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**Cheating after exclusive - what do I do now?**

32 replies

ShrimpMumma · 22/06/2024 01:14

Ladies, I'm in desperate need of some advice please?

I've been with my partner for just over 18 months. We're extremely happy and have plans for our future.

I have been cheated on by every long term partner I've had and my last boyfriend was particularly gross in his behaviour towards me. For this reason I know I find it really difficult to trust. My partner was also cheated on in a big way and has trust issues because of it so from the start of our relationship we've been open and honest about everything - warts and all!

Last week, he was talking about an old female friend and it stirred something up inside me. I don't know why but it just bothered me. Just to add I'm not a jealous person. He has other female friends and I don't mind at all but this just didn't sit right with me. It was like a gut instinct. Curiosity got the better of me and I went through his phone. I know I shouldn't have done it but I did. There was nothing untoward on there other than this conversation between him and this friend. I already knew that they were FWB for a while but he gave me the impression it was nothing more than that and just fizzled out.

I found a message to her said that he's waited for her for so long but never seems to know where he stands. He suggested they meet up and talk about this because if she wants him he needs to hear it from her. This message was sent 2 days after he asked me to be his girlfriend, 6 or 7 weeks after we had started seeing each other. It was also the same night he had introduced me to his brothers at a party and it was sent at 0400 while I was asleep next to him!!

The next message from her was a couple of days later and it was a single message from her saying 'don't ring the bell as (daughter's name) is asleep' so I'm guessing from that he went to see her. This was sent a few days after that other message. That night I was at a family party and was staying in a hotel with my mum. He stopped replying to my messages at 23:45 and I assumed he'd fallen asleep. No prizes for guessing what time she messaged him! I didn't hear from him until 10:30 the next morning.

The third and final message was a month later, he said 'sorry I missed your call, I was on the phone' so obviously they were still talking at this point. There's nothing since.

I honestly don't know what to do about this. We were both pretty messed up when we met, I was so insecure and he had a bit of a drug problem. He's since stopped all drug use, seen a GP and started medication, had counselling and is honestly a different person. He's kind, attentive, loving and he makes me feel safe. He's completely open with his phone and never shows any signs of suspicious behaviour etc. We have really good communication and up until this point I thought we were solid.

I feel like he was the closest I'd come to really trusting someone and this has absolutely broken me. Part of me feels like it was early on and he was in a bad place at the time but I just can't shake this feeling that he only stayed with me because she didn't want him (I'm assuming). Also, when you're fresh in an exclusive relationship, surely that's the time when you're besotted with one another and wouldn't even have the headspace for anyone else even if you were the sort of person to cheat, right?? Now I feel like I'm just second best. I also feel like those early days are completely ruined in my mind and when he mentions something from that time in our relationship all I can think about is the two of them.

I also had absolutely no idea about any of this so he's clearly quite good at covering his tracks.

I honestly don't know what to do. Any advice would be really appreciated xx

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Greenleavesinthesun · 22/06/2024 01:22

The main problem is could you ever trust him. He knows how to cover his tracks too, so how could you trust him?

I think this relationship is going to be a waste of your time, his not really “all in”
is he.

The fear for me would be him saying that it was all a mistake and that he is all in, me wanting to believe it, but it turns out to be yet more lies. You just can’t trust him can you, and that’s a massive problem, one he has created.

Incakewetrust · 22/06/2024 01:39

Honestly, I'd walk away. You'll never be able to truly trust him and without trust, a relationship cannot work.

NicholJO · 22/06/2024 02:29

Honestly babe he's not trust worthy you can do so much better babe good luck and make the right decision for you

Guavafish1 · 22/06/2024 02:39

I would cut your losses.

I agree with the others, you'll have difficulty trusting him again. He will probably not tell you the truth.

Save yourself a lot of heart and headache in the long run.

changedwwyd · 22/06/2024 02:56

I agree with the other MNs here.

Not only the cheating but even if you decided to forgive that - the biggest red flag is it seems from the messages he holds a candle for her. What is the risk she decides she wants him at some point? Will he go to her? There is no trust there.

Throw this one back in the sea. You deserve better!

Lampzade · 22/06/2024 03:04

I would get rid tbh Op
It appears that you are the ‘consolation prize’
His ‘friend’ doesn’t want him so he stayed with you

Mouseville65 · 22/06/2024 05:48

I'm a 'cheat and your gone' person BUT in this case I'd give him to opportunity to tell the truth - look him dead in the eye and ask him if he met her or cheated with her after asking you to be his girlfriend, if he lies, walk away as you'll never trust him, if he tells the truth maybe you can move past it.

From what You'v said he clearly is trying to be a better man, can he be an honest one? X

Justleaveitblankthen · 22/06/2024 06:00

Oh no😔
Throw him back OP.
Sorry, but no way could I be OK with this..

Don't make any more excuses for him.

You will never trust Flowers

MzHz · 22/06/2024 07:26

@ShrimpMumma you do know what to do, you just want someone else to tell you to do it.

its one thing finding it hard to trust people because of your own experiences, but another thing entirely when someone you’re involved with HAS cheated on you, even if you weren’t aware of it until you looked.

any chance you ever had of trusting this person has gone. How you get out of it is tricky, without revealing that you looked at his phone, but you have to end it sooner rather than later.

im sorry, this is a crap situation, but you DO deserve someone who is committed and trustworthy

GreyCarpet · 22/06/2024 07:37

I would end it.

You've only been together for 18 months as it.

But, as someone else said, you now know how good he is at lying and covering his tracks.

You'd supposedly been open and honest (warts and all) about your relationship histories, and yet he felt confident and at ease and guilt free enough to message her whilst you were asleep in bed next to him and to go round there for sex. You'd agreed to he exclusive.

I understand that it is difficult to trust. That is based on the fear that someone might cheat on your or betray you. Do you think he is someone you should trust when you know he's already cheated on you?

ControlShiftDelete · 22/06/2024 07:38

No op this guy sounds bad news unfortunately. Please don't waste anymore time. It's better to live a life carefree than being paranoid. The drug issues is another thing.

Channellingsophistication · 22/06/2024 07:44

Better to move on, though its hard I know, but he’s interested in someone else.

Porageeater · 22/06/2024 08:13

I’m so sorry OP, this is shit, my heart breaks for you given your previous experience too. If you decide to confront him with it and he does gaslighting, denial, lying, minimising or trying to make you feel bad about it or about looking at the phone, you will know that he doesn’t have your best interests at heart and you will absolutely need to get him gone. But I do agree with the others that this is such early days in a relationship really you would be better to cut your losses. You don’t want to waste your precious time and be sitting there in five years time wondering why you didn’t cut your losses at this point when you knew he wasn’t trustworthy.

Nicebloomers · 22/06/2024 08:20

I think you’ll always be wondering what he’s up to and want to check his phone. You’ll fall into an unhealthy frame of mind and make yourself very unhappy. It’s not worth continuing in the relationship imo. It’s a shame but better find out now than in another 18 months. Good luck.

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 22/06/2024 08:23

Pandora box has been opened.
You could never live with and trust him fully.

NewDogOwner · 22/06/2024 08:25

Forget the cheating; this is a red herring. He has a drug problem and is in very early recovery? There is no way he should be in a relationship. End it.

Waterboatlass · 22/06/2024 09:07

I'm sorry to say but this man is just a different flavour of untrustworthiness. Less shit than the awful ex maybe but definitely not what you deserve. He had 6-7 weeks to ask her whether she was still interested before making things exclusive with you but chose to overlap, then to actually go round there. I would be quite interested to ask him outright whether anything has happened with his ex but it was going on a while and quite involved and very well hidden when his attention should have been excitedly with you, not deciding whether he still wanted an ex. Overall, I would move on.

Waterboatlass · 22/06/2024 09:08

Also yes, absolutely the drug problem. This is very recent. I'm not sure I would want this on watch especially combined with sketchy behaviour re ex. Just seems a bit of a mess.

ShrimpMumma · 22/06/2024 09:18

Mouseville65 · 22/06/2024 05:48

I'm a 'cheat and your gone' person BUT in this case I'd give him to opportunity to tell the truth - look him dead in the eye and ask him if he met her or cheated with her after asking you to be his girlfriend, if he lies, walk away as you'll never trust him, if he tells the truth maybe you can move past it.

From what You'v said he clearly is trying to be a better man, can he be an honest one? X

Other than this, yes! He took full responsibility for his past and his problems, sought help and tries every day to be a better person. I've never seen any other suspicious or unusual behaviour and he's told me things about his past that he didn't need to tell me because they're before we met so therefore none of my business but he wanted me to know the real him.

A few weeks ago a woman from his past messaged him. He had a casual conversation about how she was doing etc. and when she suggested a meet he explained that he was in a loving relationship and doesn't want to meet. She persisted so he blocked her and showed me the messages.

He's the first person I've been with who actually considers my needs, physically and emotionally.
I feel like I'm just making excuses but can I really judge him based on how he was before he got help and started changing his life??

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ShrimpMumma · 22/06/2024 09:19

Greenleavesinthesun · 22/06/2024 01:22

The main problem is could you ever trust him. He knows how to cover his tracks too, so how could you trust him?

I think this relationship is going to be a waste of your time, his not really “all in”
is he.

The fear for me would be him saying that it was all a mistake and that he is all in, me wanting to believe it, but it turns out to be yet more lies. You just can’t trust him can you, and that’s a massive problem, one he has created.

That's what I fear too :(

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ShrimpMumma · 22/06/2024 09:21

changedwwyd · 22/06/2024 02:56

I agree with the other MNs here.

Not only the cheating but even if you decided to forgive that - the biggest red flag is it seems from the messages he holds a candle for her. What is the risk she decides she wants him at some point? Will he go to her? There is no trust there.

Throw this one back in the sea. You deserve better!

This is what hurts. It makes me worry that if she came back and wanted to be with him, would he just up and leave because he still has feelings for her?? :(

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estellacruella · 22/06/2024 09:38

Get rid of him it will eat u up inside and you will never fully trust him again. The relationship will suffer you will be unhappy and will end up in a rut. I have been in a similar situation but i fell pregnant early on and stayed for the babys sake 14 years later i left him but it was an unhappy relationship due to his betrayl at the start that i could never trust him.
Hope you find the strength to do what is right for you x

Moneysitu · 22/06/2024 09:43

Maybe say you felt off and looked at his phone and you want an explanation?

My first H did this. We had been together for 6 months. We went to a NYE party and his Ex was there. She was all over him. Later that night he left me at his house, and went to see her for a few hours so they could talk. Can't believe I stood for it now, but in my defence I was only 17 and clearly had no experience with men. Anyway, he "chose" me, and we stayed together for 20 years and had 2 kids. I did leave him though in the end ......for cheating with many other women!!

Your guy sounds lovely though, and I think I could get past this, but I would defo tell him you've seen the messages and thrash it out.

retinolalcohol · 22/06/2024 12:14

I have met many men who seem to have an orbit of women 'from their past' like this and they are always, without exception, bad news. I have dated one and would never do it again.

There are very few legit reasons to keep someone who you used to sleep with around. It's usually that one or both of them enjoy the frisson, or would like to be together in an ideal world - neither of which are appropriate when in a new relationship.

OP you deserve better than playing second fiddle. In the most exciting, exploratory days of your relationship he wanted someone else - 2 days after you defined your relationship, he would've kicked you to the curb had she wanted him. The foundations are rocky at best, and you'll always wonder whether she'll come back and you'll be dumped.

Move on and find someone who only wants you!

Opentooffers · 22/06/2024 13:01

She has an emotional hold on him, she says come over and he does - while her DC is asleep, classy. I think he's the type to hanker after something he cannot have all the more. She's keeping him at bay and just enjoying what she wants and when. She might have good reason, him being into drugs and her being a parent for one.
If he gets hooked to chasing and gets a buzz out of it, unfortunately, because he has you already, he doesn't get that buzz from a steady relationship. Addicive personalities chase the buzz. Thing is, although he doesn't get it from drugs anymore, he can still be looking for highs in other places as a substitute.
Don't bother with it all, it's a mess that you are getting dragged into. IME, people who express that they are open and want to share everything are actually the ones sharing what they are only willing to, to look good. The rest of us normal folk don't make a big deal out of being open and honest because proof is unnecessary and unreliable, anyone can sensor what they share. Morals and honesty should be an expectation, once you find these are lacking, there should be no going back. The only reason one might work on it is if DC's and family and financial ties exist, even then people wish they could easily escape. You have the freedom to extricate, painful though it is, love is not a reason to stay in a shit relationship, and yours has just turned to shit thanks to him.