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does this scream of panic and guilt or have I lost the plot

40 replies

tignus · 31/05/2024 00:15

been with my husband 40 years, first and only BF.
Been becoming increasingly concerned for various reasons which would take too long to tell you, that something occurred in 2015 with 27 year old woman when he was 48.
I have been looking at her recent flirting with him and I felt it’s mutual. There’s a vibe. He has admitted recently that he knows she fancies him and he ‘did’ fancy her ‘a bit’ back in 2015 when their paths crossed.
I feel like I’m in a threesome. She is now married to his best mate.
Best mate appears oblivious to her flirting and continues contact with my husband as normal.
My husband likes many of her instagram photos on her photgrapher husband’s page. Sometimes with more than one account. I did check those accounts but couldn’t find any messaging.
I don’t want to make this long but basically I have been digging about her and him for a while, just letting him know I suspect.

He’s been being super nice since christmas when I accused him of being a liar and a cheat (for various reasons). It did not get resolved due to family coming to stay.

The other day I just came out with it because I can’t stop the thoughts, now they’re there. It’s so upsetting. He looked so handsome back then I was looking at photos of him.
I said ‘are you sure nothing was going on with you and …. back in 2015?'

I was called nuts, crazy, his eyes were blazing, he said why don’t you like her I thought you liked her.

I left it there as he is intimidating.

He left it about 10 mins then came into another room I was in, and shut the door. He likes doing that. So you can’t walk off.

He said that our eldest son doesn’t have his teeth or the same legs as him and was it (his mate’s) son? I said well that’s not possible is it I’ve never been with anyone else. He’s obviously your son. We have 4 children TOGETHER.

Then he said he’d had genital warts 4 years ago where had I been? I said well that’s not possible either is it, just no. You’re the only person I’ve been with. He did cheat on me in uni because as he put it recently he did regret it but I was ’needy’ and he picked them up then. I found this out in a row when I was 36 with 4 kids.

He rubbished my own family, uses them as a weapon to devalue me. Said I trapped him, that we all do this to the men.

Then he said he was going out mountain biking and not to worry he would not be going to …. house to fuck her. He said I should call round to ask her and what an idiot I would look.

and stormed off.

High stakes, It’s his best friend, who clearly doesn’t know and doesn’t appear to notice the flirting. Would she lie too, she’d have been showing her face at our house for 9 years and we went to their wedding? Is she just looking for attention?

Have I lost the plot?
Is he projecting?

OP posts:
Bellevilles · 31/05/2024 15:05

No one can tell you whether he has been unfaithful.

He sounds horrible and that alone is a reason to end it.

AutumnFroglets · 31/05/2024 15:05

I’ve been hoping to fix someone who is too broken to fix.

They have to acknowledge they need fixing.
They have to want to be fixed.
You have to have the knowledge on how to fix them.
You need to have the actual tools to fix them.

I don't think any of those four statements are in your relationship. Based on that what do you want to do? Accept this is your life until you die. Or leave and be happier?

EDIT - I get it OP, it's scary out there. I'm finally leaving my abusive relationship after being with stbxh after 41 years. I couldn't face living with him for another 30 until I died which is giving me the strength to leave.

Naran · 31/05/2024 15:07

I'm assuming your kids are grown up, given you've been with him 40 years. So the main consideration is you.

I think he sounds guilty as fuck. Calling you nuts, getting angry etc. If I was accused of cheating, I would feel upset and worried and would offer every bit of possible evidence to exonerate myself, to reassure H and to then wonder what made him think I was cheating.

Consider whether your life would be better away from him. He is nasty, deceitful, controlling and spiteful.

If he says your kids aren't his again, tell him to get everyone a 23 and me kit for Christmas. You can get them cheaply if you buy 6 of them and it'll prove he's their dad (unfortunately).

He wants to behave like a spoilt selfish cad - let him. Just don't be there as part of it.

Mischance · 31/05/2024 15:15

I left it there as he is intimidating.

That says it all really.

Why are you with this man? Why are your chidlren allowed to witness this sort of behaviour? What is it doing to them?

tignus · 31/05/2024 18:47

Mischance · 31/05/2024 15:15

I left it there as he is intimidating.

That says it all really.

Why are you with this man? Why are your chidlren allowed to witness this sort of behaviour? What is it doing to them?

they’ve all left, they’re all in tact, all doing very well with lovely partners, except for my eldest daughter. She’s single.
Clashes massively with her dad.
She can see straight through him.

OP posts:
BlastedPimples · 01/06/2024 08:38

His aggressive reaction is very telling.

As is accusing you of the same thing re the paternity of your son.

Nasty piece of work, isn't he?

justasking111 · 01/06/2024 08:43

BlastedPimples · 01/06/2024 08:38

His aggressive reaction is very telling.

As is accusing you of the same thing re the paternity of your son.

Nasty piece of work, isn't he?

He really is. Insinuating that she's been unfaithful.

candycane222 · 01/06/2024 08:45

You cannot possibly fix him. No-one can fix another person. They can support another person to fix themselves, it that person really really really wants to be fixed.

But it doesn't sound like your dick of a husband has the slightest interest in being anything other than an abusive bully.

Bumblebeeinatree · 01/06/2024 09:21

I guess if he did cheat he's not the man you thought and all the suspicions are justified and you might want to leave him. On the other hand if he didn't cheat, just met a woman he found somewhat attractive, who later married his best friend, which should make her totally off limits (even apart from him being married). In which case he would see it as you nagging him mercilessly about something he didn't do, so he retaliates by suggesting you've cheated. Currently flirting, I would imagine he's flattered if she seems interested in him as a much younger woman, maybe she's just a 'friendly' sort of person, her husband doesn't seem to find it anything out of the ordinary about her behaviour.

Aposterhasnoname · 01/06/2024 09:24

longdistanceclaraclara · 31/05/2024 00:24

How have you been with him 40 years when he was 48 in 2015?

Because he’s 57 now, so 17 when they met.

Treacletoots · 01/06/2024 09:30

Oh OP. You're so far into the woods you can't see the trees.

The moment you tell this nasty little man to leave, your life will improve immeasurably. Take it from someone who has been there and escaped the other side.

You can't fix somebody if they don't actually care about how they treat you. He clearly doesn't respect you and you can't do anything about that except remove them from your life.

Get your ducks in a row and kick him out. It's only going to get worse and you will be much happier single than with a massive turd like this weighing you down. Just think about life without him for a moment. Really think. No abuse, no cheating, no DARVO, no intimidation. Sounds lovely doesn't it.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 01/06/2024 09:39

You would have a claim on his pension.

tignus · 01/06/2024 16:34

Massive row today and yes DARVO has been implemented.

It’s incredible.

OP posts:
Candleabra · 01/06/2024 16:38

Was going to say classic DARVO. Attack as a form of defence to shut you down.
Interesting the things he’s chosen to accuse you of. Holding a mirror up to his behaviour perhaps?

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