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Is it normal to be this sad about divorce I instigated?

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jocoffee · 10/06/2024 15:12

I really need some advice as I feel I am on the brink of going back to my marriage which I have just ended. Me and DH have been together 8 years, have a child and talked about having another (not for a couple of years due to life stuff happening). We were both completely in love at the beginning, I still remember it. He felt like 'home' and he still does in a strange way, he says the same about me. We were really happy. We had our ds quite early on and I think we were a bit too young and didn't prepare for parenting, we ended up clashing over parenting styles from very early, and DH's default response to conflict is sulking. I still remember the first time he did it, about 6 months into our relationship, and I was really upset as it came out of nowhere and was in response to nothing. He is very sensitive to what he thinks is criticism and I think he had a parenting model where his mother was very subordinate to his father and he also has a lot of anger towards his mother. His brother and dad sulk like this too. It's hurt me so many times, within even the first couple years of our relationship it led to him threatening to go home from a family holiday, sulking in front of my parents, sulking in front of ds, getting angry and pushing me off during sex.... so many times have been ruined by his sensitivity and inability to deal with his feelings. Many times ds has been a catalyst as he says I undermine him - but sometimes he has made ds cry and been very harsh (like his parents were) and I can't help stepping in, in those situations. We had a long string of counselling but he started the sulking and nasty remarks and threats of divorce up again within a year and he continually tells me i don't listen (if I argue back) and there is something wrong with me due to my troubled childhood, but by the same token he says he loves me more than anything and he just wants to look after me. But if thats the case, why does he hurt me so much? I have so much resentment primarily for how he has acted in front of ds and i think he resents me too for being 'difficult' as he says.

Nevertheless we have struggled on despite having trial separations twice. I think the love we had before is what has kept us together. Since we said we should divorce and we can't make it work, we have both been so upset. I keep crying, going back over our lovely family times, mourning our old life which will completely be gone forever. DH says he wants to make it work if there is anything left to save. I just don't know. My family hate him honestly and they are supporting me to leave. I have my ducks completely in a row. But it would be so easy to just fall apart and stay together, we have done it before. The idea of breaking up is so painful, for me and him and ds. I think I do still love DH and yet I know we can't stop this cycle of arguing. We have talked about divorce so many times, we can't get past that can we? Or can we? Is it normal to feel like this even when you know it's right? I think I could be OK in time and even happier than I have been for several years - but right now I am just devastated. Leaving someone you still love... is it ever the right thing to do? please help.

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jocoffee · 10/06/2024 20:05

bumping for any advice!

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ZestyMaximus · 10/06/2024 22:53

Oh OP. I feel your pain. I've been going through similar on and off for 10 years now. It has never gotten any better (for longer than a week or two maybe) before being just as bad as before.

Currently working through moving the mortgage and ownership of the house into my sole name. Incredibly sad and upsetting for both of us. But both acknowledging that despite what we call 'love' for each other, that's not what love actually is or should be and that the split is the right decision.

Feeling bad / upset / fragile / unhappy for a while whilst getting used to the split is going to be so hard. But we'll both get over it in time. But not as hard as another 10 years of more of the same, back and forth would be. Damaging each other further. Inflicting further wounds and scars on each other. At least by splitting we can both heal over time. You can and will too (as will he).

Scrollbreadroll · 10/06/2024 23:16

@jocoffee In the circumstance you describe then yes splitting up is the right thing to do. It sounds like you have been riding this relationship based on 6 months of happiness at the start where no doubt he was hiding his true self. 6 months into the relationship you saw a glimpse of what he was really like and then he’s continually let the mask slip since then shown you since then.

I can imagine when your child came along it would have been even harder for him to disguise due to the pressure parenthood puts on a couple.

Everyone has their ups and downs and disagreements but his behaviour which you describe is not normal. Not only that, but you have tried again and again to make this work, you have been to counselling and had 2 separations already. I really think you have tried as much as you can and drawn this out for as long as you can.

This is why so many people stay together unhappy married because they can’t go through the pain and logistics of splitting up. But that pain doesn’t last, you need to go through this tough time now to come out the other end. I have been in your shoes where I made the decision to leave someone I loved and it was so so painful, but I can guarantee time is a healer, and you just have to keep going. Look forward not backwards.

unbelievablescenes · 10/06/2024 23:32

This is the real guy, there's no changing him. I got to your stage and went back. More years of misery and unforgivable damage to our children, I made a terrible mistake. Please keep going...it will get easier

GoogleWhacking · 10/06/2024 23:40

DH and I split up a few years ago for many reasons. He moved out. We both sobbed the day he left. We had both been to counselling, it worked momentarily, but behaviour reverted. I spent 6 months working on myself. Got therapy for my own issues and gained a bit of insight into his.

We met up (for sex) talked and we've been super happy and together ever since. We still have blips but we appreciate each other much more.

Maybe some time apart, without actually getting divorced, and working on you will give you a different perspective. Not saying you will get together again, but it's not divorce or nothing. It's stepping out of the rut. Being yourselves again.

I know you've had trial soerationa before, but did you seek therapy for yourself?

somethingwickedlivesnextdoor · 11/06/2024 00:29

unbelievablescenes · 10/06/2024 23:32

This is the real guy, there's no changing him. I got to your stage and went back. More years of misery and unforgivable damage to our children, I made a terrible mistake. Please keep going...it will get easier

This!

AgentJohnson · 11/06/2024 07:20

So what actually changed in the previous separations? Love is not enough and you shouldn’t subject your child to that fallacy. If you/ he are serious about saving your relationship what are you/ he prepared to do to achieve that aim.? Missing each other and being sad is not a good enough reason to keep getting back together.

The very least you both need to do is undertake solo counselling.

SpringleDingle · 11/06/2024 07:27

Yes. I instigated the divorce after a rocky 5 years and a lot of frustration and hurt. It was really sad. I killed off the hope I’d been holding that we could get back to where we started. I married XH because I loved him and admitting it was over was tough.

BUT - He no longer made me happy. I trust myself that I don’t make rash decisions. Once I’d told my DD it seemed to me that it would be cruel to her to flip flop. So I trusted my original decision, put my head down and got divorced despite the frequent feelings of sadness, longing, fear, etc.. I didn’t want my actual H back but the man I’d thought he was when we met, the guy I fell in love with. Sadly he was no longer available.

It was 100% the right decision. I see it totally clearly now and have never regretted it (am 6 years on now).

CannotWaitToBeFree · 11/06/2024 07:29

Keep going the end is in sight!

GinForBreakfast · 11/06/2024 07:30

Sounds like you are doing the right thing in divorcing. Your DS could learn the same pattern again in his relationships so break the cycle now! You can have a loving relationship again without the nastiness.

EveningSpread · 11/06/2024 07:35

I know there are always good times in any relationship but you describe some really awful and manipulative behaviour from him. A life with him is a life full of that.

You can have a life free of all the pain and stress and drama this relationship entails.

You might be surprised by how much better you feel m, and quickly.

Have you read ‘Why Does He Do That’ by Lundy Bancroft? It might help you to find your anger and resolve.

Baaliali · 11/06/2024 07:36

It is grief @jocoffee and yes where there are still feelings it is normal to feel such a loss. But it doesn’t mean that you are wrong. How you describe his parent’s relationship with him is really telling about his behaviour but ultimately it is his responsibility to fix what they obviously broke. He doesn’t seem to be addressing his issues even after all of this time and with all of that he has to lose. You will lose yourself completely unless he starts to grow up. Conflict/ disagreement is fundamental to relationships and if someone cannot address their issues around dealing with conflict any relationship has no chance if one person can’t move through resolution of disagreements.

upthespoutagain · 11/06/2024 07:41

Would he consider going for counselling just for himself? I know people are saying that he can't change, but everyone can change. He has learned to behave in this way from his family, but he doesn't have to be stuck in that pattern for life. Even if it didn't result in you being back together it would improve his relationship with your son.

anyolddinosaur · 11/06/2024 07:41

Grief is normal - many women return to their abusers and need several attempts to leave.

Wish44 · 11/06/2024 07:43

Will he go to therapy to explore his childhood and learn other ways of coping with anger than sulking? If not then it’s doomed.

my ex was like this. Subservient mother. I think they grow up thinking women are there for them . The children tell me ex does exactly the same with new wife. Sulks for days over the smallest thing. It’s soul destroying. And they don’t care about hurting you as you are not an equal in their eyes. It will spoil your life.

leaving will hurt for a bit but you will get over it and be fine. Staying will hurt for ever.

LemonCitron · 11/06/2024 08:20

Sulking would be a deal breaker for me, I can't bear a man who sulks.

The problem is that it's deeply ingrained in him as a response to conflict. It's sad but if counselling didn't make a difference then you may be right to call it a day Sad

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