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Can somebody tell me what is going on here? H said people in their 40's don't have sex.

21 replies

Whatwasthatallabout · 03/06/2024 09:40

I am so sorry, this is long ramble. Thankyou if you read this.

I will try to be objective and factual as possible. I am hoping somebody might give me some insight.

I am in the process of divorcing my husband. It is a long drawn out process as he is refusing to participate.

He makes my life more difficult with him in it.
I am divorcing him because he never pulled his weight. I lost attraction to him due to things that happened in our marriage.

Once,I came home from work, he was asleep upstairs and my then 3 year old was downstairs unsupervised. I bought gates for my driveway after this incident. Another time, I came home from work and my then 2 year old was asleep on a couch with her coat on. I checked her temp and it was 40 degrees. She ended up hospitalised with tonsillitis. I think I may have had PND and general feeling of inability to cope as I enlisted the support of my family to deal with his ineptitude with the children rather than initiate a divorce. It limped along. He will deny that these events took place. I feel guilty about this and should have done better on behalf of my dc.

He never cooked dinners or participated in chore sharing. He appears incompetent Examples; He got somebody to paint a small patch of our house and just left it like that. I saved money for a year and got somebody to paint the entire house. He will deny that this happened.

He left a huge cut out in ceiling of utility room as he was checking for leak. He never repaired it and left loose ramshackle units and sink in utility room. He had trained for many years as a carpenter. I saved money and got a proper utility room fitted and the ceiling repaired.

His bedroom is thick with mess. He is lazy and disorganised. He has left the children's bikes out in the rain and breaks and damages things through carelessness.This is my truthful experience. I could write a book about his level of laziness. He says he is a good man and is not lazy. I felt resentful of him and grew to despise him. We have been sexless for 6 years. He is arrogant.

Over the years, I entered into discussions to try and sort out how we need to end the marriage amicably. There was absolutely no discussion or acceptance. It was deemed all my fault. Contempt grew, I couldn't bear to be in same room as him. I feel ashamed for raising my two dd in this environment. I filed for divorce a few years ago.

He is refusing to engage or acknowledge the marriage is over. I feel trapped. My solicitor has advised me to stay in the home or I will lose all interest in it and end up with nothing.

Husband tells me that I should move in with my mother and he will take care of our daughters(now 9 and 12). He said they will be fine without me and will not be upset. He said as I am the one ending it, I need to leave. It is all my fault. He said people in their 40's don't have sex and our marriage is typical- separate bedrooms, separate lives.

My dd is embarrassed as he talked about puberty with her. He said it was normal for modern fathers to be open about this. He is obsessed with my health. He told me I am sick. I am on blood pressure tablets but I never disclosed this to him. He told me I was on them. I keep my bedroom locked but recently discovered he has a key to my bedroom and has been entering my room. My tablets were hidden in a drawer.I don't want him to hear me using the loo at night as I am afraid he will comment on it. I have no privacy.

He has opened my post. He ignores that the marriage is over. His mother gave me a birthday present, he sent me a happy birthday text with family emoji. He refuses to engage with the courts.

Last night he sent text asking did I need a lift home. He persists with the marriage. He was standing in the kitchen when I got home last night. I jumped when I saw him.The relationship ended many years ago. There is no getting through to him. I had a nightmare last night. I am very stressed. Am I being abused?

He never shouts or loses his cool or makes threats. My gut feeling is one of apprehension, sadness, frustration and fear. My well being is suffering under the strain. I put on a brave face for my two beautiful girls. I feel guilty that he is their father and this is the model of their relationship. What will I do? I feel powerless now.

He is not cross or abusive to daughters but he does not appear to have a particularly good rapport/bond with them. Obviously I don't know what their experience of him is as I see him through a different lense.

I think that I provide all emotional support to them, we have a loving, easy bond and have lots of fun together despite circumstances. I provide all practical care for them- meals, laundry, dentist, hairdresser, grooming, entertainment, socialising etc. I can't leave them with him.

What kind of abuse is this? Or is it just irreconcilable differences?

Thankyou to anybody who got to the end.

OP posts:
IDontLikePinaColadas · 04/06/2024 16:00

I read your post yesterday and hoped that someone with more understanding in what you're going through would comment, but I couldn't read and run again. I'm so sorry you're going through this, but reading your thread it absolutely sounds like you're doing the right thing divorcing him.

It all sounds very psychologically abusive to me, and I would document every episode where he invades your privacy like he has done. Do you have a solicitor? I think you really need to speak to them about what you can do moving forward, as this seems to be at an awful stalemate which, reading your post, has been going on for years - you need to get the divorce finalised from what I can see.

I'm not an expert, so please speak to your solicitor, but from my understanding, whatever you do, do not move out and please try to stay strong - from what you have written he doesn't have a leg to stand on about being the so-called wronged party here.

P.S: Regarding his comment about couples in their 40's not having sex and sleeping in separate rooms is complete bollocks and definitely not the norm!!!

wasntlikethisinthegoodolddays · 04/06/2024 17:12

Well, addressing your thread title first, he is of course being ridiculous.

I'm 54 and DH is almost 52, and we are most definitely having sex, and do not have separate lives or bedrooms.

This seems to be the least of your problems though.

You need to see a Solicitor. Forget the divorce for a while. It's more pressing to get to the point where you're no longer living together.

Your choices are :

Make him leave (legally), and you buy him out of the house.

You leave with the kids, and he buys you out of the house.

Sell the house, split the proceeds and you both find somewhere new to live.

What equity do you have?

A solicitor can help you to achieve the steps you need to take, in order to move one of the above options along. You could apply for an occupation order, for example. He clearly isn't going to leave without you going down the legal route, so make an appointment to get the ball rolling.

category12 · 04/06/2024 17:24

Is there any way of speeding the divorce up? Maybe try getting a second opinion from another solicitor if yours isn't being very effective?

I'd also consider if maybe it's worth giving up the interest in the house in order to get you and your dds out of the situation? Obviously depends on your financial situation, but if you could manage to get a place, then maybe just for the sake of getting free of him.

CadyEastman · 04/06/2024 17:31

When you say he's not engaging with the Divorce, what stage are you at?

MinnieMountain · 04/06/2024 17:31

Of course people in their 40’s have sex. DH and I are 45 and have separate bedrooms due to my sleep issues, but we still have sex.

It’s normal to talk about puberty if and when the child wants.

Post in Legal for advice OP.

Pinkbonbon · 04/06/2024 18:16

You don't just lose claim on a house because you move out. Yes it might make things harder but in a divorce, assets are divided irregardless.

Besides, even if you did have to forefit the house...so what? You've spent 2 years more in misery with this clown over it.

Fuck the house.
So long as you can afford to go, go.
Pursue it in the divorce yes, but life is top short to stay a moment longer. Or to subject your kids to him. They deserve a safe home away from him they can escape to as much as possible.

I'd get myself a 1 bedroom flat. 2 beds for the kids and a pull out sofa in the lounge for me would do fine. Fuck fucking about any longer.
Plus, imagine the look on his face when he finds out you're freeeeeee!

Hell, a caravan even, who gives a shit, whatever gets you away from him.

StrawberryWater · 04/06/2024 18:24

Pack some stuff op and get yourself and your dds to your mothers house.

You don't lose financial interest in a house if you move out.

Pinkbonbon · 04/06/2024 18:30

If you can't afford to leave then see another solicitor for advice. And stop engaging him in conversations about sex. It's not relevant if you split up ages ago. Don't cook or clean or anything for him. Tell him your health is not his buisness as you are over. Never stay in a room with him.

Get a padlock for your bedroom door.

And save up to get out ASAP.
Be sure to check around for spy cameras as he seems the sort. Any sign of aggression, call the police.

The nightmares and fearfullness worry me. I really don't think you are safe there. Do you have family you can go live with with the girls whilst you figure out somewhere to live and pursue the divorce remotely?

The national stalking helpline might be of use to talk too as well. And women's aid.

chocolaterevs · 04/06/2024 18:40

Absolutely dreadful. Can you buy or rent elsewhere without the sale of the house? Agree with other poster that I'd get a 1 bed flat with sofa bed in lounge and get out. Is that possible?

CadyEastman · 04/06/2024 19:41

How are you tonight @Whatwasthatallabout?

TomatoSandwiches · 04/06/2024 19:47

Just with everything else you listed he didn't complete or left half arsed you will have to take this upon yourself and force this divorce through.
I'd start by finding a shit hot solicitor ( not the one that have you awful advice re: the house ) and get cracking.

TomatoSandwiches · 04/06/2024 19:48

Oh and of course people in their 40s still have sex, lots of 40+ women are having babies, multiple babies even and it isn't by immaculate conception!

CadyEastman · 04/06/2024 19:55

I agree with you Tomato. OP you need to ask locally who is a really good Divorce Lawyer and sack off the one you have.

Lillyroseflowers · 04/06/2024 20:01

My ex who i had children with i decided to leave because he had no go in him. He worked hard but he neglected the home amx garden and himself. Hed walk around with a toe hanging out his sock and a t shirt so ill fitted he looked scruffy.

He never made the garden nice. He barely made effort to cut the grass. He never painted or helped me make plans to imprive the house. He left mess everywhere. Beyond washing up and leaving the sides cluttered and pushing the toys to one side to hoover he never did any house work. I was drowning and when i went back to work he was working from home.

My reality was

A. I did not feel sexually attracted to him due to him not feeling like my team mate.

B. I knew if i didnt leave him id never have a nice clean home and my kids would grow up before i ever had the chance to enjoy the garden or having their friends round. I couldnt have anyone round and i was so overwhelmed.

Ive lived alone 6 months and im so much happier. I get to sit with my kids so much more now and enjoy the garden. I have friends over and i have a space to sit in and relax after work.

When i drop the kids off i can smell his house is stale and its so cluttered up. Im glad im out of it.

Upinthenightagain · 04/06/2024 20:02

I’d just change the locks

LondonFox · 04/06/2024 20:03

Absolutelly do not leave DDs with him as he is calculated and trying to establish himself as primary carer.
That way he can claim you abandoned your family for moving into your mothers home and ask court to stay in marital home as long as children are below 18 or at uni. Also, you would need to pay him child maitenance if he goes for above 50:50 which he surelly would.

Go and get specialised divorce solicitor and don't spare money. Your forst legal advice was good. See with that person or someone else how you can speed things up as peoope don't just stay married forever.

On practical side: don't discuss sex with him, wash his things, cook for him etc. Engage only if it is about children.

And tell him you opened Tinder.
Men do usually get quite pissy over it and don't want to live and be married with "a woman shagged by other blokes". And they 100% don't want their family and friends knowing about that. You don't need to act on it but make him think.

Octavia64 · 04/06/2024 20:13

I am assuming you are married.

You don't need to stay in the house to have a financial interest in it.

I moved out with my DD and my divorce went through. He bought me out.

He sounds like he is very defensive and does not want to admit anything is wrong. Personally I'd suggest getting records of all marital assets (house, pensions etc) and moving out.

Nonewclothes2024 · 04/06/2024 20:13

Upinthenightagain · 04/06/2024 20:02

I’d just change the locks

She can't if the house is jointly owned.

Southern68 · 04/06/2024 20:49

Record absolutely everything, and change your solicitor, your last one sounds useless.

Tell your stbxh that you want your privacy respected and that if he attempts to invade it again ie your meds your room inappropriate comments etc you'll pack his bags yourself. Are there any male mates who could have a quiet word with him, he might just listen to them

Seaoftroubles · 04/06/2024 21:50

Definitely change your solicitor, your current one doesn't sound proactive or supportive.
You could also contact Citizens Advice for clarification of your rights. He sounds awful, definitely do not leave your children with him. Is there room for you and the kids at your Mum's by any chance?

OriginalUsername2 · 04/06/2024 22:24

He doesn’t actually get to make any of these rules. It sounds like a battle of wills. You need to battle harder until he’s gone. Be open to everyone that you’ve asked him to leave and he’s refusing to go. You need to put the pressure on him. Start looking for a place to go. At some point he’ll have to accept this is really happening.

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