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Just need to unpick how I’m feeling - end of a long term relationship

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Melassa · 24/06/2024 20:43

I’m not sure I’m even going to post this but need to write it all down as I’m feeling totally in turmoil and it’s not getting better, perhaps pouring it all out will help.

Long story short my partner of over 20 years a couple of months ago started being very affectionate, bringing me flowers, always wanting to kiss and hold my hand. As this was a surprise after the last few years of not really doing affection I asked him what was behind it. He confessed at that point that he had an infatuation for a woman at work 20 years his junior. At that stage it was an infatuation apparently and he wanted to work on our relationship, although he flitted between being super loving to shouting at me for absurd “sins” I’d committed over the years. It’s worth mentioning that I’d assumed a mid life crisis at this stage, he wasn’t sleeping and had lost a lot of weight despite eating.

However he then insisted with this woman, who apparently only wanted sex but he wanted “something more”. I phoned him once to ask when he was coming home and he confessed he was with her, “clarifying” the situation. He then came home at 1am apologising, that he “had to discuss it” she said no to the relationship he was asking for (wtf that he was still asking her!) and that he wanted to stay with me. I told him that he needed to stop with this woman or he would be leaving. I had a business trip coming up, so he had a week to think about it while I was away and make his decision. All week he sent me photos of drinks and dinners with friends, the the night I was travelling (the night before I returned) he spent the evening and had sex with this woman in our car.

i knew nothing at that stage and when I came back I asked if he’d made a decision and he nodded yes, without elaborating. He then spent every evening out, supposedly with friends, then he went away at the weekend as usual (he has a hobby which takes him away one night most weekends, it never was a problem and I used to enjoy the time on my own). I was suspicious anyway at this stage due to the numbers of evenings out, it’s not like him, and in the past when I’d been away he’s always wanted to spend time with me on my return.

it transpired he’d not only been with her every night in the week, when he told me he was with friends, but he took her away for the fucking weekend, including shelling out for a night in a hotel. He came back, apologised and wanted me to hold him. Naturally I told him to fuck off and move out.

He’s now living in a friend’s outhouse, but we’ve remained in contact and have started couples therapy and “dating” again. This woman is still hanging around like a bad smell as they work in the same office, but he’s realised he doesn’t want to throw away 20 years.

I’m doing the therapy because I need to unpick all the confusion I have in my head and understand my feelings on this. I still have the rage and feel humiliated and hurt he could do something like this to me, my head tells me to ditch the fucker but in the end I do love him. Had he not started up the super loving part at the beginning of all this I might have been less hurt, as we’d fallen into the humdrum of almost parallel lives, but this rekindling reminded me of the man I fell in love with. I do wonder if there is an element of co-dependence in both sides, we’re both used to having each other around, plus he hates being in his own and has been coming to me as his rock while he has this turmoil in his head. I always used to be the one to fix things and find the solutions, so I’m still being used for that.

In fact I do wonder if I’m being used full stop. The doubt will always remain, he pursued this woman but I was the insurance option, clearly. The trust had gone completely on my part, when he goes out with friends now he sends me photos as proof. I hate living like this, mistrusting and feeling the need to check up constantly, we were never like that. I don’t think we can ever recover the trust.

Since the mega betrayal, between the rage I still have inside, the hurt and humiliation, plus my confused feelings towards him, I’ve not been managing to eat much and I’ve not been sleeping well, which of course is only heightening my emotional state. It’s now affecting my work, I’m feeling overwhelmed by simple problems and am not being efficient. I’m quite senior in a decision making role so I do need a clear head.

i just need this to be “over” in some way. Some days I feel calm and composed, then the next I’m a wreck. We have our second couples therapy session later this week but I get the impression we won’t be reaching a conclusion any time soon.

wow, sorry that was long and boring, yet only semi-cathartic. This is going to be a long slog, isn’t it?

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Arlanymor · 24/06/2024 20:45

Gently, kindly, I honestly cannot understand why you want anything more to do with this person. He sounds absolutely awful.

mrswinter69 · 24/06/2024 20:50

You've said he admitted to having sex with her. Life's too short hun get rid of him x

Plantmother71 · 24/06/2024 20:51

Please leave him, for the sake of your own sanity. He’s using you. You deserve so much better.

Melassa · 24/06/2024 20:56

You are all so right. I would say the same to any friend who told me all that. I’m usually so decisive, hence I wondered re the co-dependence.

it doesn’t help that he keeps coming round, had he fucked off entirely I’d have been ok by now.

it helps to be told, the therapist is not really saying much.

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FunkyMonks · 24/06/2024 20:58

Sorry op I would get rid of him and let her have him for good personally I couldn't get over someone cheating on me once let alone a good couple of times.

You deserve better don't waste another 20 + years on him get someone who deserves you and wants you and only you.

Celynfour · 24/06/2024 21:09

I hope you can work out what you actually want and what is good for you and healthy .
He has been handed alot of power and he is being , at best , thoughtless . Don’t be an option because he ‘hates to be on his own ‘ .
A good therapist won’t say much but will let you find your own path .

Hatty65 · 24/06/2024 21:09

If it helps to clarify things, I can tell you that Ex DH and I separated for 6 months when the DC were very small and he behaved appallingly. We were supposed to be living separately and working on the marriage, but he shagged around, treated me with contempt, didn't step up to help with DC, etc, etc.

We then reconciled and limped on for a little while, but I realised that I'd lost all respect for him. I still loved him (or at least the 'him' I'd thought he was) but I realised that it was impossible to continue in a relationship with someone who had behaved like he had. I was just full of contempt for any man who could behave so badly towards someone he was supposed to love and I realised that without respect there was nothing left.

I would recommend a clean break. I think you are flogging a dead horse.

Franwith2and1 · 24/06/2024 21:10

I’ve had something not too different. Went on for a year! Every time he was with me all he was doing was texting and calling her. He went back and forth between us. Was a total headfuck. In the end I pulled the plug and eventually he married her. Honestly when he was with me he swore he didn’t want her blah blah. I think he/they were just using that time to sort themselves out and whether they were going to make a go of it with me in the middle. I think you do represent his rock/safety etc, but she probably is exciting new and fun. He just isn’t ready to take the plunge. Do the right thing and keep him gone please for your own sanity. Hold you head up high and move on to better things

Arlanymor · 24/06/2024 21:10

This sentence: “Naturally I told him to fuck off and move out.” is the best part of your post. You maybe now need to cement it by cutting all contact. He can only keep coming around if you let him. I think you need to cut the cord once and for all. I’m not saying it will be easy and he will obviously resist because he’s been sailing close to the wind for so long and thinking that you will always be there to be his back stop even if he oversteps the mark.

I think you need to put up your boundaries now. You deserve so, so much better. And you can only have better if you do a clean sweep first…

Blendeddogs · 24/06/2024 21:12

Arlanymor · 24/06/2024 20:45

Gently, kindly, I honestly cannot understand why you want anything more to do with this person. He sounds absolutely awful.

This

Lostworlds · 24/06/2024 21:16

I’m so sorry @Melassa you’ve put up with far more than any person would.
You’ve stood by and let him make the choices for your life but I think you now need to put yourself first. No matter how much couples therapy you go through, you won’t be able to forgive, forget and move on. He’s not conflicted about what he wants, he wants her and he’s made that very clear. He’s making you second best which is disgusting!

You don’t deserve a life of being insecure and confused about what’s going on. You need to put distance between the two of you so you can try move on. I know it’s easier said than done. I know this is your real life and it’s hard to switch off feelings and to separate but I think you need some time away from him to decide what you want in life!

Snowfalling · 24/06/2024 21:20

FunkyMonks · 24/06/2024 20:58

Sorry op I would get rid of him and let her have him for good personally I couldn't get over someone cheating on me once let alone a good couple of times.

You deserve better don't waste another 20 + years on him get someone who deserves you and wants you and only you.

Tell him not to come round any more. And get a different therapist, and individual counselling. He's not only a cheat but is also verbally abusive with all the shouting.

fellflatonmeface · 24/06/2024 21:24

How can you ever trust him again?

Melassa · 24/06/2024 21:27

Yes, I suspect that even if we did get back together I would ditch him soon after. All respect is gone. I’m just being his therapist now, stupidly I’m feeling a natural inclination to help him because of his “mid life crisis”. He now reckons he’s had a breakdown. All I know is he is ruining my health.

i think our couples therapy session this week will be useful, I will use it to clear my mind and reaffirm my original boundaries.

sadly our DC is travelling now and knows nothing, we will need to find a way of breaking the news when back, which will somehow draw it out more, no doubt.

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Wynethrose · 24/06/2024 21:27

You'll struggle to trust him ever again , I know I've been through it , you think you can but it's very difficult to carry on in a relationship when you're constantly thinking about where they are , why are they late , constantly on their phone etc, it eats away at you until the only way out is to let them go.

Melassa · 24/06/2024 21:28

fellflatonmeface · 24/06/2024 21:24

How can you ever trust him again?

I don’t, and I don’t want to care anymore, which is the hard part.

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