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Zoe230123 · 08/06/2024 06:47

Hello everyone,

I'm 27, my “husband” is 29. We've been together for 6 years, soon to be 7. We got engaged, then married, then divorced, and 2-3 months after our divorce we got back together and decided to get married again this summer.

Before our divorce we had a very toxic relationship, which led to several break-ups. This ranged from rpe during the years we dated, to insults, lies, physical fights, etc. I decided to divorce him because of the relationship he had with his mother, who harassed me, insulted me, threatened to kll me during the year we were married, and who interfered enormously with our relationship. It was the last drop that made the cup run over.

I don't claim to have been perfect all this time, I think our main problem was that despite loving each other, we couldn't understand each other, or express ourselves properly, until an argument broke out and escalated and we did a lot of damage to each other. For example, the first month of our marriage I found out I was pregnant and I wasn't ready for it, I had a lot of trouble to accept it and I could never be listened to or understood by my husband, for him: what kind of woman am I if I'm not happy about being pregnant? no matter how hard I tried to find the right phrases, the right words. He was with me at every medical appointment, every test, but what I needed most during those six months was for him to listen to me, to understand my fears, to validate them, and to reassure me...

After we got divorced, we separated for 2 months and I started therapy. My therapist explained to me that I have rejection trauma... I was able to understand my share of mistakes, we got back together and spent hours and hours discussing them, then we promised each other to communicate better, to try to trust each other, etc.

Everything went well for the first 3 months, we were happy together, he put a lot of distance between himself and his family, he respected my body, we were much calmer, everything was fine, but he started putting a lot of pressure on me for the wedding. One day I searched his phone and saw that he was talking to another woman, I don't think they slept together, but their conversations were quite explicit + he lied to me about some nights out with his friends. Despite that, after many discussions about trust, honesty and communication all over again, we got back together , and the following months were wonderful. We both made efforts to make it work, and I could see that he has changed.

Until... I got pregnant again! We had already discussed this topic many times : I clearly told him that I wasn't ready yet. He knew I wasn't using contraception and that my body wasn't ready yet. I just gave birth last year, had medical complications in the second trimester, and our baby died, and I almost died too. The idea of getting pregnant terrified me, but in the month leading up to the pregnancy, he kept pushing and insisting on removing the condom at the beginning, telling me that I was worried for nothing and that he had control. The times when I refused, he resented me a lot.

I don't know if I have the right to feel what I felt when I found out about this pregnancy.. But I felt v*olated once again. I felt like my body had been used against my will, again. I don't know if I'm playing the victim here, I'm confused. I know for sure that I refused every contact without a protection, and I know he was the one who kept pressuring me.

I decided not to keep it, even though he really wanted to. We talked about it, and I explained that we are young and the best is yet to come, that we have our whole lives to have children, we should stick to our plans without blaming each others. I know it was my choice, but this experience traumatized me and deeply depressed me. Since then, I feel like I'm stuck in time, like I can't do anything, my brain is blocked. And I felt that it affected him a lot too, that he felt like he was losing a second baby, that he was reliving the same loss, and I know he resented me a lot.

The night before our medical appointment, he didn't come home until 4 AM. I was bleeding a lot, and I texted him that I needed him ASAP; that I wasn't doing well, but he didn't respond all night. I was angry when he finally came home. he told me I was being dramatic, then he went to sleep. The following days were the same; he would come home late and avoid any conversation with me. This situation made me feel deeply unwell. I just wanted to talk, by the 3rd I day I went to him crying, begged him to listen. I told him I was feeling very anxious and was having dark thoughts. He took out his phone and filmed me while I was having this breakdown, he said I was sick, then slammed the door and left. When I asked if he wanted to break up or didn't love me anymore, he said no, that he just thought this relationship was hurting him a lot.

This went on for a week. I did my best to keep him from seeing me in that state, to be more cheerful. This week, he had to go through some interviews, so I helped him with his recommendation letter, made his CV, etc. I encouraged him a lot, and he got the job. But yesterday, I discovered that he had lied to me about his salary and other things. It made me mad, I demanded an explanation. He insulted me, saying I was always snooping, so it was normal if I found things. He's just a man, why am I being overly dramatic over everything ? I took his stuff and kicked him out. He kept sending me messages saying he was an idiot, that he was sorry, that he doesn,t know why he lied, that he loved me more than anything, that he wanted us to get married, etc.

As I was writing this message, wondering if I did something wrong, if I should just give him time. Is this anormal behaviour after losing a baby? He came to my place drunk. I helped him take a shower, ordered him food, held him, and put him to sleep. I told him we would discuss everything tomorrow. But I had this feeling in my guts that he was hiding more things and that, as always, he wouldn't be honest. And then I saw... while I was writhing in pain, he was with this "client." She had made advances towards him and was "emotionally supporting" him through this ordeal. The irony goes even further—she is a doctor at the clinic where I had the operation. When I was under anesthesia, he was with her. And before coming to my place, he had talked to her all day and told his friend he was going f*ck her.

I'm sorry for this post that might not make any sense. I feel so enraged that my stomach literally hurts. I don't even know what to feel anymore. I don't know. I kicked him out to avoid doing something crazy, but I feel like my head is going to explode. He had the nerve to tell me that it was because I didn't listen to him enough. WTF??? I was there every night trying to talk, console and reassure him. The amount of audacity he has continues to amaze me. I don't know why I keep hoping for apologies everytime, waiting for something, as if he will understand all the harm he's causing me. I feel so, so betrayed. I don't know how to handle this amount of hurt anymore.

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Elasticatedtrousers · 08/06/2024 06:56

‘I don’t know how to handle this amount of hurt anymore.’

You don’t have to. You are choosing this. He has consistently showed you that he’s an unsafe partner for you; he’s abusive. You should have exited the relationship a long time ago.

You need to be your own best friend and put yourself first. Get out and get rid of this nasty individual.

And don’t look back.

Otherwise you are just choosing more of the same.

You deserve SO much better!

Matildahoney · 08/06/2024 06:59

You should never have gone back the first time.
Get out now and never look back, absolutely no part of this relationship sounds good.

prettydesertflower · 08/06/2024 07:06

Do not remarry him. You have worked on yourself and had therapy. He has not and us putting on an act to get you married again so he can control you. This relationship sounds very unhealthy and you are accumulating a lot of trauma. Why? Just leave him alone, heal and start again. Don’t believe the lie “The best is yet to come”. It won’t.

FedUpMumof10YO · 08/06/2024 07:10

You didn't divorce him because of his mother, you divorced because of all his actions.

I would save yourself years of shit, heartbreak and abuse and get out now. Future you will be eternally grateful.

PinkLemonade555 · 08/06/2024 07:15

Do some reading on narcissistic abuse and then do the deep and hard work of working out why you are choosing someone that does this to you.

Michellebops · 08/06/2024 07:15

Oh goodness you have been through so much pain and heartbreak.

You need to get away from him. It's too toxic, he's toxic and not treating you as well as he should.

Your body, your choice, he is literally choosing to impregnate you by removing the condom, he's in control. Time to take back control, ask him to leave, cancel the wedding and take some time to heal and mourn your baby.

If you don't want to leave, your choice, at least go get put on the pill or other forms of contraception then when he insists on removing the condom the risk of pregnancy is reduced.

Also get and sti test since he could be sleeping about.

whatamess100 · 08/06/2024 07:23

Goodness, you were right to say your relationship is toxic. Some people just aren't right for each other. Cut your losses and work on yourself again x

Zoe230123 · 10/06/2024 10:57

Wow, I didn't think this post would be accepted.

Thank you for your feedback. I know I need to leave this relationship.
But every time I try, I feel so lonely and I can't do it. Over the years, I've lost everyone around me.
Before getting together with him, I had a few friends I cherished. I never had that many, but the ones I did meant a lot to me. I could talk to them and just be happy around them.
Over time, I lost all of them them. The friends of the opposite sex, I couldn't see them at all anymore, and eventually, even the contacts disappeared.
As for the friends of the same sex, I realize that each time it was "You know, the other day, she looked at me a certain way, she tried to seduce me" or "You shouldn't trust her, she's not good for you."
Even my relationships with my sisters were affected. For example, some incidents happened with them that I didn't like much, buy honestly it was OK, it happens.. but he would always remind me of those things that hurt to tell me "No one cares about you. Even your own family doesn't care that much".

Practically, when I moved to a new city to marry him, I had nothing left in my life but work. It's like I had a new identity with. No one knew about me besides him and my colleagues.
I changed my phone number, I had no social media anymone, no friends.
Even with my colleagues, things went well at first, but then certain events happened (like dinners with my boss (a woman) or work parties) that made him so angry that I disengaged from those too. And since then, whenever he does something (like coming home at 1 or 2 AM), and I ask where he was, he would say "Listen, you also went to that party one day, and there was music and guys and everything." It was like once in three years ago, for WORK; I was the last to arrive and the first to leave, and he was literally out.

Anyway, all this to explain that every time I try to leave, like right now (he has left the house,I've blocked him, etc.), I feel an overwhelming anxiety to be alone while he's bombarding me with "I love you" and "I'm sorry," and I always end up going back to him.

It's this phase that I find very hard to handle. I KNOOOW for fact that I should never ever come back, I just don't know how to navigate this step.

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Cliedi · 10/06/2024 11:01

Oh my love. You need to get away. Would your sisters or other family members help? If they are nice people they will know that you’re in an abusive relationship and will be desperately hoping that you reach out for help and leave him, Pack yourself a bag when he’s out and just leave. Block him and never ever look back. There are women’s shelters you can go.

Zoe230123 · 10/06/2024 11:51

Fortunately, it's my house. It's one of the good decisions I've made. So hés the one who's leaving. But that's also what makes it difficult for me to move back to my hometown, as I have a long-term mortgage.

This have been a sensitive topic between us, as when we got married he had just started his career and couldn't afford to invest in a house. So, he left his parents' home to move directly into our house (he's the one who chose it).
But when there were fights (especially physical ones) or when I discovered, say, an infidelity like this time, I would ask him to leave.

I know it was very hard for his ego to go back to his parents' place with his belongings each time, especially since he didn't tell them what really happened. He just said that I kicked him out, and that's one of the reasons why his mother hates me.
And him and his family resented me for that, because according to them, it was "abusive" on my part. I always felt guilty for putting him in that situation. Even after everything that just happened, honestly, it breaks my heart that he has to go back there, that it's like I'm breaking his stability, as if he trusted me and we settled down, and suddenly he finds himself out on the street. This idea makes me so uncomfortable that after the divorce I preferred that he stop buying anything for the house or for me, and save it instead so he can have his own place.

But at the same time, I think I shouldn't feel this was. He was the one who kept breaking our stability, but I can't get rid of the guilt.

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