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Help regarding relocation with DS from abusive ex

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MetalButterflies · 29/05/2024 20:03

Hi all, I'm new to this so please bear with me. I could really use some advice (and kindness alongside it).
To cut a long story short, my ex partner and I split last year due to physical and emotional abuse on his side. We have a 3yo DS who resides with me but spent 2 nights with his dad. Anywho, the abuse continued despite not living together and he began to threaten me if I did not answer the phone of an evening when DS was asleep, or tell him what I was doing. The threats got so bad I went to the police last week and told them everything, historic and current. He was arrested and is currently on bail pending investigations (I have submitted concrete evidence of photos and screenshot of abuse) with conditions not to contact me for 3 months - due to this he is currently not having contact with DS - DS has not asked for his dad once. Ex and DS did have an okay relationship, however DS was starting to notice abuse and experiencing control from ex also, saying to me regularly 'I don't like Daddy, daddy scares me, Daddy's mean to me'. Ex would also try to facetime son 3 x a day on my days and son didn't want to, to which ex would scream down phone. Ex is also not a good role model to son, has a community order for assault, is racist in front of son and tells son to be racist to other children, push children over etc, extremely volatile and aggressive if son does not comply with basic tasks (as 3yos tend not to!). I tried everything i could to maintain civility, doing drop off and pick ups etc, being flexible but ex would insult me to son, scream at me in front of him, be physical to me in front of him, and threaten to take him and never let me see him (also threatened to tell people i 'touch' our son if i tried to take him, which still makes me feel sick to think about)
To paint a picture, ex has a superiority complex, thinks he is above the law, lives in a tiny studio room that son is getting too big for, smokes cannabis and drinks too much alcohol and has no friends or family (not slagging him off, just painting factual picture).

The main reason I am writing is because I want to, and have always wanted to relocate to the countryside (about 6ish hours away from ex, I won't say where for a bit more anonymity), I have family there who would support me wholeheartedly (I have no one where I currently am) and my son loves it there. I also have a job interview for in the area in a couple of weeks.
My concern is we have no order in place so both have PR. I have been told conflicting information; the DV service I'm under, CAB and the police have all said to relocate, start a new life and let ex chase for child arrangement. However, solicitors are a bit more hesitant saying that ex could have an order issued to 'drag' son back.

I just wondered what anyone would do in this situation, f* it and move and let him chase, or go down the legal route first and risk not being able to move? Ex has no money so wouldn't be able/would take time seeking legal advice.
My little boy and I have been through so much and I just want to give him the best life (plus start to enjoy life myself and watching him grow up).

If you have got this far, thank you.
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OP posts:
category12 · 30/05/2024 05:36

SAR is a subject access request - you can apply for whichever agencies to show you all the information they hold on you.

MetalButterflies · 30/05/2024 10:27

Thank you all for your kind kind words. Hopefully this interview goes well, if so should be moving there within 6 weeks ish.

I'm just scared I'll be looking over my shoulder for the rest of my life. I just want to enjoy life amd watch my little boy grow up without any fear.

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QueensOfTheVolksAge · 30/05/2024 11:01

Move as far away as you can. Keep it to yourself. Keep records of EVERYTHING involving him, every single interaction, til your child is 18 at least. Get your child in a nursery linked to a school at the place you move to, straight away.

Right now, while he's not allowed contact is the time to do it,because you're not breaking any pre-agreed contact agreement (because he's currently not allowed to see your child), and there are no court orders currently in place to stop you leaving.

But I cannot stress this enough- do it now. Move right now, as far as you can. Waiting will make it harder as he may be able to stop you, or try to. Your child doesn't need this waster in his life. Unfortunately you will have to look over your shoulder for the rest of your child's childhood, but the distance will hopefully make it easier to avoid the outright abuse to you both.

category12 · 30/05/2024 12:47

MetalButterflies · 30/05/2024 10:27

Thank you all for your kind kind words. Hopefully this interview goes well, if so should be moving there within 6 weeks ish.

I'm just scared I'll be looking over my shoulder for the rest of my life. I just want to enjoy life amd watch my little boy grow up without any fear.

Good luck with the interview 🍀

I think far better to run now and get the distance.

He's far more likely to be able to stop you going than he is to be able to bring you back.

MetalButterflies · 30/05/2024 12:57

QueensOfTheVolksAge · 30/05/2024 11:01

Move as far away as you can. Keep it to yourself. Keep records of EVERYTHING involving him, every single interaction, til your child is 18 at least. Get your child in a nursery linked to a school at the place you move to, straight away.

Right now, while he's not allowed contact is the time to do it,because you're not breaking any pre-agreed contact agreement (because he's currently not allowed to see your child), and there are no court orders currently in place to stop you leaving.

But I cannot stress this enough- do it now. Move right now, as far as you can. Waiting will make it harder as he may be able to stop you, or try to. Your child doesn't need this waster in his life. Unfortunately you will have to look over your shoulder for the rest of your child's childhood, but the distance will hopefully make it easier to avoid the outright abuse to you both.

Thank you.
Just want to clarify that there's nothing stopping him legally with contact, he's not allowed to contact me whilst on bail but as son is with me he isn't able to

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Hellodarknessmyfriend · 30/05/2024 16:43

I guess if he applies to court for contact he will just have to somehow work his way around it? Family Courts are very keen for both parents to see their child (even abusive ones, unfortunately) 😞

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