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New partner has severe anger issues - have I done the right thing?

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 18:05

Hiya,

I don’t know where to turn and so I have signed up here hoping I can find some advice, even just some words to tell me that today I have done the right thing. I don’t know. I can’t stop crying. This is a long story but I really hope someone has the time to read it.

In September of last year I met a wonderful Irishman (will call him M). I’m from England, we met through work. He swept me off my feet, to put it simply. He made me feel amazing. We’d meet and extend our stay wherever we were with work, and eventually he’d come over here to see me and vise versa.

We both have children, both are age 2. We knew this about each other when we met. Within 5 months my then partner had moved out (we were very much on the rocks) and I was ready to start my new life with M, I knew my son would love him and I was very excited. M had told me he really wanted to start his life over again in England, having fallen out with most of his family, he told me his then partner and mother to his child was abusive towards him, and that he could see himself thriving over here with me. He would be in tears telling me this, it really pulled at my heart strings. Of course I wanted to make sure he’d be able to see his daughter and he told me he could make that work.

A whirlwind. Everything felt so good. I told my parents I’d met someone else and what the plans were; they were happy for me and my son thinking I was doing the right thing for me.

Then one day I just didn’t hear from him. This was weird because he’d not stopped messaging before this. Two days went by and finally he got in touch, explaining he can’t come over, he can’t leave his wee girl. I was fully understanding of this and I told him that he should stay in Northern Ireland for as long as he wanted, forever if that’s what was required, and I cared about him too much to make him feel like he had to move over here. I explained we could make it work; it’s a short flight over and we could do on/off locations with our time. He seemed to settle down to this idea, and we went on doing that.

Time went on and he wasn’t quite as talkative when we weren’t together via text but I tried not to doubt. We met in London for a work event and I was really poorly, my appendix has burst (unbeknownst to me of course!) and I ended up coming back to the North quickly and into emergency surgery.

It was this time when he didn’t get in touch that I decided to take it upon myself to end it, as hard as it was, having uprooted my life for this man, he couldn’t even get in touch to ask me how I was. When he eventually did reach out he told me how his life was a mess and he was so sorry for not being in touch. I’m cutting lots of corners here so this thread isn’t insanely long, but I forgave him.

We met again on Dublin for a work event, first time I’d seen him since then. We talked, I cried, I tried to understand what went wrong but he said it was him, he was a mess and he’d lost everything (?). He said he wanted to make it work with us.

He moved out of the house he was in with his partner, and for a month or two we barely spoke. He was going out and getting trollied, taking any amount of drugs and disappearing for days so I’d not hear from him. What I did notice when I saw / spoke to him was that he had lost weight and seemed highly irritable at anything. Still for whatever reason I wanted to make it work - the man I’d met in September was still in there.

I then went on to receive a phonecall from his now ex girlfriend and mother of child after she found my phone number on his smart watch. She told me she was his girlfriend and wanted to know who I was. She was kind and told me she wouldn’t blame me and it was entirely on him, she said she’d kicked him out due to the late nights, drugs and lies. He swore they weren’t together and that he hadn’t told her about me to protect himself from losing access to his child. I took his word.

Very long story short now, I have returned home having spent the weekend with at his new rented home. The red flags I got this weekend have knocked me for six and today I ended it for good. This first one is silly, but I’d asked him to buy me some new pyjamas for me coming over, to make it homely if this is what we were going to do. He didn’t, he said he forgot. He went on to tell me he had no money (oh we had also said we’d split the flight costs, but we never did. I paid for the last 3 lots). I bought him and his daughter who was due over a small food shop, and I treat us to drinks out that evening moreso because I needed a drink then as I was suddenly regretting coming over.

The worst part for me and what set my decision in stone was how he acted in front of his 2 year old. It was her first time meeting me so I was nervous and I wanted it to be lovely. Basically his phone charger wasn’t working, and suddenly he blew a basket - I mean screaming at it, swearing so loudly ‘this FING THING, F ME!!!!’ and he balled his fist as if he was going to punch the wall. I got such a fright, but the baby didn’t seem too phased. He shouted for a good long minute like this, red in the face. Every so often, even when he wasn’t shouting, I’d look to see her sitting covering her eyes. I know all children develop at different stages but I also noticed she was so timid and she did not say a word; not a single thing. Just cried or seemed to get angry sometimes.

So today I ended it. I left him a voicemail explaining that it was too hurtful and chaotic for me to be involved anymore and that my emotions couldn’t handle it. He told me to go away and leave him alone and that now ‘he’s lost everything’s

I just feel utterly empty. I know I’ve made the right decision but I just feel so very low. Nice words would be amazing :(

OP posts:
Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 19:17

Justcallmebebes · 03/06/2024 19:04

Yes this. There's a lot about how this has affected you with very little concern to the kids caught up in this shit show. There's a vulnerable baby caught up in this. That's who your concern should be directed at

My concern is directed at this, if you look at my replies, and the ultimatum for me. I’m not here to argue with people. Thanks for your comment.

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 19:19

LizzieBennett73 · 03/06/2024 18:59

Does his child's mother realise he's a drug user? To be honest, you lost me within the few first few sentences, but you also exposed your own child to this and let the situation run for far too long before you saw without your rose coloured glasses on. I think you need to talk to someone about why you thought such a no hoper was good enough to leave your then partner for....

Thanks for stating what is now completely clear to me. He never met my son and I never felt the need to and I’m glad I saw him for what he was before it escalated any further. I have every intention of informing the child’s mother. If I lost you within the first few sentences I’d rather you hadn’t bothered.

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 19:20

Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 19:19

Thanks for stating what is now completely clear to me. He never met my son and I never felt the need to and I’m glad I saw him for what he was before it escalated any further. I have every intention of informing the child’s mother. If I lost you within the first few sentences I’d rather you hadn’t bothered.

You also have no idea why I left my partner, but again, thank you for that.

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 19:25

Wellbeing24 · 03/06/2024 19:22

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/gateway-service-teams-contact-details

Please call them OP, you can stay anonymous if you wish to but please report your concerns ASAP.

I'd also suggest you look at the Freedom Programme for yourself? https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/online.php

Stay safe xx

I am doing so. Thank you so much for your help x

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 19:38

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It’s so difficult because I’ve seen his face messed up last year where he said she’d beaten him up. So idk if going to the mum is a good idea. I am going to report the behaviour to SS in NI, I feel that’s the best thing to do. Thank you for your reply I really appreciate it. And you’ve nailed it - all of those things I just needed a stranger to put down in writing I guess. Total scum bag.

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Swanbeauty · 03/06/2024 19:47

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Lavender14 · 03/06/2024 19:49

Hi op. You need to phone gateway social services in Northern Ireland and tell them what happened. There is a regional emergency duty social worker for out of hours, or a child protection gateway number for each area. So for example if you know he lives in say, belfast you'd ring the belfast gateway team. You can also contact NSPCC and make an anonymous report through them.

You did the right thing ending the relationship.

For yourself though, just reading through what you've written there are so so many red flags that jumped out way before you got to that visit where you didn't get pyjamas and he lost his temper. I would gently suggest you take some time and really think what happened that you allowed this man to love bomb and gaslight you. And why you'd have been willing to consider someone with an active addiction when you've got a small child to think about. I think you need to reflect on what are the things you really want and need in a partner and what your lines in the sand are to help you protect yourself and your child from this type of situation again. No judgement- its so easy to get caught up in something when your attracted to someone and they're manipulative and charismatic enough, but take this chance to learn from it so you're less likely to be in this scenario again.

Lavender14 · 03/06/2024 19:52

Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 19:38

It’s so difficult because I’ve seen his face messed up last year where he said she’d beaten him up. So idk if going to the mum is a good idea. I am going to report the behaviour to SS in NI, I feel that’s the best thing to do. Thank you for your reply I really appreciate it. And you’ve nailed it - all of those things I just needed a stranger to put down in writing I guess. Total scum bag.

Also just to say, you've no idea if she actually inflicted those marks in self defense or if it was actually someone else altogether or if, rather than it being an uneven power dynamic, they both just fought and were totally toxic together. It's not really something you need to make judgement on - that's social services job.

Durdledore · 03/06/2024 19:57

PLEASE report to social services. That poor girl.

Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 20:00

Lavender14 · 03/06/2024 19:49

Hi op. You need to phone gateway social services in Northern Ireland and tell them what happened. There is a regional emergency duty social worker for out of hours, or a child protection gateway number for each area. So for example if you know he lives in say, belfast you'd ring the belfast gateway team. You can also contact NSPCC and make an anonymous report through them.

You did the right thing ending the relationship.

For yourself though, just reading through what you've written there are so so many red flags that jumped out way before you got to that visit where you didn't get pyjamas and he lost his temper. I would gently suggest you take some time and really think what happened that you allowed this man to love bomb and gaslight you. And why you'd have been willing to consider someone with an active addiction when you've got a small child to think about. I think you need to reflect on what are the things you really want and need in a partner and what your lines in the sand are to help you protect yourself and your child from this type of situation again. No judgement- its so easy to get caught up in something when your attracted to someone and they're manipulative and charismatic enough, but take this chance to learn from it so you're less likely to be in this scenario again.

Thank you so much for your balanced and thought out response, you made me cry (in a comforting way).

I am working through best options for reporting and am going to do so by end of the evening.

Regarding myself I’m not my biggest fan either, and I have stuff I must work through to understand why I thought I could ever make this work. When we first met I thought he’d be a great fit for my family but as time wore on I decided not to let him meet my son. I just continued to see him myself hoping things would change or snap back to early days. I don’t know.

thank you again ♥️

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 20:01

Durdledore · 03/06/2024 19:57

PLEASE report to social services. That poor girl.

I am doing so.

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 20:01

Lavender14 · 03/06/2024 19:52

Also just to say, you've no idea if she actually inflicted those marks in self defense or if it was actually someone else altogether or if, rather than it being an uneven power dynamic, they both just fought and were totally toxic together. It's not really something you need to make judgement on - that's social services job.

Yes. So true. Thank you.

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 20:04

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I am going to report my concerns and allow myself some head space - I have his ex’s number unblocked, so if anything comes to fruition re SS, I imagine she may well reach out to me. In the meantime I’m hoping by reporting I can leave it in hands of professionals and allow myself to breathe and move on with my little boy who, as others have said, thankfully did not have to be in the same room as this man. I did something right :(

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 20:05

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Only when we host events. I think if he tries to contact me or be aggressive again via Teams (he was today) I will raise it with exec. I am just processing and in the middle of reporting safety of little girl. Thank you, honestly x

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Swanbeauty · 03/06/2024 20:17

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 20:39

Thanks to everyone who responded with constructive and supportive comments. I have reported my concerns about the little girl involved. X

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Nomorecoconutboosts · 03/06/2024 20:52

@Alexandra6322
well
done on reporting x
I’d suggest try to have a quiet few days, let some time pass before you reflect or process too deeply on it all
You’ll likely have a lot of emotions and thoughts about what’s happened

Delawear · 03/06/2024 20:56

Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 18:32

Thank you, will it remain anonymous?

I am not sure because I am not actually in NI, but I suspect it can be. I would ask when you speak to them.

Delawear · 03/06/2024 20:56

And good luck 💐

Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 21:08

Nomorecoconutboosts · 03/06/2024 20:52

@Alexandra6322
well
done on reporting x
I’d suggest try to have a quiet few days, let some time pass before you reflect or process too deeply on it all
You’ll likely have a lot of emotions and thoughts about what’s happened

♥️

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Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 21:08

Delawear · 03/06/2024 20:56

And good luck 💐

♥️♥️

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Swanbeauty · 03/06/2024 21:59

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Noseybookworm · 03/06/2024 23:30

Alexandra6322 · 03/06/2024 18:05

Hiya,

I don’t know where to turn and so I have signed up here hoping I can find some advice, even just some words to tell me that today I have done the right thing. I don’t know. I can’t stop crying. This is a long story but I really hope someone has the time to read it.

In September of last year I met a wonderful Irishman (will call him M). I’m from England, we met through work. He swept me off my feet, to put it simply. He made me feel amazing. We’d meet and extend our stay wherever we were with work, and eventually he’d come over here to see me and vise versa.

We both have children, both are age 2. We knew this about each other when we met. Within 5 months my then partner had moved out (we were very much on the rocks) and I was ready to start my new life with M, I knew my son would love him and I was very excited. M had told me he really wanted to start his life over again in England, having fallen out with most of his family, he told me his then partner and mother to his child was abusive towards him, and that he could see himself thriving over here with me. He would be in tears telling me this, it really pulled at my heart strings. Of course I wanted to make sure he’d be able to see his daughter and he told me he could make that work.

A whirlwind. Everything felt so good. I told my parents I’d met someone else and what the plans were; they were happy for me and my son thinking I was doing the right thing for me.

Then one day I just didn’t hear from him. This was weird because he’d not stopped messaging before this. Two days went by and finally he got in touch, explaining he can’t come over, he can’t leave his wee girl. I was fully understanding of this and I told him that he should stay in Northern Ireland for as long as he wanted, forever if that’s what was required, and I cared about him too much to make him feel like he had to move over here. I explained we could make it work; it’s a short flight over and we could do on/off locations with our time. He seemed to settle down to this idea, and we went on doing that.

Time went on and he wasn’t quite as talkative when we weren’t together via text but I tried not to doubt. We met in London for a work event and I was really poorly, my appendix has burst (unbeknownst to me of course!) and I ended up coming back to the North quickly and into emergency surgery.

It was this time when he didn’t get in touch that I decided to take it upon myself to end it, as hard as it was, having uprooted my life for this man, he couldn’t even get in touch to ask me how I was. When he eventually did reach out he told me how his life was a mess and he was so sorry for not being in touch. I’m cutting lots of corners here so this thread isn’t insanely long, but I forgave him.

We met again on Dublin for a work event, first time I’d seen him since then. We talked, I cried, I tried to understand what went wrong but he said it was him, he was a mess and he’d lost everything (?). He said he wanted to make it work with us.

He moved out of the house he was in with his partner, and for a month or two we barely spoke. He was going out and getting trollied, taking any amount of drugs and disappearing for days so I’d not hear from him. What I did notice when I saw / spoke to him was that he had lost weight and seemed highly irritable at anything. Still for whatever reason I wanted to make it work - the man I’d met in September was still in there.

I then went on to receive a phonecall from his now ex girlfriend and mother of child after she found my phone number on his smart watch. She told me she was his girlfriend and wanted to know who I was. She was kind and told me she wouldn’t blame me and it was entirely on him, she said she’d kicked him out due to the late nights, drugs and lies. He swore they weren’t together and that he hadn’t told her about me to protect himself from losing access to his child. I took his word.

Very long story short now, I have returned home having spent the weekend with at his new rented home. The red flags I got this weekend have knocked me for six and today I ended it for good. This first one is silly, but I’d asked him to buy me some new pyjamas for me coming over, to make it homely if this is what we were going to do. He didn’t, he said he forgot. He went on to tell me he had no money (oh we had also said we’d split the flight costs, but we never did. I paid for the last 3 lots). I bought him and his daughter who was due over a small food shop, and I treat us to drinks out that evening moreso because I needed a drink then as I was suddenly regretting coming over.

The worst part for me and what set my decision in stone was how he acted in front of his 2 year old. It was her first time meeting me so I was nervous and I wanted it to be lovely. Basically his phone charger wasn’t working, and suddenly he blew a basket - I mean screaming at it, swearing so loudly ‘this FING THING, F ME!!!!’ and he balled his fist as if he was going to punch the wall. I got such a fright, but the baby didn’t seem too phased. He shouted for a good long minute like this, red in the face. Every so often, even when he wasn’t shouting, I’d look to see her sitting covering her eyes. I know all children develop at different stages but I also noticed she was so timid and she did not say a word; not a single thing. Just cried or seemed to get angry sometimes.

So today I ended it. I left him a voicemail explaining that it was too hurtful and chaotic for me to be involved anymore and that my emotions couldn’t handle it. He told me to go away and leave him alone and that now ‘he’s lost everything’s

I just feel utterly empty. I know I’ve made the right decision but I just feel so very low. Nice words would be amazing :(

You've been a fool for this man despite a whole army of red flags. But now you've ended it, do not go back on it. Block him on everything so he can't contact you. Distract yourself with whatever helps - seeing friends, going running/walking/gym, starting a new hobby/decorating the house/throwing yourself into work. Keep busy and don't allow yourself to spend time thinking about him and brooding.

I'd also be concerned about his baby girl. Have you considered contacting social services in NI to report your concerns? She could be in danger.