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Things my ex did and I still stayed

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datcherygrateful · 20/06/2024 12:03

Thought we can share what our exes have done and yet we still stayed but looking back could not believe we did not leave sooner.

For me- I am ashamed but have learnt a biiiig lesson. TRUST YOUR GUT

Anyway, there's loads but I'll start with

First Date, complimented me and said I was his type and that it was difficult dating online and that and I quote him saying "I don't like black women or fat women" - YEP. ON THE FIRST DATE and I stayed??!

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wannabebetter · 23/06/2024 17:13

First time I took him to meet my parents he got drunk on the train & fell asleep then punched me giving me a bloody nose when I woke him up because it was our stop (my fault - he was sleeping!!). Drunk most nights, regularly pissed the bed, once actually shat the bed. Pulled me out of bed by the hair leaving me with a bald patch that I was too embarrassed about to visit hairdresser for months. Threw me down the stairs, throttled me in the pub one night til I lost consciousness, bruises from his fingers were mistaken for love bites by work colleagues. Finally saw the light when he ended up in hospital with blood poisoning & I realised how peaceful life was without him. Packed one bag & passed him at the front door when he got out. Just walked away from everything, house, possessions & it was completely liberating!!!

Milliemoo1908 · 23/06/2024 18:11

He Stormed out of the hospital after birth of second child because the discharge was taking too long. He Stressed over my brain tumour because he couldn’t cope with the recovery period the doctors warned me about, I bounced back really quickly but partly because I couldn’t cope with his wallowing. When my mum was dying (was in a hospice with a few days until she passed) told me he couldn’t take time off to look after our children. When my dad was dying after a massive bleed on brain he again couldn’t take time off work to look after our children. Called me a parasite during tne two years I stayed at home to look after our children because childcare was too expensive and he was paying for everything, in reality I used my savings and child benefit to pay for kiddie stuff and I hardly ate dinner so Shopping bills were lower. There is more. I am now living in a two bed flat with two teens (I sleep on sofa) and I’m skint but I wouldn’t go back for anything 😊

rstare786 · 23/06/2024 18:44

Also said he didn't feel the need to FaceTime or phone me even though we lived about 70 miles away. I should just know that he missed me and wanted to be with me. Writing this down is making me realise exactly how ridiculous it was.

ItsFreedomBabyYeah · 23/06/2024 19:09

AcrossthePond55 · 22/06/2024 23:53

Oh honey, I'm so sad for you. I do understand staying for financial stability. But please listen. Right now I assume your children keep you happy and he works so you get a break from him on a day to day basis. But someday the children will be gone and he will retire and you'll have to put up with him 24/7/365. Please find a way, make some kind of a plan, to be financially self supporting by then. Your life will be hell on earth if you don't.

We have a friend who was married to a man who was just intolerable. He wasn't physically abusive, but he was so self centred that he believed the world literally revolved around him, his job, and his hobbies. He could talk of nothing but himself and if you tried to introduce a new subject he swiftly brought it back to 'him'. She tolerated him because he worked long hours, and like you, for the children and the financial security. But when he announced to her that he was planning to retire in 6 months and she'd never get a break from him, she quietly made her plans. About 2 months before his final day she packed up her belongings, emptied half the bank accounts and did a 'midday flit'. Her financial situation isn't 1/4 of their 'standard of living' but she's as happy as Larry and has met a nice fellow.

Just be aware that there is a better life out there if the time comes.

Thankyou.

I also work fulltime & I'm a decent earner with minimal expenses, so for years I have been lucky enough to save a good chunk of money over time for this exact moment.

I make the best out of my situation

CharlieDickens · 23/06/2024 19:38

Garlicker · 22/06/2024 23:45

It's incredible how many people - friends, family, co-workers, internet sprites - will encourage you (especially if you're female) "not to think the worst". To magic up implausible explanations and excuses. To accept they just don't know better. To feel sorry for the poor love, he's stressed - as seen in every single report of a family murder/suicide. To take on the burden of our fear and pain plus his discomfort, his reputation and our shame.

When some homicidal lunatic chops up his wife and children then hangs himself, over half the media coverage focuses on what a lovely man he was, but stressed. It's as though lovely men, when anxious, might naturally be expected to kill their families. And whose job is it to keep them calm? Their wives, of course. We're supposed to treat men as gods and, simultaneously, toddlers who don't know how to manage their emotions. The subtext is that our lives, and our children's, depend on it.

This existential threat runs underneath every confrontation between women and men; nearer the surface in some cases than in others. I was raised by a tempestuously violent man and a woman who tenderly "understood" him. I learned a great deal about what not to do when Daddy was tired or worried, because if I did the wrong things he would hit me. I learned very little about whether anyone should hit me at all. I learned not to have problems, not to tell anyone about family life, and never to let anyone see Mum's bruises or hear her crying. I was a fully-trained, staggeringly tolerant victim.

Women like me are, confusingly, called "strong". Strong in terms of endurance, yes, but it's far stronger to know we're worth better than that and get the fuck out of there.

In a nutshell.

Heartbreaktuna · 23/06/2024 19:44

It's terrifying that these men move and exist in the world. And still they seek out relationships.

BirthdayRainbow · 23/06/2024 20:00

He hit me twice. Once so hard my jaw was completely out of alignment. I left him when he kicked my cat. Then took him back as lonely and didn't want to wonder as I was already pining for a lovely previous ex. Ended it but not quick enough though it was okay that time. Just hated the fucker.

Lovely previous ex? We are good friends now.

Dweetfidilove · 23/06/2024 20:08

Some of these are downright scary, then I get to @Sharontheodopolodous - 😢😭

Every time I think MN cannot surprise me, I read something even more horrific.

💐💐

beatrix1234 · 23/06/2024 20:13

Desertislandparadise · 22/06/2024 22:29

Reading all these situations, I'm left wondering why you stayed after the first horrific date or red flags in the first few months? And if you were giving advice to a daughter, what would you tell her? Is there anything someone could have said to you back then that would have changed your mind?

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My abusive relationship only lasted 3 months, but the massive red flags where there from day one, I just refused to see them. I stayed because he was younger than me, super good looking and I had always had a secret crush on him so when he started paying attention to me I couldn't believe that such a younger good looking man would fancy me. I had just came out of the pandemic, I was very isolated (being an immigrant doesn't help either) and in a vulnerable place. He was also good in bed. His ex had a restraining order on him. We've been in touch for the last couple of years and he seems to go from one very toxic relationship to another. It's never "his fault". In the meanwhile I've remained single and try to do some introspection so I don't fall for this shyte again.

Dweetfidilove · 23/06/2024 20:45

Garlicker · 22/06/2024 23:45

It's incredible how many people - friends, family, co-workers, internet sprites - will encourage you (especially if you're female) "not to think the worst". To magic up implausible explanations and excuses. To accept they just don't know better. To feel sorry for the poor love, he's stressed - as seen in every single report of a family murder/suicide. To take on the burden of our fear and pain plus his discomfort, his reputation and our shame.

When some homicidal lunatic chops up his wife and children then hangs himself, over half the media coverage focuses on what a lovely man he was, but stressed. It's as though lovely men, when anxious, might naturally be expected to kill their families. And whose job is it to keep them calm? Their wives, of course. We're supposed to treat men as gods and, simultaneously, toddlers who don't know how to manage their emotions. The subtext is that our lives, and our children's, depend on it.

This existential threat runs underneath every confrontation between women and men; nearer the surface in some cases than in others. I was raised by a tempestuously violent man and a woman who tenderly "understood" him. I learned a great deal about what not to do when Daddy was tired or worried, because if I did the wrong things he would hit me. I learned very little about whether anyone should hit me at all. I learned not to have problems, not to tell anyone about family life, and never to let anyone see Mum's bruises or hear her crying. I was a fully-trained, staggeringly tolerant victim.

Women like me are, confusingly, called "strong". Strong in terms of endurance, yes, but it's far stronger to know we're worth better than that and get the fuck out of there.

Yes. There was an idiot this morning on another thread telling the OP the red flags signify his adoration of her 🤦🏾‍♀️. Poor woman was already confused about what she was experiencing.

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 24/06/2024 08:00

Desertislandparadise · 22/06/2024 22:29

Reading all these situations, I'm left wondering why you stayed after the first horrific date or red flags in the first few months? And if you were giving advice to a daughter, what would you tell her? Is there anything someone could have said to you back then that would have changed your mind?

Edited

Looking back I'm not sure why I did but he had taken all the confidence out of me, he would promise he'd change and I believed him. There was a bit of fear that I'd failed at something. He'd alienated me from my friends the only friends we had were our friends and he charmed them.

He became more spiteful with his words as the years went on, I was blamed for him not tidying up (instead he was sat playing his Xbox or having a wank) because I came home early from work on occasions. I used to flinch whenever he came near me.

I was trauma bonded I guess. I was scared of starting again and scared no other man would want me, after all I was a shit wife, a shit human, fat and ugly and deserved what he did to me because I didn't do as I was told.

Turns out I wasn't any of that and the two men I met since have both been twice the man he was.

BeenThereDoneThat82 · 24/06/2024 18:40

Saddened to read so much pain but also comforted by you all sharing these replies. Feel a little less alone. Only had two relationships and both were horrible so thought I'd share the experiences and what I've learned in the aftermath.

Partner 1. First ever relationship. I was incredibly naive and ten years his junior. It was a whirlwind affair with a lot of emotions. My first real sexual experience and it was intense. He wooed me hard, he planned out our entire future in the very early days. Although I felt deeply in love I always had a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. I felt like I had opened every aspect of who I was but he was holding something back. After six months we attended a dinner party with his colleagues. He made a joke that I was "too thick" to understand the conversation. I have a university education and I was hurt and humiliated. He told me I had no sense of humour. Weeks later he called me by his ex's name while making love. I felt humiliated but he said I was too sensitive. The lingering sense that he was hiding something from me continued and he increasingly started to put me down, my intelligence being his favourite attack.

He was planning a work trip and I saw a notification on his phone from a dating site. More of a sex site to be honest. I joined using fake details and couldn't find him. The morning he left he kissed me goodbye and I signed in again. There he was looking for some of the most vile, violent, and fetishistic sex imaginable. He'd actually been online while I was sleeping next to him. I immediately emailed him telling him that I was leaving and blocked him through every method of contact. A month later he began a stalking campaign to woo me back. He turned up at my work bereft at what he'd done. He threatened suicide. I stupidly gave in and took him back.

Soon enough he again began to take me for granted and undermine my self-esteem. The feeling that he was still lying lingered. A year later his mother died. I'd helped him through this period emotionally and financially. Another work trip was upcoming and I joined several more websites to catch him. Soon enough there he was again. Multiple profiles, multiple apps and websites. All just vile. I'm not talking just regular sex, I'm talking the most deplorable and violent sex acts possible. Once again I confronted him and he blamed me. He was grieving and feeling stressed. It was my fault that I had let him cheat again when I suspected he was lying. I should have intervened to control him apparently.

We broke up. Two years later he comes back. New email addresses sending a constant stream of begging emails. Poems, cards, and letters through my door for months. Calling in person to my house and place of work. It ended only after a violent physical altercation on the street and I rang the police.

I have what I would now call an emotional collapse and was very ill after this relationship.

Partner 2. It took three years to trust myself again. I met a man my own age. Our values seemed to align. All green flags. Six months in he became distant and secretive and all sex stopped. Only to discover that he was hiding a massive drinking problem and depression. He blamed the secrecy on me being "perfect" and making him feel insecure. Soon enough he began to leave jobs, one after the other. He fell out with all of his family and friends. He began to "borrow" money from me to cover his bills. In our three years together I estimate I spent in advance of €15,000 on his rent, his car, his bills etc. By the end I was doing all of his paperwork and life admin. I had basically become his parent.

I sourced a therapist, a doctor, and a rehab facility for him only for him to decide that he didn't actually want to go. He'd rather wait...for what I'm not sure. I left him and after a few weeks his family start to bombard me with calls telling me that I had to take him back and look after him. I blocked them all too. He would turn up at my work hysterical begging for me to take him back and then ask for money when I said no.

It's now a few months later, little contact. I feel guilt and relief in equal measures being out of his orbit.

As to why I have twice allowed myself to enter and stay in two joyless and energy-draining relationships I'm not sure. I know that I have a tremendous need to look after others. I didn't just ignore a few red flags, I went on two never-ending tours of the factory where they manufacture red flags. I'm still very hurt but reading about codependency and considering therapy myself. I can't imagine trusting another man with my heart again. More than that I can't imagine trusting myself again.

Theneverendingcycle · 24/06/2024 23:58

This thread is so sad but also makes me realise I am not alone. Thank you.

Raped me and I stayed.
Forced me to get his name tattooed on me so he felt more secure
Beat me multiple times
Didn't let me wear make up
Punched me in the face holding his baby
Spat in my face
Refused to come home until I dressed up sexy for him

Another ex... crossing boundaries with different women and late night phone calls with different women, we broke up, I tried to fix us (wtf) we got back together 2 weeks later I found out he was shagging his ex the whole duration of our relationship.

pikkumyy77 · 25/06/2024 03:03

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Sharontheodopolodous · 25/06/2024 19:03

I was at work today when I remembered another ex

He was the master of negging

For context,at the time I was carrying a bit of extra baby weight and he was 8 and a half stone (if you'd thrown a bucket if water over his head)

He knew I was very conscious of my weight and would try and use it against me

Fast forward,we are standing in maccies (I mean what's an extra £10 for his meal when I'm paying for my own-he was an unemployed,permanently pissed,violent,loser cocklodger)

It was about the time mika and the song 'big girl you are beautiful' was in the charts

I'm ordering to the lady at the till,when he leans forward and starts singing 'going into maccy d's,counting out your 50ps,big girl you are fat as fuck!' While smirking at the lady

I'll never forget the pity in her eyes-i turned and walked out

I was in the wrong as he was 'only joking' (both him and his mother) 'too sensitive' (his sister) and the howls of protest,that he couldn't believe his free meal was walking away from him,had to be heard to be believed

It took another 3 months and one battering too many for me to leave-his whole family still blame me-his dad used to batter his mum,so 'I should have just got used to it' (his mums words)

I'm now with someone who thinks I'm a godess so it worked out,but I want to go back to younger me and slap some sense into her

Clueless2024 · 25/06/2024 20:05

Example 1 - Newly married, DH took himself away for a long weekend to see a sporting event. No expense spared. Luxury hotel, best seat at the game, obviously drinks & meals etc. Without any expectations or prompts from me, he told me MULTIPLE times during this weekend that "he was going to spoil me so much" & "bring me back so many gifts". Anyway, he gets home after his weekend away & is showing off all his new spoils he had bought for himself, again, money is no object, buys whatever he wants for himself (to be clear, is not a problem, just to give context). Anyway, I'm ashamed to say, I very meekly asked "what about me"? (Remember, dear reader, he'd told me several times how much he was going to "spoil me"). He just looks at me, no shame whatsoever & says "oh I didn't get you anything, I didn't know what you'd like".

Example 2 - out shopping with DH. We're in a high end store & I stop to inspect a sweater/cardigan. I pick it up to have a closer look, feel the material etc & decide I don't like it enough to want to buy it. DH asks if I want it for my birthday in a few weeks time, to which I replied "no thanks, I don't like it that much. I'd prefer perfume or something other". Guess what I got on my birthday? The sweater I said I didn't want.

I could go on

Turtletunes · 25/06/2024 22:58

Husband of 20 years says "I didn't know what to get you for your birthday, so I didn't get you anything". I reply "So what would you like me to tell my friends when they ask me what you got me?" Him "Oh I feel really bad now, what shall I do?" Me "Go fuck yourself" So I'm expected to resolve the problem of him looking bad to my friends, for him getting me nothing for my birthday? Hmm.

On another birthday, him "You said you didn't want anything for your birthday, so I didn't get you anything" Me "You are running with the excuse that I begged you to please please get me nothing for my birthday?" (I would never have said I didn't want anything)

datcherygrateful · 26/06/2024 07:57

Sorry- my heart is sinking at these posts, and have my head in my hands.

My ex husband was not working but needed a car so asked if i'd take out a loan, so I did (he'd pay me every month)
I was the breadwinner for a few yrs whilst he was studying. There were certain expenses he made me take credit card debt for. He never settled for used, everything needed to be new. So my CC debt rose. My CC debt was also creeping up because of food and fuel. We never travelled, bought gifts or anything in that period of time. I was working like a dog.

A few yrs later, when he secured a good job I asked if he'd help with bring the credit card down, he said no he was not responsible for any of my debts.

He refused to open a joint account because "women spend all the man's money"

I got myself a brand new car on finance as my then car was written off and the interest rates were pretty good. That bothered him. He said he is not ok with me having a nicer car than him so a few months later one upped me and got a huge brand new car- he couldn't afford this btw and his car that he still had was a couple of yrs old- brand new

When we first got married, I was on part time- he had recently moved to the UK, so wasn't allowed to claim any welfare. I was getting working tax credits to feed and fuel the home and provide for our son. They over payed and when the letter came through for me to pay it back he didn't see why he should contribute (even though the money was used to buy food and heat the home we live in together, and fuel the car that he was using)

After we got divorced I still asked if he would contribute as we were both adults in the house and to split the overpayment bill ( he by now on v good money- 3 or 4 times as much as me, I am still part time) . He refused and said since the money was paid into my account it was my problem.

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