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Unaware, self-centred friend and lack of support/awareness. Do I say something?

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Macaronicheesie · 17/06/2024 23:00

I am currently going through a divorce, 18 months in and in the process of now selling our family home.

I've been in therapy the whole time so not to bore my friends with my ongoing misery and instead have focused on new hobbies and new interests and spending time with them in positive ways. Now and then, I obviously talk about what's going on but try not to dwell too much in company but most of my few friends are very aware that my head is in a difficult place. They know that I am struggling to deal with anything "extra" if that makes sense. I've had a lot of worries and anxiety around being away from my children etc when they are with my ex.

I have one friend who has always been quite self centred however very friendly. I just don't think she's very aware of herself. She has continued burdening me with all her minor life issues and I'm getting quite tired of it considering I have so much going on. I get essays about her husband is annoying her, her boss is annoying her, her dad is annoying her. Long winded, petty, dramas. Thing is, when she does listen to me which is not too often, she's very good with advice, but getting to that point in our interactions is like leaping hurdles for 10 miles first.

I had a really tough weekend with my ex and I was in a low place last night. She messaged me with some minor irritations she'd experienced during the day, usual complaints which she never speaks to her husband about frustratingly. I responded that I'd had a rough day too and opened up on why. I got a one sentence token response before she was back to herself and her own life again.

I've suggested doing some positive things together recently, meeting for a walk or going for dinner instead of the negative messages about lifes dramas and challenges and our usual moany phone calls to each other but she's always too busy to do anything and is instead seemingly happy with airing all her grievances to me over the phone instead.

I feel like mentally, I don't have the spoons for it anymore. I have so much going on. And I'm left wondering what sort of friend she is being so self focused in the first place. Sometimes, I try to see her calls and messages as a distraction, but when I open up to her in return, she is disinterested and still focused on herself and her own life.

Sometimes, I only respond to her with an emoji or a one line message, and she will seemingly realise and ask if I'm ok, I open up a little and bam, we're back to a monologue about her week and her challenges again. I have often wondered if she's potentially neurodivergent. But that doesn't help me anyway.

I don't want to ghost her but I am grieving my marriage currently and coming to terms with his betrayal and have a lot of neglected emotions surfacing, my head is all over the place. I am on antidepressants and my oldest child is struggling with dividing her time between two houses and is also seeing a counsellor. I just feel so irritated with her complaints and monologues.

Do I tell her about her behaviour and its effect on me and explain that I need some space? This could potentially cause issues and other stresses in my life as I don't imagine she'll take it well, or is there another, more subtle way to get the message across to her that I don't have the mental capacity for all her mini dramas right now? Or do I just minimise contact?

Part of me is mad with her for not being more aware and being a better friend, and I worry as my patience is currently a little thin, that I may actually snap at her.

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Cattery · 17/06/2024 23:02

I had one of these. Binned

Pantaloons99 · 17/06/2024 23:05

I'd say no, don't tell her. I'm all for openness and honesty but I don't find these things work well. I believe this is a fundamental part of who she is.
I'd pull back consistently. Take time to reply, just stick to the emojis and keep using the sorry for delay, really stressful at mo. And don't bother telling her the details. This is all too exhausting right now and you haven't got the capacity to manage all her needs to get a few crumbs back.

You can reconnect more meaningfully down the line again if you want that. She sounds a pain in the ass tho from my perspective.

hopscotcher · 17/06/2024 23:08

Do I tell her about her behaviour and its effect on me and explain that I need some space? This could potentially cause issues and other stresses in my life as I don't imagine she'll take it well, or is there another, more subtle way to get the message across to her that I don't have the mental capacity for all her mini dramas right now? Or do I just minimise contact?

I think you could try to find a way to tell her this - obviously don't use phrases like 'mini dramas' but you could try and tell her (apologetically perhaps - not that you need to be sorry) that you don't have the headspace to listen to someone else's stuff for too long at the moment.

When it comes to talking about your own stuff, do you have other friends or family you can turn to? I have a friend who switches the conversation back to herself a lot - she's great in other ways, but I just don't confide stuff in her as I know I won't get the floor for long enough.

Hope you're OK, sounds like a tough time.

Circumferences · 17/06/2024 23:14

She obviously trusts you as a person in her life that she can offload to- and probably relies on this and feels this connects you?
I can totally understand you are at the end of your tether though. You have so much to deal with right now and could do with a friend who supports you and gives you a boost rather than drains your energy.
Maybe say to her "ok I have so much going on right now I don't have space for dealing with your stuff I hope you understand"

PardonMee · 17/06/2024 23:45

Just text her back that you feel overwhelmed going through the divorce, barely keeping your head above the water, and don’t feel resilient enough to support friends at the moment so apologies if you’re not able to focus on more day to day issues. Then lower contact. Take a few days to reply to texts. Talk about your own worries and not about hers.

Macaronicheesie · 18/06/2024 22:58

Thanks for the advice I think the next time she contacts me I'll just respond that I'm overwhelmed at the moment so I'm not in a place to help anyone else right now. I think she assumes I enjoy listening to her dramas but I actually just feel infuriated that she's telling me and not her husband (when it's about him not pulling his weight etc).

It really has made me wonder if she really cares at times.

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glittercunt · 18/06/2024 23:00

I'm honest with people now, I will let friends know my bandwidth is really low and that you don't want them to think you're uncaring but that you need some time to process your own problems.

SheilaFentiman · 18/06/2024 23:06

Macaronicheesie · 18/06/2024 22:58

Thanks for the advice I think the next time she contacts me I'll just respond that I'm overwhelmed at the moment so I'm not in a place to help anyone else right now. I think she assumes I enjoy listening to her dramas but I actually just feel infuriated that she's telling me and not her husband (when it's about him not pulling his weight etc).

It really has made me wonder if she really cares at times.

I agree with this approach.

She may be very thoughtless. She may think you welcome the distraction. Either way, fine to say you don’t have the bandwidth

Sceptical123 · 18/06/2024 23:07

She’s using you for free therapy. She can vent without having to part with any cash or upset her husband. Agree, keep responses short and don’t bother explaining or filling her in, she doesn’t care and doesn’t sound capable of realising what she’s doing and how it affects you.

Macaronicheesie · 25/06/2024 06:59

Thanks all. I think the issue has been the breadcrumbing that has kept me involved with her. Once i finally get my "turn" she's very helpful. But its 80% her talking on the whole about anything and everything.

I spoke to her yesterday and gave her a time limit " I need to go in 20 minutes" but she talked for the entire time, right until the last minute ans I couldn't get a word in no matter how hard I tried.

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