a smile, and even this year we had some nice weekends/short trips away that like i said i think financially and emotionally i won't be able to do as a single parent. DH is at his best on holiday because he doesn't cope very well with work and he gets very fatigued due to the intensity of his job, it is desk based but high pressure. He is more fun and relaxed on holiday but obviously most of the time we are living life at home and that is when i feel bored and frustrated and when we argue more as i often feel he doesn't talk to me or feel the need to invest in his relationship with me or dc. But maybe i am being unfair. Other posters seem to say not, and at times i think, that life was soul destroying. But other times lately i feel lonely, i feel scared of what the future looks like and i just keep reminiscing about nice times we have had, and thinking about how DC is so upset she has hidden toys that remind her of DH... and i think, what have i done? He keeps asking me to try again. He is waiting for me to decide. I guess if he had decided he was done it would be straightforward but i have so much guilt and conflict about this. But when i think, am i in love with DH, it feels like a no.. but I do love him. And how many people together for >10 years are 'in love'? It's all very confusing.

OP posts:
Kindnesspolicy · 27/06/2024 19:02

Can you not get a good divorce settlement for your travels? You keep saying he makes lots of money.

Holidays- I have always had a high pressured job (not any more). However, I had a mechanism of making one day a week feel like a holiday as like you, I enjoy travelling. I paid £400 a month to a members club (£2K joining fee) with all the added-on you can imagine: daily spas before and after work; healthy food , gym, board room, and I lived 4 mins away from it. The moment I walked in, I was transformed. However, I was single and cannot imagine anyone wanting to be married to me with that high pressured job hence after I made more money, I left it; in preparation for next stage of my life.

Fast forward to when Dh (we also travel massively) was unable to travel much because he needed to rescue his business (he picked it up and doubled it and I am proud of him). During that time, I still felt like I was on holiday daily, whilst at home: How you might ask? Well, I probably own 100 bikinis- some still never worn. So Everyday, I did a catwalk from our house into the garden to where the tub is. The area itself looks like a holiday place, for a wedding- all DH's hard work. I would also hold a plastic glass (no real glasses) with my fav tea in - don't like alcohol- pretending it was a cocktail and sun glasses incl in the middle of winter. I would wear some accessories from some of our fav holiday destination> Guess what? It gave me the holiday feeling every single day. After 12 months, DH started doing it lol -swimmers, sun glasses and a glass of his gin and tonic and he was surprised it also made him feel like he was on holiday. lol

Some things, you have to fake them till you make them. Oh, I would sometimes pull out my Dior bag to through in my belongings- if I missed my designer handbags lol. Well, just been in teh tub and feeling rested and relaxed. Dh will go in at 10pm. Some days we go in together- like 2 days ago. I prefer morning time he prefers evening.

KittensSchmittens · 27/06/2024 20:18

It would never occur to me to divorce someone for the things you mention in your OP. That's just married life isn't it? 100% I would stay for the 'lifestyle', although I would just consider that to be my life. MY life, the one I'd built up over years with DH. I would fight tooth and nail to keep it. Who cares if he's a bit fat and you bicker more now. The honeymoon stage was never going to last.

You parent your DC together until she leaves home and then you can pursue your separate interests after that, safe in the knowledge that you are going to be financially stable in your retirement/old age.

Literally what is the point of marriage otherwise? It's not some fairytale love story, it's a contract to share your resources for the rest of your life to reduce the chance that either or both of you end up destitute.

I would only consider divorce if I was being abused. It doesn't sound like that's the case here.

HebburnPokemon · 27/06/2024 20:25

I could never tell him about the weight thing as it would upset him

Did he never ask why you weren’t having sex?

HebburnPokemon · 27/06/2024 20:34

He is more like an older sibling to Dc at times.

Disney Dad?

Motherhood changes women but fatherhood rarely changes the man

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