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Should I stay or should I go?

24 replies

Strawberryvodka · 21/06/2024 23:47

I will try to keep this short, but I might not succeed.

I Have been married for 32 years. We have two children aged 30 and 26. Both “launched”, living independently but not to far from here so we see them regularly.

My husband is very self contained. In the beginning, I found this attractive; then came the busy years when the children were little and we were building careers, climbing the property ladder, and then the calmer times when children were older. We were a good, efficient partnership, financially very secure and he was a good and present dad.

Now we are both retired. About 12 to 15 years ago, things began to get difficult; the self contained thing I mentioned had grown to become not really wanting to spend time or do anything with me at all. He has sort of checked out of parenting, I guess this is not unreasonable because the kids are adults. But I have not checked out. About 10 years ago, he told me that “things weren’t great” between us, and that he disliked my political views and did not want the kind of retirement other people had, where they did things together and planned holidays/days out etc. He wanted to do his own thing, travel (alone) and spend time doing his hobby, cycling. I was upset, and thought about separating at this point, but then thought about the financial implications, and the upset it would cause the children, who were GCSE/ Alevel age and I felt they needed a base. And I didn’t want another man, so why would I commit financial suicide, I remember thinking.

we sleep apart, at his instigation. A couple of years ago I asked if he would come into my bed for cups of tea etc in the morning, even if he didn’t want to sleep all night there, but he didn’t. We have not had sex for over a decade. No kisses, touching, cuddling, just nothing. If I touch him, he flinched. We had couples counselling, but nothing changed.

there are no rows or arguing, we are efficient, amicable housemates.

he goes on holiday by himself. I am alone here with the cat for anything between a week and six weeks.

when I retired, I knew I had to build a life for myself, so I joined lots of groups etc, and now the inevitable has happened. I have met a man. I have known him a couple,of years, but in the last six months we have become close. He wants to have a relationship with me, and we have started an affair, I feel terrible just writing that. I thought I would die without ever being kissed again, let alone being physical with a man again. It is like being born again. I Cannot tell you how happy it makes me to be with him.

he has said he wants us to be together for what time we have left, I am late 50s he’s early 60s. I desperately want this too. The sex is like nothing I’ve ever known before. We share a lot of interests, are on the same page politically and just about life in general, we chat and he is affectionate and funny and interested. I am feeling weepy just writing this.

but the idea of dismantling the last 30 plus years is so awful. Will the kids hate me? I thought I could manage living this separate life, I have lots of friends etc and everything is so easy and secure … except there is no love, no chatting, no affection and no physical closeness.Wtf shall I do?

if you’ve read this far, I salute you!

OP posts:
olderbutwiser · 21/06/2024 23:52

Grab happiness while it’s offering itself to you on a plate.

It might be kinder and wiser to not bring your new man into the split, and to set yourself up alone to start with to make sure this isn’t a rebound relationship.

but I imagine your children will be completely unsurprised - they must know how miserable and checked out you and DH are.

Tealangel · 21/06/2024 23:56

You only have one life. Life is short. Grasp this opportunity with both hands. It sounds like you tried to make this work with your DH - asking for connection, marriage counselling etc - but he wasn't interested. He may be happy to live without emotional and physical connection, but why should you?

I think your kids will be fine, they are old enough to understand.

RJnomore1 · 22/06/2024 00:04

I would leave. Relationships change over years but it sounds like you’re nothing except a convenience to your husband when it suits him.

I couldn’t live like that.

Figomamma · 22/06/2024 00:12

Your story resonated a lot with me, although your husband is more direct than mine was, I sometimes wondered if I was imagining things.

I read a book called "Too bad to stay, too good to leave" or something like that. It helped a lot.

I left. It's tough, it's a brave thing to do, going through that upheaval, especially when you're older (I am 51). But I was so unbearably lonely that I would have lived in a grotty bedsit if it meant I had a chance to feel loved.

I did feel loved with someone new I met. It eventually ended but felt amazing while it lasted. I'm now with someone new but I don't feel loved so will probably venture out alone again soon.

But at least I have hope. And you have hope too if you leave. Hope is amazing- hope is what keeps the lights on when everyone else has gone home. ❤️

Runsyd · 22/06/2024 00:12

I'm so pleased you've met someone who actually deserves you. Your husband is a selfish pig. He should have ended the marriage if he felt the way he did, not subject you to years of mistreatment. Explain as much of this to your kids as you feel able, and let them have their feelings. They'll come around, even if they're not immediately supportive. Above all, put your happiness first and leave.

Imambaldi · 22/06/2024 00:13

I would leave. It sounds like you’ve given it your “all” and he’s not interested.
Worse … he flinches when you touch him !

He won’t even go on holiday with you. The marriage is long over. Just divorce him and make it official and enjoy your life from now on

Noseybookworm · 22/06/2024 00:18

Your husband checked out of your relationship many years ago. Grab at this happiness with both hands OP you deserve it! It doesn't sound like your husband will be bothered if you split. Your adult children have their own lives and will probably be shocked at first but they'll come round. Go for it and don't stay in this loveless marriage any longer.

CryptoFascist · 22/06/2024 00:20

He's made his feelings clear, and should have expected this to happen eventually.
I felt quite tearful reading your post. Your affection for your new man shines through.
I would leave, rather have a chance at being happy and loved than live with regrets and what ifs.

PrimaDoner · 22/06/2024 00:21

Congrats OP, enjoy your new love

Rooting for you

stonedaisy · 22/06/2024 00:29

How can you not go for this! Your husband has checked out, why would you let this chance of happiness go?
Only thing i would say is take it slow, make sure new guy is 100% genuine and protect your assets as best you can asap in case this gets out before you're ready
Lucky you!

SweetGingerTea · 22/06/2024 00:34

Walk away from your marriage; your DH has and likely been in a relationship since (sorry). Downsize, buy a flat, free up cash and enjoy your life alone or with someone you cares about you

WalkingaroundJardine · 22/06/2024 00:35

Your kids must have noticed that you don’t have a good or close marriage with the separate bedrooms etc.?

Even if your current relationship doesn’t work out it would be better to be truly free for any new relationship, rather than conducting an affair, which may incite an unexpectedly negative reaction from your DH, even if he has long checked out and is largely responsible for the state of the marriage. The sooner and more amicably you can separate the better for the adult kids.

SGsling · 22/06/2024 00:42

to be honest, what do you think happens when your husband is on holiday?

what would happen if you said you were going on holiday (To the OM’s house, for a couple of months)?

I would not look to make it particularly easy for your husband? Whatever the flavour he will be eating cake.

sunflowrsngunpowdr · 22/06/2024 00:49

Leave your husband. Not for the other man but because your marriage is already dead. Do the honourable thing and end it before you take this new relationship any further.

BitOutOfPractice · 22/06/2024 00:54

There isn’t a life to dismantle is there? I mean not really a joint one, apart from finances.

I would leave. I can’t believe your husband won’t be happy.

Alwaysgothiccups · 22/06/2024 02:06

You are just housemates.
You haven't had sex for over ten years and you don't do anything together, you have mostly separate lives..
Why are you staying married? What's the point?
Get divorced. Move out and enjoy the rest of your life.
Even if it wasn't for your affair I'd be saying to leave. It sounds like a miserable slow death staying.

Gatecrashermum · 22/06/2024 02:48

Your marriage is long dead. You did your best.

Leave him, good luck with the new man. Even if it doesn't work out, you'll be better off than you are now!

Teacherprebaby · 22/06/2024 07:42

DO IT! You deserve to be happy. I am your daughter's age and if you were my Mum I'd be so happy for you x

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 22/06/2024 07:44

Go for it! How lovely, you're so lucky, take this chance at some happiness now, grab it with both hands!
As to your worries about your children's reactions, I would hope my adult child would prefer to see me happy and fulfilled with someone who is not their father than leading a half-life with a father who checked out of the marriage long ago. You may have to do a bit of explaining to them but they might already be aware that things have not been hunky-dory for a long time.
Good luck!

Channellingsophistication · 22/06/2024 07:52

I think you need to talk to your husband about separating…. But you are best to set up alone so you can take your time and see if this new relationship works in the longer term. You deserve to be happy.

Strawberryvodka · 22/06/2024 09:09

Thank you so much to all of you for replying. As the”youth” say, I feel heard. I’m so grateful. I know I need to leave my marriage. And I’m not planning to move in with anyone else, ever, I will always have my own place, even if it’s a flat over a kebab shop. It’s just that meeting this new man has shone a bit of a light. Not quite as crude as I didn’t know what I was missing, but I had rationalised to myself that I would be able to get to the end of my life without affection etc at home, as long as I had friends/kids/books etc …. And now I’m realising how sad that sounds x

OP posts:
Plantheads5 · 22/06/2024 09:23

Grab it with both hands.
How wonderful, a chance of happiness.
You do not have to tell ANYONE about him.
Instigate a divorce asap.
Do not hesitate to tell your children the truth of the last 10 years.
Your husband is a selfish pig.
Do NOT apologise to ANYONE for wanting a divorce.
You tolerated that selfish pig for 10 long years for your children.
YOU are done.

Do indeed get a lovely small place for yourself and be very prudent with your finances.

But 100% I Instigate a divorce. Hopefully mediation will make it a clean split.
Get every pen you deserve.
Do not give him extra percentages because you are initiating the divorce.
Could your husband be gay, or have met someone himself?

Either way, move on this without guilt nor delay.

Arnia · 22/06/2024 09:35

I'm glad you have plans to set yourself up in your own flat OP, I do think you should leave your husband 100% but I don't think you should do it to move in with this man. After all the years of enduring your husbands cold selfish behaviour don't let yourself be the fall guy when the marriage ends. If you tell him about the new man he may blame you for the marriage ending and make you look like the bad one to your children. And also it will be enough of a shock to your DC that you've left, give them time to process that before you introduce the idea of someone else. I'd also worry that you'd move too fast with this man and not think through the financial decisions properly and end up shooting yourself in the foot should the new relationship wobble at any stage.

So keep him to yourself for now and focus on setting yourself up as comfortably as you can. But please definitely do leave! I wish you all the happiness 💐

PrimaDoner · 22/06/2024 09:42

Arnia · 22/06/2024 09:35

I'm glad you have plans to set yourself up in your own flat OP, I do think you should leave your husband 100% but I don't think you should do it to move in with this man. After all the years of enduring your husbands cold selfish behaviour don't let yourself be the fall guy when the marriage ends. If you tell him about the new man he may blame you for the marriage ending and make you look like the bad one to your children. And also it will be enough of a shock to your DC that you've left, give them time to process that before you introduce the idea of someone else. I'd also worry that you'd move too fast with this man and not think through the financial decisions properly and end up shooting yourself in the foot should the new relationship wobble at any stage.

So keep him to yourself for now and focus on setting yourself up as comfortably as you can. But please definitely do leave! I wish you all the happiness 💐

Agree with this!

Start moving towards the life you want OP, but tread carefully and in a way that doesn’t harm you or those around you.

As the above poster says, you've endured this for so long, don’t dash through all those efforts at maintaining stability and security in yours and your family’s lives by acting rashly now. Leave DH, get your own place, allow this new relationship to blossom alongside your new life. Don’t heap all this pressure and potential negativity on it by making it the focus of the split.

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