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Confused about feelings for Ex DH

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Rubybonbon · 01/06/2024 22:58

I separated from ex DH around 8 months ago. We've tried to keep things amicable for our dc (both teens). I pushed for the separation after years of marital problems. We had a lot of different life stressors outside of our relationship which also added to it. For the last few years I would say that DH had totally checked out of the marriage and was angry, passive aggressive, cold and contemptuous towards me. He was also anxious and depressed. He could however be nice at times, and always has been a loving father to the dc.

Since we've separated, I've felt much happier and like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders. The dc seem ok with the separation (DH lives locally and they still see him a lot). It feels so nice to have my own space. One of the recurrent arguments between ex DH and I was about housework - he never did any. As far as I know, he barely does any housework in the house he's living in now, and it's very messy and dirty.

I've started seeing another guy - I actually met him a year ago, and we started off as just friends, but a few months ago went on a proper date and realised we liked each other! I feel really attracted to him, and he feels the same. It's been fairly casual so far as I want to take things slowly.

Ex dh and I had to take our dd out somewhere a few days ago, which involved us dropping her off then spending a few hours in a cafe while we waited for her to finish the activity. It was the first time ex DH and I had had a chance to really talk since our separation. We were both honest and open and both apologised to each other about how we been, especially in the latter years of our marriage. He apologised for being angry, and I apologised as I feel that I didn't listen to him enough and felt overwhelmed by his mental health struggles. We both said that even if we leave the area we are in, we would always want to live near each other as that would be good for the dc.

We ended up going on a walk, chatting about quite deep topics and also having a laugh. It felt like old times before things went wrong in our marriage! At the end of the day we said goodbye, looked at each other, and I felt it was almost a bit awkward, and the day had stirred up feelings for us both. I know that I will always care for him, but I don't know if I still love him or if I was just feeling nostalgia.

Now I feel really confused. The new guy I am seeing is really nice, but obviously it's early days with him. He's never been married or had dc, so his mindset is quite different. Although in one way I had been thinking that it was positive, as there wouldn't be the complication of exes or step children. He is quite a go getter and we have simulating conversations. My ex on the other hand has described himself as "plodding", but is dependable, loyal and kind, although has always struggled with his mental health.

I just feel really torn. I really got the feeling that my ex would be willing to give things another go with us. I knew I still cared very much for him, I thought it was in a kind of brotherly way, but now I just feel confused. I know the dc would be so happy if we were together again. It would make things so much easier in a way to still be all together as a family unit. But I just don't know if I could ever live with him again, and also I feel so bruised by how angry he was for years. It's like I feel we get on better when we are out of the house and can just relax and talk, but as soon as you add in living together, work and responsibilities, I can see that things might go downhill again.

I don't know what I'm asking really, maybe if anyone else had a similar situation with their ex and can relate? Or any thoughts from anyone else would be welcome too!

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QueensOfTheVolksAge · 01/06/2024 23:07

Don't do it. Not without plenty of joint and separate counselling first. Your children don't deserve that confusion and back-and-forth.

Review if the man you're seeing is right for you, or if you subconsciously realise he isn't, (or you're just not fully ready to date anyone yet) so you're defaulting back to the comfort of a nice nostalgic time with your ex, who you know better?

If your husband knows about the new guy, he might be trying to manipulate you to recall the "good old days"... His life would certainly be easier if he slotted back in at your house, yes...? Hmm.

QueensOfTheVolksAge · 01/06/2024 23:10

Also, I get on better with my ex too since he left. It's 100% because I don't have to deal with the resentment of actually being with him. Keep in mind how it all creeps up on you, his lack of effort, mess everywhere or whatever his issues where.. how your children should never grow up exposed to an angry stressed man who looms over everything spoiling it with his miserable attitude.

Maybe take a step back from being so friendly with him, get some boundaries in place, and heal yourself first and foremost.

Rubybonbon · 01/06/2024 23:15

@QueensOfTheVolksAge thanks. Yes, I wouldn't rush into anything without a huge amount of talking and counselling. We actually did have marriage counselling before we split up and that didn't go particularly well, but we both seem to be in different head spaces now. I definitely do not want to confuse or upset the dc and wouldn't make any rash moves.

Yes I do think my ex's life would be easier if we were back together - I know he feels lonely and has said he doesn't know if he wants the hassle of a new relationship as he just wants a "simple life". We are both grieving the loss of the family unit, but I know it's still early days for us both really.

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Rubybonbon · 01/06/2024 23:19

@QueensOfTheVolksAge oh that's really interesting to hear you get on better with your ex too since he moved out. I do think that's exactly it, not having to deal with the issues and resentment that come from living with someone if you're not compatible in that way.

I do need to get some boundaries in place. I think I am still healing and miss things about being together, so that may be why I feel a pull towards him when he's being nice to me.

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QueensOfTheVolksAge · 01/06/2024 23:25

@Rubybonbon yeah it's a difficult one, because of course it's great to get on well... And definitely better for the kids if that is the case! But it also blurs the lines between the two of you. It's totally natural to miss the good bits, I often think I've lost "my person" and now it's only me who puts me first, which can be hard to cope with .

How would you feel if he got with someone else? Or if you didn't see each other for a while except for kid related stuff/drop offs etc? To let you have some headspace.

DuckEggy · 01/06/2024 23:29

Can you be together but have your own houses? I'm sure others have done this.

Onedaystronger · 02/06/2024 00:06

So many angles to take on this OP. I split up with my son's father 14 years ago (son is 17). I also split up with my husband a year ago (his choice, bolt from blue, was devastated for some time).

I wanted to share with you that for me there is now a distinct difference between my feelings for son's dad and ExH. I feel closer to son's dad, I care about him more and I have some sort of bond with him. This isn't related to who has been the biggest twat, or the fact that I've more recently split from ExH. In my case it's because we share our son together, and it means I can't completely separate myself from him or feel the same indifference towards him as I do towards EXH.

I don't have any intention of us ever getting back together but I've had to come to terms with the fact that I'm not able to get to the level of
indifference or complete separation that I have with ExH. Everyone is different but for me the unconditional and powerful love I have my son means I care about his dad. He has had a few relationships over the years and none of them have upset me which I guess was a telling sign that I don't want us to be a couple and have moved on.

Sorry I have waffled on- what I am attempting to explain is how complicated it can be to separate oneself from a coparent, and that because you share children you may always have things in common, and feel some sort of bond. That's not the same as having the right feelings to make a marriage or committed relationship work.

FiveZoo · 02/06/2024 00:18

*@QueensOfTheVolksAge thanks. Yes, I
wouldn't rush into anything without a huge amount of talking and
counselling. We actually did have marriage counselling before we split
up and that didn't go particularly well, but we both seem to be in
different head spaces now. I definitely do not want to confuse or upset
the dc and wouldn't make any rash moves. *

I doubt marriage councelling would have worked seeing as you had already met the man you were going to go out with.

*Does your husband know you are dating, it's probably best if you tell him, then he can move on properly, don't keep him dangling with false hope.
*

Ciphermind · 02/06/2024 00:23

ill bite, saw my ex the other week in the supermarket, yes shes got 2 dc, i knew she always wanted them and we were together for 2 years when we split,

fast forward to the other week 20 years later and honestly it was almost like time had not advanced, im not sure if she had any emotions about me after our chat but ive not chatted since as to be honest shes married and kids, and i dont want to split any of that up.

edit, that said i do wish id done things differently back in the past, and if she was single then its upto her as to what happens.

MariaLuna · 02/06/2024 00:29

As far as I know, he barely does any housework in the house he's living in now, and it's very messy and dirty.

Read that back over and over.

K8ate · 02/06/2024 01:54

Does your ex dh know you’ve been having sex with someone else?
Would he be able to accept that?

Barleysugar86 · 02/06/2024 02:05

I think it's common to feel this when the split is in an amicable place. My ex had some absolutely foul mood swings etc. and could make me very miserable but obviously when he was in a good mood I loved who he could be as well. Breaking up was absolutely right and I wouldn't want to be together again but when we run into each other and catch up I do feel a bit of affectionation/ fondness for him still. If you are lucky this could be a friendship down the line, but the problems in the relationship were real and hurtful and I don't think you can really go back- I don't think any change you could implement would be a long term one.

category12 · 02/06/2024 06:42

I'm not sure why you think getting back together might work?

So you got along and hashed out some old problems - but how does that translate into actual change? It's just talk and nostalgia. What has actually changed other than having a bit of time and space?

The reasons you broke up are still there, point in case, his home being filthy.

Apologies don't mean he still wouldn't revert to being the angry man if you were back together day to day. Patterns in relationships are really hard to break.

Maybe the relationship you're in now isn't the one for you, but I think contemplating getting back with your ex is hasty.

Rubybonbon · 02/06/2024 08:36

QueensOfTheVolksAge · 01/06/2024 23:25

@Rubybonbon yeah it's a difficult one, because of course it's great to get on well... And definitely better for the kids if that is the case! But it also blurs the lines between the two of you. It's totally natural to miss the good bits, I often think I've lost "my person" and now it's only me who puts me first, which can be hard to cope with .

How would you feel if he got with someone else? Or if you didn't see each other for a while except for kid related stuff/drop offs etc? To let you have some headspace.

Yes, that's how I feel as well, that I don't have anyone in my corner so to speak, and it's only me who is there for me! It was difficult to imagine this feeling whilst I was married.

If ex DH got with someone else, I think I would have mixed feelings. I would probably feel sad but I guess at least it would help things to move on.

And I think not seeing him so much would be a good idea. If I'm being honest, one part of me likes seeing him as I think we do know each other so well and he feels like family, and to be honest when I'm feeling lonely it's reassuring to see him and have a chat. We also hug each other goodbye etc which again probably isn't a good idea. I just feel that as you say, the lines are blurred between us.

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Rubybonbon · 02/06/2024 08:50

@Onedaystronger your post has been very helpful - thanks so much!

I'm very sorry to hear about the split from your husband - that must have been so hard if it was a bolt from the blue.

That's interesting to hear about the difference in your feelings for your son's dad and your ex H. I really get what you mean about feeling that there is a deep bond there with your son's dad and that you will never get to the same level of complete separation as with someone you didn't have dc with. It's probably like some kind of primal instinct in us that they are still part of our family or our "tribe".

I like what you said as well about just because you share children, have things in common and feel a bond with someone, doesn't mean that there are necessarily the right ingredients there for a relationship with them.

I have felt so confused about this as it feels to me that in our society you are either in a relationship together with someone (who you love), or separated (and don't love them). There seems to be no model for being separated from them but still loving them (knowing that the stereotypical relationship set up with them would not work).

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Rubybonbon · 02/06/2024 08:55

FiveZoo · 02/06/2024 00:18

*@QueensOfTheVolksAge thanks. Yes, I
wouldn't rush into anything without a huge amount of talking and
counselling. We actually did have marriage counselling before we split
up and that didn't go particularly well, but we both seem to be in
different head spaces now. I definitely do not want to confuse or upset
the dc and wouldn't make any rash moves. *

I doubt marriage councelling would have worked seeing as you had already met the man you were going to go out with.

*Does your husband know you are dating, it's probably best if you tell him, then he can move on properly, don't keep him dangling with false hope.
*

@FiveZoo "I doubt marriage councelling would have worked seeing as you had already met the man you were going to go out with."

We had marriage counselling a couple of years ago, before I met the other guy.

"Does your husband know you are dating, it's probably best if you tell him, then he can move on properly, don't keep him dangling with false hope."

Yes my ex DH does know I've met someone. He doesn't want to know any details about it, but he does know. I get the impression my ex probably feels similar to me, mixed feelings. I certainly don't want to mess anyone around which is why I have been open about everything with ex DH and the other guy, and am taking it slowly with the other guy.

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CoManagerOfTheShitpile · 02/06/2024 08:56

If you're ever unsure about how you would feel being in a relationship and living with your DH again, just pop into his new house for a cup of tea, and nip to the loo while you're there.

I expect the grime will sober you up.

Rubybonbon · 02/06/2024 08:58

@Ciphermind wow, 20 years later and you felt like time had not passed! It just shows that if we really loved/cared about someone sometimes the feelings may always be there in some way.

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gleefulstar · 02/06/2024 09:00

I recently split with my DP. Lots of 'feel good' phrases keep coming up on my TikTok. The one that stood out was this:

Nostalgia is a dirty rotten liar.

Rubybonbon · 02/06/2024 09:01

@K8ate I haven't actually had sex with the new guy. I somehow don't feel ready for it yet, even though I do really like him. I am realising that I probably need time to clarify my feelings about my ex DH first before I move on with this other guy.

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Rubybonbon · 02/06/2024 09:05

Barleysugar86 · 02/06/2024 02:05

I think it's common to feel this when the split is in an amicable place. My ex had some absolutely foul mood swings etc. and could make me very miserable but obviously when he was in a good mood I loved who he could be as well. Breaking up was absolutely right and I wouldn't want to be together again but when we run into each other and catch up I do feel a bit of affectionation/ fondness for him still. If you are lucky this could be a friendship down the line, but the problems in the relationship were real and hurtful and I don't think you can really go back- I don't think any change you could implement would be a long term one.

Edited

@Barleysugar86 "the problems in the relationship were real and hurtful and I don't think you can really go back- I don't think any change you could implement would be a long term one."

This resonated with me. Yes all the problems that we had in our relationship would still be there. The problems were mainly due to an incompatibility of our personalities in how we wanted to live life - and that's not going to change for either of us!

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Rubybonbon · 02/06/2024 09:12

@CoManagerOfTheShitpile 🤣 haha yes exactly! When I've been there recently I've actually had to hold my nose as the smell is awful (he's got pets and as he doesn't vacuum or clean the smell is more obvious). I am 100% sure that I could never live with him again!

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Rubybonbon · 02/06/2024 09:13

@gleefulstar "Nostalgia is a dirty rotten liar."

I need to keep remembering that!

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Snowfalling · 02/06/2024 09:18

MariaLuna · 02/06/2024 00:29

As far as I know, he barely does any housework in the house he's living in now, and it's very messy and dirty.

Read that back over and over.

This basically. can you forgive him for all the years of leaving everything to you and treating you like a housekeeper/maid?

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